Lost TV show (Season 6) -- includes spoilers on show nights

[Unspeaked]

Dude, they never were going to answer those questions. Do you think anyone expected someone to face the camera and say, "Ok, the light is god. He lives on the island but the devil lives under him in the cave and get out and blah blah." We're lucky they actually showed us ANYTHING. As you pointed out, they dead ended us for years with BS that they can't/won't answer. Its like people defending Lucas and his bs that he knew exactly how the 6 Star Wars films were going to play out from day one. No he didn't and neither did the clowns writing lost. They left so much unanswered... so so many questions... so very tired...... what was my point? Oh yeah, STAY OUT OF MY BOOZE!

Those questions were never going to be answered but as Azmontana correctly points out:

The problem with the show is that there was no end game in mind, the end game was an after thought and because of that all the discrepancies built up and nothing was really answered!

When they had an end game in mind they should have simplified it instead of complicating matters with more bull****!!

So those questions should never have been asked in the first place. After building up three years of mythology and announcing an end date (down to the episode) what the writers should have done is start explaining some of the stuff they introduced on the island. Three or even two seasons would have been fine to tie up that stuff. Instead, Dharma and The Others (the main plot points until then) were cast away in favor of Jacob and we're left with Season 6.

The whole reason they announced an end date was because ratings were slipping. Viewers were tired of the unanswered questions and the television powers that be thought if they gave the fans a date to look forward to, they'd rightfully assume questions would be answered along the way and we'd have a satisfying finale. So after dipping in Season 3 or 4, ratings went up the past couple of seasons. But they played us for fools and didn't answer hardly anything, just introducing new mythology and new questions that simply weren't needed. I reckon if fans knew this was how it was going to end, so many would have dropped off along the way that it would have been cancelled before Season 6 was allowed. Instead, their bet on an end-date keeping eyes glued worked, and now we've got half of fandom happy and the other half pissed.

 

[Azmontana]

You think the ending was awesome because it left room for movies? I'm the opposite. Take the Sopranos. I believe they ended like that because they want to leave it open for movies, too. But **** them. It was a tv show. Finish it on tv. You aint getting any more of my money with a lame movie that wont answer everything because they want more of my money for a sequel. Take the xfiles, they didn't even try to answer questions in the second movie, just made a stand-alone crime drama. They can go to hell!

Off topic but there won't be anything in addition to the Sopranos, Tony gets killed in the end. You don't see it but the evidence is all there plus the creator confirmed it in an interview.

 

[tigres]

and now we've got half of fandom happy and the other half pissed.

My 13 year old son is pissed. He and I watched religiously and he was very much in tune to what was going on/when/how/ and whom. But, this last episode left him for a loop. I have been trying to explain the purgatory (waiting room if you will) mindset to him- he's not biting.

We used to discuss this show frequently, and now I don't bring the finale up, as it just leads him to challenge my explanations more.

I feel bad for the little guy.

 

[aloofman]

It's easy to be upset about the lack of answers because they didn't give us many, but if the writers had left out all the "fluff" and only kept the relevant stuff in, then the ending would have been predictable because the viewers never would have been thrown off course along the way. The mysteries and confusion are what kept us watching. And if it had been simple enough that the final episode could have explained everything, then we wouldn't have liked it either.

The only way all the weird science, magic, ghosts, etc. could have been wrapped up nicely is if it had all turned out to be someone's crazy dream. If they had ended with that, then there would be rioting in the streets.

 

[squeeks]

I think they should make a spin-off with Hurley and Ben

 

[leekohler]

now we've got half of fandom happy and the other half pissed.

That would have happened anyway. Honestly, I cannot believe all the fuss. You guys really thought they were going to sit there and answer all your questions one by one?

Really? Come on.

 

[TuffLuffJimmy]

That would have happened anyway. Honestly, I cannot believe all the fuss. You guys really thought they were going to sit there and answer all your questions one by one?

Really? Come on.

I don't think you've paid much attention to my reasoning for not liking the finale (although I understand why). It's not that I wanted every question answered, but I wanted a lot of the details and plot devices they gave to have meaning. With the finale it turned out that many details the writers made seem important really meant nothing. I was also very disappointed with the alternate reality story line, as it turns out it was completely meaningless. That means half of the entire last season was just filler.

 

[Don't panic]

i liked "the end". it was a great episode. It was also a great season ending.
however, it was a terrible series ending.

a couple of issues i have is that the entire series was embedded in scientific 'plausability' of sorts (however bizarre and twisted) and then they moved to a complete supernatural explanation.

the endings wraps up the character very nicely, but it doesn't wrap up the story at all. i think this reflects the nature of televison, where the stories are written on the go. It also put o rest the whole idea that the show was carefully planned from the get go (which i believed until last week). It wasn't. they had a general idea of the direction and of the ending (possibly with the sideworld already in mind), but the actual specifics of the show (the monster, the hatch, the others, special walt, dharma, the temple, jacob, MIB, time travel) was just added as they went along.

All the questions were not answered because they were not answerable in an organic fashion, as there never was an underlying coherent 'truth' to the story.

I was relishing the idea of re-watching the show from the beginning to 'get' all the little things, but now i am thinking that it might be a bad idea, as there are not too many "little things" to actually get.
I am afraid I had given the authors credit beyond the technically possible for a TV show: the luxury, at the end of writing book, to go back and edit all the chapters to 'make it work' and give it internal consistency.

i am curious if we will ever gat a book or a 'making of' documentary that chronicles the story behind creating the show.

 

[Tilpots]

There's been some buzz about making a cop show with Sawyer and Miles.

The Purgatory Police!

 

[squeeks]

was there ever an explination of why smokie didnt like sonic fences?

 

[Unspeaked]

That would have happened anyway. Honestly, I cannot believe all the fuss. You guys really thought they were going to sit there and answer all your questions one by one?

Really? Come on.

To that, I think this:

I don't think you've paid much attention to my reasoning for not liking the finale (although I understand why). It's not that I wanted every question answered, but I wanted a lot of the details and plot devices they gave to have meaning. With the finale it turned out that many details the writers made seem important really meant nothing. I was also very disappointed with the alternate reality story line, as it turns out it was completely meaningless. That means half of the entire last season was just filler.

And this:

i liked "the end". it was a great episode. It was also a great season ending.
however, it was a terrible series ending.

Sum things up perfectly.

And I never said I wanted the finale to be Jacob sitting on a stool explaining the island away. As I said in my post (which you seem to have read with as much brevity as you accuse some of us of watching the show) I said they could have had seasons to explain things had they not gone off on a black/white, Jacob/MIB, good/evil tangent. That was pretty much the entirety of Season 5 and 6. Plenty of time to spin a nice story that ties up some loose ends and keep the viewers entertained.

 

[mkrishnan]

To that, I think this:

*Shrug*... I think the ending was perfect. Ultimately, I think the fact that a lot of loose ends were not tied up was a good choice in favor of what they did emphasize -- the people and their relationships. Lost was always great characters with a really great relationship story. Ultimately, those are the things that matter, and I think the way it ended fit perfectly. When dying, I look back on life, I want to remember the people I loved and the ones who loved me, not what the "numbers" were or any of the other stuff.

I understand that they could not at this point create one ending that pleased everyone, but I certainly got what I wanted.

 

[leekohler]

To that, I think this:



And this:



Sum things up perfectly.

And I never said I wanted the finale to be Jacob sitting on a stool explaining the island away. As I said in my post (which you seem to have read with as much brevity as you accuse some of us of watching the show) I said they could have had seasons to explain things had they not gone off on a black/white, Jacob/MIB, good/evil tangent. That was pretty much the entirety of Season 5 and 6. Plenty of time to spin a nice story that ties up some loose ends and keep the viewers entertained.

Exactly, you expected answers. Those of us who thought it was great have already explained why the "details" were necessary. They were not meaningless filler. But you can choose to see it that way if you like.

*Shrug*... I think the ending was perfect. Ultimately, I think the fact that a lot of loose ends were not tied up was a good choice in favor of what they did emphasize -- the people and their relationships. Lost was always great characters with a really great relationship story. Ultimately, those are the things that matter, and I think the way it ended fit perfectly. When dying, I look back on life, I want to remember the people I loved and the ones who loved me, not what the "numbers" were or any of the other stuff.

I understand that they could not at this point create one ending that pleased everyone, but I certainly got what I wanted.

Yep- none of us will have the answers to everything by the time we die. And a lot of life makes no sense at all. But if we only get hung up on the details, we miss the bigger picture. And I certainly got what I wanted from it too.

 

[obeygiant]

Maybe they'll follow M*A*S*H and create "After LOST" lol

hell, i'd watch that.

 

[TuffLuffJimmy]

I can't figure out how to make myself more clear, but mkrishnan and lee seem to have dificulty understanding what we're trying to say. Yes, some answerd to a few burning questions would be nice, but that isn't my problem with how the show ended (nor have I been saying that).

I was looking for a clever way to tie things together in the end, instead we got a very lame church scene that signified half of the last season's plot was meaningless. I was looking for some purpose for many red herrings that seemed to be important instead they were glossed over (blatantly ignored in addition to being left unanswered). This just makes me feel that much of the show was filler instead of actually driving the plot.

And Lee, Lost is a television show, not some deep parallel to life. There is no island and there is no awkwardly weaved parallel universe that turns out to be the afterlife. It's just a television series.

 

[killerrobot]

And Lee, Lost is a television show, not some deep parallel to life. There is no island and there is no awkwardly weaved parallel universe that turns out to be the afterlife. It's just a television series.

Wait - are we all dead because we watched LOST. We were there in the church with them right? That would've blown my mind had Christian turned and talked to the camera (us) telling us what he told Jack.
That would have been a series finale worth seeing.

 

[leekohler]

Gee, thanks for pointing out that Lost is just a TV show.

That's what I've been saying all along. Everyone else acts like they've been stabbed with a thousand knives because they didn't like the ending. "I wasted six years of my life"...etc. Ridiculous. Get over it.

 

[Surely]

I know that everyone is wondering, so I thought I'd mention that I'm still satisfied with the ending.

 

[leekohler]

I know that everyone is wondering, so I thought I'd mention that I'm still satisfied with the ending.

Me too.

 

[TuffLuffJimmy]

I guess I was just looking for a reason for certain plot devices instead of them being arbitrary.

I guess I'm in the minority that expects good story telling.

 

[NoSmokingBandit]

Certain things still piss me off, like how the writers made it seem like Walt and Aaron were going to be really important and influential but in the end neither of them meant anything at all. Stuff like that bothers me because it feel like the writers just gave up on half of what happened in the first 5 seasons and simply ended the season 6 arc instead of the 1-6 arc.

 

[Lava Lamp Freak]

Gee, thanks for pointing out that Lost is just a TV show.

That's what I've been saying all along. Everyone else acts like they've been stabbed with a thousand knives because they didn't like the ending. "I wasted six years of my life"...etc. Ridiculous. Get over it.

If it was a 2 hour movie, I would react completely different than a TV series I've invested 100+ hours in over a 6 year period. Alas, life goes on. Doesn't change the fact that the show hasn't been resolved, and since it is over, it never will be.

And as far as the reactions of those of us who aren't happy: you appear be different, but there are quite a few people in the world, including myself, who actually get into books and movies, and feel emotion and connections to the characters through them. Having a poorly resolved ending feels like a kick in the ass.

I guess I was just looking for a reason for certain plot devices instead of them being arbitrary.

I guess I'm in the minority that expects good story telling.

Well, I for one am with you. The church scene invalidated everything that happened in the last 2 seasons -- well, really the whole show. It was all just pointless. A teacher once told me that he reads the last page of a book before he'll read the whole thing. If he doesn't like the ending he won't even bother reading the book. If LOST was a book, no one would read it due to the bad ending.

 

[Mac'nCheese]

Off topic but there won't be anything in addition to the Sopranos, Tony gets killed in the end. You don't see it but the evidence is all there plus the creator confirmed it in an interview.

Are you jerking me around? I didn;t know that. What evidence and really? He said that in an interview. Cause if that's true,why not show it?

That would have happened anyway. Honestly, I cannot believe all the fuss. You guys really thought they were going to sit there and answer all your questions one by one?

Really? Come on.

Of course not. I didn't expect every single question to be answered. But some of them. And the jerk-off this never really happened alt-reality plot ending was ********.

Of course not. I didn't expect every single question to be answered. But some of them. And the jerk-off this never really happened alt-reality plot ending was ********.

Sorry, my ending got cut off. I wrote that the ending was ********.

 

[Surely]

Are you jerking me around? I didn;t know that. What evidence and really? He said that in an interview. Cause if that's true,why not show it?

Of course not. I didn't expect every single question to be answered. But some of them. And the jerk-off this never really happened alt-reality plot ending was ********.

Someones got a one-track mind......

 

[0098386]

If LOST was a book, no one would read it due to the bad ending.

In your opinion. I thought the ending was fantastic. I wasn't confused by the ending at all, it all flowed towards a nice conclusion. If it was all a dream or the events of one person that didn't actually happen - then yea. I don't think it invalidated anything.