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I remember that episode, actually. But I think it was just a statement about Jacob's personality. I don't think there was any real significance behind that fact. Ultimately, the numbers were just used to identify the candidates and those six numbers (4 8 15 16 23 42) were just the numbers of those that would be left standing at the end.

That's the episode that FLocke shows Sawyer the names on the walls in his cave.

The Substitute

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I remember that episode, actually. But I think it was just a statement about Jacob's personality. I don't think there was any real significance behind that fact. Ultimately, the numbers were just used to identify the candidates and those six numbers (4 8 15 16 23 42) were just the numbers of those that would be left standing at the end.

Right but the whole fact that those numbers were "magical" was never addressed in a way that will satisfy everyone. Why did that nut keep repeating them to Hurley? Why did they pop up in the lottery?Why where they on the hatch? Because Jacob assigned them to the candidates, oh, ok. I've said it once, I'll say it again, the writers piled mystery upon mystery, had storyline upon storyline and it just didn't all add up right. Not a complete copout ending like Sopranos but certainly no Battlestar Galactica!
 
Right but the whole fact that those numbers were "magical" was never addressed in a way that will satisfy everyone. Why did that nut keep repeating them to Hurley? Why did they pop up in the lottery?Why where they on the hatch? Because Jacob assigned them to the candidates, oh, ok. I've said it once, I'll say it again, the writers piled mystery upon mystery, had storyline upon storyline and it just didn't all add up right. Not a complete copout ending like Sopranos but certainly no Battlestar Galactica!

I think the numbers were "magical" in the sense that they were fated to connect Hurley's life prior to the island and his life on the island. The colliding of those two worlds really proved to Hurley what his purpose was. I think ultimately, isn't that what the whole show turned out to be about? Each character finding and carrying out their fate. Especially Jack because one could argue that the whole show was really about Jack's spiritual journey more so than anyone else.

I definitely understand where you're coming from so don't get me wrong. I just feel like the way that the writers may have been looking at it was that they wanted to prove that the island and its crazy magic mysteries was just a catalyst to helping these characters make life or death decisions that would ultimately make them choose the light side or the dark side of things. In that sense, I guess I took it as the writers just used the crazy story of the island to portray this message of redemption as opposed to actually think up answers to its crazy mysteries.

I know a lot of people view that as a cop-out on the writer's part though and I must say I understand..I guess I'm just not really focusing on that end of the story because I was impressed by the spiritual explanation/aspects.
 
To anyone disappointed, I can't imagine why.

I feel exactly opposite of this. To all of those who liked it, I can't imagine why. I have trouble understanding how anyone who actually watched all six seasons of LOST and was emotionally invested in the story could say that the ending was perfect. I just don't get it.

I've explained it previously, but I'll say it again. I did not like the ending because it disregarded and invalidated everything that happened in the last 2 seasons. All of the time travel, the bomb going off, Juliet saying "it worked", and the side flashes were all leading us to believe that they were going to change things. (Even Desmond believed everything was going to be ok. So, what, he was seeing into his afterlife while still alive???) All of that fluff was pointless. If they were just going to meetup in the afterlife, this could have been told in a story that didn't have all of the extraneous stuff in it. They could have wrapped it up at the end of season 4. Nothing happened in season 5 or 6 that was pertinent to the conclusion of the series.

Regardless of the haters, it's sort of interesting to see everyone's individual take on the finale. Granted, it mostly had one clear message there are a lot of things that people can interpret for themselves as well.

I find it interesting how those who liked it call anyone who disagrees with their opinion "haters". LOST was my favorite show, and I have just as much of a right to dislike the ending as you do to like it.
 
Right but the whole fact that those numbers were "magical" was never addressed in a way that will satisfy everyone. Why did that nut keep repeating them to Hurley? Why did they pop up in the lottery?Why where they on the hatch? Because Jacob assigned them to the candidates, oh, ok. I've said it once, I'll say it again, the writers piled mystery upon mystery, had storyline upon storyline and it just didn't all add up right. Not a complete copout ending like Sopranos but certainly no Battlestar Galactica!

I guess according to some people the numbers, and anything else thats still questionable means nothing/isnt significant.....


......damn i think im retarded cause i dont seem to want to get this whole isnt significant thing
 
I feel exactly opposite of this. To all of those who liked it, I can't imagine why. I have trouble understanding how anyone who actually watched all six seasons of LOST and was emotionally invested in the story could say that the ending was perfect. I just don't get it.

I've explained it previously, but I'll say it again. I did not like the ending because it disregarded and invalidated everything that happened in the last 2 seasons. All of the time travel, the bomb going off, Juliet saying "it worked", and the side flashes were all leading us to believe that they were going to change things. (Even Desmond believed everything was going to be ok. So, what, he was seeing into his afterlife while still alive???) All of that fluff was pointless. If they were just going to meetup in the afterlife, this could have been told in a story that didn't have all of the extraneous stuff in it. They could have wrapped it up at the end of season 4. Nothing happened in season 5 or 6 that was pertinent to the conclusion of the series.



I find it interesting how those who liked it call anyone who disagrees with their opinion "haters". LOST was my favorite show, and I have just as much of a right to dislike the ending as you do to like it.

Of course. I loved it because like life, there are no definite answers. Life is what it is, there are seldom explanations. What matters is the journey and how we react to it- who we love and why. The details never matter in the end- only how we have treated the people we know and love. To me, it was one of the most beautiful stories I've ever seen on TV.
 
For some reason i can't stop thinking of the Pearl Station. Where the people there observed the people working in the Swan pushing the button. They wrote down what they observed, put it into a canister that was sucked up a tube. We then find out the tube leads out to an open grassy area of the Island (dump). Showing that the observations (theories) are meaningless.

I wonder if that was the writers poking fun at everyone online. Saying "hey you can write all your theories, but you'll find out it was all for nothing"
 
Explanation for why they were all dead....

But then you have to explain one of the most important points that Christian makes to Jack in the church: That the most important part of his life was spent with the people in the church. If they died in the crash, they died not knowing one another and there's no reason for just these castaways to be in the church. The entire plane -- Frogurt, Arzt and the rest -- would be sitting in the pews as well.

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Regarding the numbers - maybe everyone had the numbers shown to them throughout their lives. It was just Hugo who noticed them.
The lighthouse scene showed that the numbers were there to bring people in. All the events in getting to the island concerned those numbers.
 
@TuffLuff

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Notice the non-crossed-off name at number 51: Austen.
 
Of course. I loved it because like life, there are no definite answers. Life is what it is, there are seldom explanations. What matters is the journey and how we react to it- who we love and why. The details never matter in the end- only how we have treated the people we know and love. To me, it was one of the most beautiful stories I've ever seen on TV.

This is exactly how I feel about the ending, it was the best way to end it. They could have tried to explain everything with made up stuff but really it isn't important, what was important was the journey they took together and what they each/gained learned in the end.
 
I feel exactly opposite of this. To all of those who liked it, I can't imagine why. I have trouble understanding how anyone who actually watched all six seasons of LOST and was emotionally invested in the story could say that the ending was perfect. I just don't get it.

I've explained it previously, but I'll say it again. I did not like the ending because it disregarded and invalidated everything that happened in the last 2 seasons. All of the time travel, the bomb going off, Juliet saying "it worked", and the side flashes were all leading us to believe that they were going to change things. (Even Desmond believed everything was going to be ok. So, what, he was seeing into his afterlife while still alive???) All of that fluff was pointless. If they were just going to meetup in the afterlife, this could have been told in a story that didn't have all of the extraneous stuff in it. They could have wrapped it up at the end of season 4. Nothing happened in season 5 or 6 that was pertinent to the conclusion of the series.



I find it interesting how those who liked it call anyone who disagrees with their opinion "haters". LOST was my favorite show, and I have just as much of a right to dislike the ending as you do to like it.

I couldn't really explain to my coworkers while I wasn't thrilled about the ending. You just did it for me. Thank you. You. Complete. Me.
 
Personally, I thought the ending was fairly originally, Sure it didn't answer every question. If all questions were answered then a lot *more* people would have been disappointed. Overall, the story did have too much mythology IMO.

Still, a good ending.

Meh, the ending was the same as Battlestar Galactica's ending last year. They over-saturated the show with character interaction and left the story, plot, and mystery on the back burner. Everyone, in a sense, dies, and it didn't really matter much anyways.

In a long story, short, ABC wanted to dick with stupid viewers for advertising revenue and the writers interchange the phrase "creative freedom" to end the show on their own terms and "milking the cow" all too easily.

Also, two unrelated gripes... when Kate shot the Man in Black in the back, couldn't get the image and thought of Peter Griffin spouting out Lethal Weapon one liners. If they were going for classic camp in the nick of time... maybe say, "I'll have what he's having" or "Served" or "No time for love, Mr. Smoke Monster".

and the "Heart of the Island" and pull that rock in and out of the core reminded me of The Wrath of Khan where Spock had to sacrifice himself to save everyone. In a sense, Desmond was Scottish Spock, with a better radiation resistance.
 
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