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Lost (TV show)

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Lacero said:
Why does the baby snatching plotline fizzle? They added it to add some unnecessary suspense. I think the real reason for it was so that LOTR guy would find the mariwana bags.
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they were bags of heroin.
 
atszyman said:
Was Hurley's first name (Hugo) mentioned before this episode?

If not how did Locke know it?
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Doctor Q said:
I thought I remembered that everyone knew his first name already, but I can't remember how it came to pass.
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Not sure but Doctor Q could be right.

An other idea is that as some have speculated that Hurley owned the Box factory that Locke worked at, he might have known who Hurley was.
 
Can someone please explain to me how a stick of dynamite wrapped in a wet shirt can spontaneously explode?

JJ Abram, please write more convincing plot contrivances. If this keeps up, I might just get lost on Lost.
 
Lacero said:
Can someone please explain to me how a stick of dynamite wrapped in a wet shirt can spontaneously explode?

JJ Abram, please write more convincing plot contrivances. If this keeps up, I might just get lost on Lost.
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Because Nitro Glycerin is not happy stuff. When it decomposes it releases oxygen. Arnst was right and wrong about it.

The inventor of nitroglycerin did blow his face off but survived.
Nitroglycerin is not the most unstable and dangerous explosive, there are a few others that come to mind but its up there. It explodes when it is hot (50C) It explodes under acidic conditions, It explodes with friction, It explodes with a shock.

Arnst grabbed the ugliest stick of the bunch and was waving it around when it went off. If he were a real dead guy he would earn a Darwin.
 
Speaking of the TNT handling...

I thought the handling of the explosive was fairly realistic (assuming that 100+ year old nitro wouldn't all have oozed out and/or exploded by now!) The older nitro gets the more unstable it becomes (or so I've heard...and again assuming that this really old stuff was still volatile). When I saw them carrying out the whole friggin’ case I couldn't believe it. It that blew it would have taken all of them and flattened that ship easy! Someone had to die to illustrate how easily the stuff could explode, and as Mongo pointed out Arnst did pull out one of the crustiest sticks in the box...not smart... :rolleyes: The fact that the rest of the box didn't react to the shockwave, or heat of the explosion when Arnst went up wasn’t really realistic, but needed for the plot. What really gets me is that at the end they put a fuse into these things! I would have thrown rocks at the hatch lid, or rigged a log to drop from a tree, or shot at them! Even if I missed one of those methods surely would have jarred the nitro and caused the required explosion…. But I guess they wanted to give Hurley enough time to see the numbers on the hatch and freak out. ...sometimes you've got to suspend disbelief for the plot points ;) ...
 
Raid said:
But I guess they wanted to give Hurley enough time to see the numbers on the hatch and freak out. ...sometimes you've got to suspend disbelief for the plot points ;) ...
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Yeah. The ship looked to be somewhere around 160-200 years old. There was no evidence of steam power which means it was likely built before the 1850 most likely in the 1830s. Dynamite wasn't invented until 1867. If it were a slave ship there would have been more of them and packed in tighter and away from the explosives.

The stenciling on the box also bothered me. When did that come into common use?
 
MongoTheGeek said:
Yeah. The ship looked to be somewhere around 160-200 years old. There was no evidence of steam power which means it was likely built before the 1850 most likely in the 1830s. Dynamite wasn't invented until 1867. If it were a slave ship there would have been more of them and packed in tighter and away from the explosives.

The stenciling on the box also bothered me. When did that come into common use?
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Hmmm some good points, I don't really know the backstory on this ship.


Of course all of these points you make could be dealt with in some peculiar way by talking about "the island did it". I wonder if season 2 will give us a bit more info on the boat.

Raid said:
The fact that the rest of the box didn't react to the shockwave, or heat of the explosion when Arnst went up wasn’t really realistic
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I agree, seeing as he was right next to the box, and the fact that he was completely obliterated it would seem like the whole box should have gone up.

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I would have thrown rocks at the hatch lid
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My friend suggested that, we all though it a likely possibility.

Of course, as you said, one needs to suspend disbelief (I really like that term, just learned it this year) is a story such as lost quite a bit.

The real difficulty for the writers is not crossing the line where the viewer refuses to suspend their disbelief any further and stops watching the show/taking is seriously.
 
Rocks? They tried something a little stronger than rocks and it failed.
 

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Yes, there's a picture in the same place as that note. It's a picture of a pink script revision from Exodus II.

I came into Lost far too late. I have SO many questions. Hopefully they will re-run them in order so I can catch up before season 2.
 
sarae said:
When did this go up? Something to keep us busy over the summer, or has it been up all season? It's kinda freaky..
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i found out about it today, so i don't know. i've heard that you can use the "lost" numbers as seat assignments and such and find more messages. i did see a page that basically said if you can answer a bunch of questions correctly you'll be put on an email list and get stuff directly from the show's writers.

i won't have time to scan the site in-depth until tonite...ah, something to look forward to.
:D
 
3rdpath said:
i found out about it today, so i don't know. i've heard that you can use the "lost" numbers as seat assignments and such and find more messages. i did see a page that basically said if you can answer a bunch of questions correctly you'll be put on an email list and get stuff directly from the show's writers.

i won't have time to scan the site in-depth until tonite...ah, something to look forward to.
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Yeah, the quiz is under the "in-flight magazine" link. Saw the seating chart but I couldn't figure out what to do with it.. clicked around but nothing happened except two of the characters' seat numbers were highlighted. Ah well. Liked the hidden messages from other people stranded on the island. I wonder if it's supposed to be a regular SOS message, or if it's the messages people put in the bottle.
 
Sharewaredemon said:
He meant throw rocks at the TNT to detonate it, instead of using a fuse.
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That wouldn't have made sense, since Locke chose the most stable sticks of dynamite to transport... they would have been far more resistant to detonation via impact. Also, you'd have to be able to actually hit the dynamite from a distance, and there'd be too much chance of missing and dislodging the dynamite.

The fuse option was MUCH better, and more reliable.
 
here's what i've found so far:

a page of script describing the "monster" for next season.
a trailer for next season that has an interesting tag line.
a link to another websit and forum.
the map of the island.
the seating chart has some clues.

i haven't found any messages from survivors--whats up with that.


obviously, i'm being vague so as not to spoil the fun.
 
I missed where they got the fuses from, but I'm assuming they're from the slave ship? Wouldn't the fuses have rusted out? That's a rain forest, and dead wood only holds up for so long in places like that. What about the dynamite being fragile enough that a casual gesture would blow a man to smithereens? How in the world am I supposed to believe Locke and the doc were able to hike across several miles of rough terrain without jostlint the dynamite? And what in the world possessed them to walk so close together? Walk in pairs? Why, so all four of them can get blown up?

And how did the rafters get the keel back on so easily while afloat without equipment of any kind? That's rather hard to believe.

That being said, I don't mind suspending disbelief. I really love the show.

As for Arzt picking up the most fragile looking stick, maybe the man had a death wish. He hated being marooned and he just wanted to die. See? I can suspend disbelief. :)
 
The re-ran it tonight (well, last night). I Tivo'ed it and don't have plans this weekend (recovering from being sick) so I'm going to watch it a little more closely unitl I figure out what the heck is going on. I hate being late to the party.
 
Awimoway said:
I missed where they got the fuses from, but I'm assuming they're from the slave ship? Wouldn't the fuses have rusted out? That's a rain forest, and dead wood only holds up for so long in places like that. What about the dynamite being fragile enough that a casual gesture would blow a man to smithereens? How in the world am I supposed to believe Locke and the doc were able to hike across several miles of rough terrain without jostlint the dynamite? And what in the world possessed them to walk so close together? Walk in pairs? Why, so all four of them can get blown up?

And how did the rafters get the keel back on so easily while afloat without equipment of any kind? That's rather hard to believe.

That being said, I don't mind suspending disbelief. I really love the show.

As for Arzt picking up the most fragile looking stick, maybe the man had a death wish. He hated being marooned and he just wanted to die. See? I can suspend disbelief. :)
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The fuses came from the boat as well. I believe Kate carried them out when Locke and Jack carried out the crate. They were not electronic fuses, rather the flammable kind so I don't think rust would be a problem.

Arzt picked the ugliest looking stick since it was the best to prove his point, unfortunately it was also the best to blow him up. Jack and Locke picked the driest sticks in order to avoid Arzt's fate. They didn't walk close at the beginning (they were staggered), but after the security system came along Jack decided it was more important to confront Locke than keep from blowing up (why, I'm not sure).

The raft rudder isn't hard to believe. They built the raft without any special tools, why can't they re-attach pieces in the field especially when it only broke at the attachment point, and didn't fall apart.

And never discount the power of the island to keep things like dynamite, fuses, and boats in good enough shape to be useful.
 
The numbers

Did anyone else notice that "the numbers" came up the entire time Hurley was trying to get on the plane? From the speed of the car (8 to 4) to the uniform numbers of the girls soccer team.

Also the comic book they keep showing, I believe is from a Flash/Green Latern actual comic book where an alien comes down to earth but the government gets the alien and buries the spaceship underground and it is like a floating island, kind of like Lost.
 
Spoiler alert!

Do not read the text below if you don't want to know information about next season's plot developments. Do not quote this post in a reply since that will make the text visible.

Highlight text to read spoiler info:
  • The plane did not crash by accident. It crashed for a very specific reason but the crash was not caused by someone on board. (We thought it might be Walt.)
  • Sawyer was shot but none of the raft crew is dead.
  • "The Others" are the ones who kidnapped Walt.
  • What's in the hatch is less important than the effect it has on Locke.
  • The castaways will find the rear section of the plane and additional survivors.
  • Finally, things are "gonna get weird" next season.
 
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