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I have to admit - the kidnapping of Walt surprised me. Essentially, we have no idea what will happen to anyone who was on the raft. Weird.

As for the hatch, it was pretty much what many had talked about - a way into the island, at least apparently.

And congrats to yellow for calling the French lady baby-snatching.
 
well that answered not a single question. what a lame ending. HBO did the same thing with the first season of Carnivale, and that just got cancelled. I predict this show's got one more season and that's it.
 
I couldn't disagree more with the people who did not like this finale, I thought it was wonderful.

I am going to wait a bit before I say it is my favorite episode of the season, since of course it is freshest in my mind. With that said, it has been a few hours and I've read tons of criticism on the finale and I still think it was amazing.

For people to say nothing happened is ricidulous...sure we didn't find out what was in the hatch or what the monster looked like exactly, but we found out enough. I mean when we first heard of the "monster" who thought it would be so mechanical? It travels quickly and leaves black smoke behind.

I was very pleased, and would be happy to field any more criticism. Great episode. :D (And no, I am not a mindless fan who will automatically like everything)
 
dejo said:
I dunno. It answered the question: "What's the baby's name?"
And his name is Aaron. The name of the finale episode was Exodus. Get it? Aaron was the brother of Moses... who's featured in the book of Exodus in the Bible.

And I thought it was nice to hear Locke say that what was inside the hatch was hope... and hope was the last thing remaining inside Pandora's Box when Pandora opened it and then sealed it shut again.
 
Am I frustrated that we didn't get to see more of the monster or the inside of the hatch? Absolutely. Surprised? No.

But I think there were a lot of answers tonight, just not those we were looking for. Jin's discussion of them being punished was very revealing. Locke's discussion of faith vs. reason was interesting. Boone having a death wish is interesting. Also, we got to see the others, and we discovered that they're looking for Walt, which explains why he knew he had to get off the island.

I wonder what's so important about that watch. I have a feeling it's going to come in handy soon.
 
I liked it. It was interesting to see everyone getting on the plane together.

When the teacher guy was giving his speech to Hurley about there being 40 other survivor, I knew right then and there that he was going to die. It was a cry out to the Gods of scriptwriting to be smitten. Kinda like Boone and the "Hey, I'm wearing a red shirt." As soon as he was in a dangerous area away from Captain Kirk.

I knew the frenchwoman was confused somewhat with the their coming for the boy. I didn't fully catch onto until I saw the others on the boat.

Sawyer, Michael and Jin need to back to the Island to get Walt back.

I was rather disappointed with the black mist. It looked like a refugee from season 2 of ST:TNG.

I too caught onto the Pandoras Box reference.

I loved the bit with Hurley trying to make the plane. This is your lucky day...

Anyone else notice the ladder didn't go all the way down?
 
Awimoway said:
But I think there were a lot of answers tonight, just not those we were looking for. Jin's discussion of them being punished was very revealing. Locke's discussion of faith vs. reason was interesting. Boone having a death wish is interesting. Also, we got to see the others, and we discovered that they're looking for Walt, which explains why he knew he had to get off the island.

I thought it was Sawyer with the death wish? The question is, is he dead?
I found it interesting that Hurley had comic book that walt was reading that was the source(?) of the polar bears.
 
MongoTheGeek said:
I thought it was Sawyer with the death wish? The question is, is he dead?
I found it interesting that Hurley had comic book that walt was reading that was the source(?) of the polar bears.

I noticed that too, I thought it was cool. Do we ever find out where that polar bear came from?

MongoTheGeek said:
Anyone else notice the ladder didn't go all the way down?

Yeah I noticed that too.

I think lock is going to be the one who goes down. But first they will have to make (do they have rope?) a long rope to lower him down.

I wonder if Sawyer died when he got shot? Also, do you guys think that the survivors on the raft will float back to the island because there is still a bit of debris they can hang onto?
 
Peyote said:
well that answered not a single question. what a lame ending. HBO did the same thing with the first season of Carnivale, and that just got cancelled. I predict this show's got one more season and that's it.

Yeah, this is the episode/plot lines that should have come out after the christmas break. Could this show get any slower? Oh yeah, lets have the last half of the show dedicated to people rushing for a plane (they make it) and a nice slow motion boarding sequence. At least the show started out with a bang (where was the blood?)

Seems like they are giving a lot of time to character development before they got to the island, which is good, but why doesn't anyone talk to each other about WTF just happened on the island?

So what we have is an unmapped remote island populated by a group of technically advanced and deliberate people (the others), descended from a slave ship (?), who are using evil numbers to attract ships full of people with personal issues, heal their physical wounds, give them opportunities to redeem themselves socially (only if they stay by the beach), then steal their supernatural children (Walt and Claire's devil baby)?

Come on, who would watch something like that? :rolleyes:
 
Come on, who would watch something like that?

You don't like the show... that part is obvious. But why do you come on to a thread undoubdetly containing fans and say something like that?

Moving on....

Who else thinks that this lost island is a metaphor for purgatory? That they're all in the void between life and death, which is why they can't contact anyone or get off. Here are some arguments...
1. The hatch- Completely out of place, could represent death (locked, no way in, yet they tried anyway)
2. The invisible monster- Could represent revival.. Locke (being probably the most intelligent one on the island) said "Let me go Jack, I'll be fine". Locke seems to be the most spiritually in touch on the island... maybe he knows something the others don't?
3. Locke's lecture to Jack at the end about fate and destiny... He said that all the passengers (surviving with merely scrapes) did not survive purely by coincedence. Jack said he didn't believe in destiny... Locke said "Oh, you do Jack... You just don't know it yet"
3. The Polar Bear(s)- Previous to the flight, both Hurley and Walt were reading a comic book featuring massive polar bears. Could the one they killed be a manifestation of one (or both) of the two? Could their struggles with the polar bear represent their personal battles in regaining life?
4. With ALL the references to ancient mythology and such, how could it be that there is NOT a greater, classical theme underlying?

Some other thoughts... It was mentioned off hand by locke a few episodes back that Walt was a "Special boy" or something to that matter. It has also been said that the newborn child has some major significance, which is why claire is so pretective. Could it be that the "Others" are really the power that prevents these two from dying? Maybe their specialness is so significant taht they MUST survive, which is why they're being sought after by these "others". They come off as evil, but really, aren't they just doing what they have to in order to get these children? They're not killing uncontrollably, only those who get in the way...

Personally I've got so many questions left unanswered that my mind is reeling non stop. I really hope this show continues, as I would not be able to handle it if they never answered the questions. Yeah, Lost leaves me frustrated after every episode... but how often do you get to watch a group of people skeem on how to blow up a metal hatch on a deserted island?
 
pdpfilms said:
You don't like the show... that part is obvious. But why do you come on to a thread undoubdetly containing fans and say something like that?

Moving on....

Who else thinks that this lost island is a metaphor for purgatory? That they're all in the void between life and death, which is why they can't contact anyone or get off. Here are some arguments...
1. The hatch- Completely out of place, could represent death (locked, no way in, yet they tried anyway)
2. The invisible monster- Could represent revival.. Locke (being probably the most intelligent one on the island) said "Let me go Jack, I'll be fine". Locke seems to be the most spiritually in touch on the island... maybe he knows something the others don't?
3. Locke's lecture to Jack at the end about fate and destiny... He said that all the passengers (surviving with merely scrapes) did not survive purely by coincedence. Jack said he didn't believe in destiny... Locke said "Oh, you do Jack... You just don't know it yet"
3. The Polar Bear(s)- Previous to the flight, both Hurley and Walt were reading a comic book featuring massive polar bears. Could the one they killed be a manifestation of one (or both) of the two? Could their struggles with the polar bear represent their personal battles in regaining life?
4. With ALL the references to ancient mythology and such, how could it be that there is NOT a greater, classical theme underlying?

Some other thoughts... It was mentioned off hand by locke a few episodes back that Walt was a "Special boy" or something to that matter. It has also been said that the newborn child has some major significance, which is why claire is so pretective. Could it be that the "Others" are really the power that prevents these two from dying? Maybe their specialness is so significant taht they MUST survive, which is why they're being sought after by these "others". They come off as evil, but really, aren't they just doing what they have to in order to get these children? They're not killing uncontrollably, only those who get in the way...

Personally I've got so many questions left unanswered that my mind is reeling non stop. I really hope this show continues, as I would not be able to handle it if they never answered the questions. Yeah, Lost leaves me frustrated after every episode... but how often do you get to watch a group of people skeem on how to blow up a metal hatch on a deserted island?

These are some well thought out points, I like reading this as it is nice to see other peoples interpretation of the show. This analysis seems very spot on.

I like Locke too. I think he will be the one to go down the hatch next season.

BTW when does next season start?
 
pdpfilms said:
You don't like the show... that part is obvious. But why do you come on to a thread undoubdetly containing fans and say something like that?

Sorry, I'm a big fan of the show and that last line was sarcastic. Just a little mad at the way ABC (or the writers, don’t know) have dragged this show out and tried for a little humor at the over plotlines of the show :rolleyes:

I plan my Wednesdays (no Tivo or VCR) to make sure I can catch the show and enjoy reading this thread and post like yours for insight, sorry if I came off as a troll.
 
I've Tivo'ed the finale and I won't watch it until a day before the season 2 premiere. That way, I won't have to suffer through the summer. Pretty ingenious eh?
 
Lacero said:
I've Tivo'ed the finale and I won't watch it until a day before the season 2 premiere. That way, I won't have to suffer through the summer. Pretty ingenious eh?
Until you or someone else deletes it on accident (or on purpose because you pissed them off).
 
Part of me really enjoyed the season finale, the other part somewhat. Yes it was a good episode and we learned a little more, but since the writers had said they had such a great script that they needed a 2 hour timeslot, i figured it would be non stop storytelling providing at least one big answer to the island. Not seeing the monster was understandable, but i felt it would've been a really strong cliffhanger for me if they at least showed a small peak at what's actually in the hatch so we could puzzle all summer about what is really in the hatch, not how they ended it with as much as he could figure out from the outside, other than its really really deep. But like i said I really loved this episode for the discussion of fate and destiny, beliefs in sciene and faith, Locke wanting to be captured by the monster, a glimpse at more of the others, and that Walt could probably be the most important person to the island, and the great scene of everyone boarding the plane together to a destination they never knew. Like someone comparing Lost to Carnivale in an earlier post, hopefully we'll see this show take the same move as Carnivale. Where in Season 1 it was pretty slow a interesting bits and pieces of the story appearing, and by Season 2, we really knew the characters and the story just took off with lots of information being thrown at us.
 
pdpfilms said:
You don't like the show... that part is obvious. But why do you come on to a thread undoubdetly containing fans and say something like that?
Never go to Ain't It Cool News. :p Everytime they have a thread about a show, half of the posts are about how much the show sucks and they would never watch it. I'm trying to get into this show, but I'm a little late to the party. It's a bit frustrating. From what I saw of this episode, it was the same problem. Frustrating. Based on what I've heard so far, a lot of people are disappointed by this ep as well.
 
atszyman said:
Was Hurley's first name (Hugo) mentioned before this episode?

If not how did Locke know it?
I thought I remembered that everyone knew his first name already, but I can't remember how it came to pass.
 
Doctor Q said:
I thought I remembered that everyone knew his first name already, but I can't remember how it came to pass.
There was a census.

I wonder where the electricity wire and hatch go to/come from ...

And was it just me or did the wisp of black smoke look like a soul?
 
Why does the baby snatching plotline fizzle? They added it to add some unnecessary suspense. I think the real reason for it was so that LOTR guy would find the mariwana bags.
 
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