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Dr. Dastardly said:
I don't think its an obsession with children, just an obsession with Walt. They could have easily taken the Claire's baby when they had a chance but they went out of their way to go after Walt on the boat.
Yeah, if it were a gene pool thing, they'd want women of child-bearing age perhaps, as well as men.

Of course, starting with younger children makes it less likely they'll fight the "society".
 
two details to add to the plot:

1. maybe this is already well known, but the shark symbol it is NOT the swan symbol. Maybe a separate substation ? (kinda look like a peacock)

2. the hanso site: there is a 'secret' mouseover that highlights "the dharma initiative", although nothing happens when you click
 

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Don't panic said:
two details to add to the plot:

1. maybe this is already well known, but the shark symbol it is NOT the swan symbol. Maybe a separate substation ? (kinda look like a peacock)

2. the hanso site: there is a 'secret' mouseover that highlights "the dharma initiative", although nothing happens when you click
The orientation did mention they were interested in zoological studies (did you see the polar bears in the movie?), so the sharks could be a part of that study/lab.

I was thinking out loud with my wife this morning... but what if the facility Desmond is looking after houses some sort of nuclear fusion lab? Perhaps the electromagnetic research is to be used to contain the reactor and every 108 minutes the field has to be recharged/re-polarized/restarted/whatever? No clue, but interesting.

Thinking back along the lines of other research stations on the island... but if there other habitats on the island, what are the odds the survivors find a map to another station, say the zoological one, and find out that one is empty/its caretakers dead? That would explain the free-range polar bears.. :)

Also, on the Hanso foundation website, one of the research projects/goals is Life-extension. What if the "others" are the result of that research but somehow got sick... mentally ill? I dunno.. hehe, this is fun. :)
 
Tbh, we didn't learn too much from that episode... I did kinda want Jack to let the timer run down though.... :)

What was the name of the guy who was doing shifts with Desmond down the shaft? Is that the mental guy?
 
I liked Desmond saying "see you in another life" to Jack yet again.

As pointed out above by clayj, the numbers add up to 108, which is the number of minutes on the perpetual countdown timer. I like that tidy mathematical aspect.

Hurley was ready to let them use the wrong numbers, which makes sense, but it's a little odd that Kate has said nothing about the science-vs.-faith debate. Does she care whether they enter the numbers (because it will save the world) or skip it (because it's all a psychological experiment)?

Next week: Hurley And The Food. That should be fun!
 
XIII said:
What was the name of the guy who was doing shifts with Desmond down the shaft? Is that the mental guy?
I thought Desmond said his partner died, so the guy in the mental institution must have been an earlier operator, or one from another station.
 
Doctor Q said:
I liked Desmond saying "see you in another life" to Jack yet again.

As pointed out above by clayj, the numbers add up to 108, which is the number of minutes on the perpetual countdown timer. I like that tidy mathematical aspect.

Hurley was ready to let them use the wrong numbers, which makes sense, but it's a little odd that Kate has said nothing about the science-vs.-faith debate. Does she care whether they enter the numbers (because it will save the world) or skip it (because it's all a psychological experiment)?

Next week: Hurley And The Food. That should be fun!

That maths makes me smile. :) Hurley and the food... heh. I also found it odd that the "others" speak english too...
 
Doctor Q said:
I thought Desmond said his partner died, so the guy in the mental institution must have been an earlier operator, or one from another station.

Yeah, I guess. Desmond said the name as though we ought to know who it is.. and no one questioned who it was. Thats what made me think..
 
XIII said:
Yeah, I guess. Desmond said the name as though we ought to know who it is.. and no one questioned who it was. Thats what made me think..
Wasn't his name Kelvin? Calvin?
 
I think at the moment, the situation was just a little bit too surreal and was overwhelming. I found it a bit lame that Jack was so adamant about it being BS the whole time and pretty much caved too easily at the end of the episode.
 
I was kind of disappointed Michelle Rodriguez turned out to be one of the Others (I guess)... I'm guessing she gets killed off eventually, shame.
 
MongoTheGeek said:
It sorta makes sense. If that was another group of passengers who had been besieged by the others, it makes a good tactic to interrogate prisoners. She seemed honestly shocked when she heard about the plane crash.
But didn't she say "Flight 815?" to them?
 
clayj said:
It was Kelvin... I remember thinking that it was odd he'd have the same name as Lord Kelvin.

I thought he said "Calvin" and it just sort of sounded like "Kelvin" because of his accent. Although I could be wrong.
 
rickvanr said:
Well, we KNOW that she was on the same flight as everyone else... but if the rear end of the plane came down on a different part of the island, then any survivors from that section were likely killed or assimilated by the Others.

This raises an interesting question about Rose's husband... if he truly survived the crash (as Rose believed he did), then he's either been killed by the Others (or by something else), has JOINED the Others, or is being held prisoner by the Others.
 
clayj said:
Well, we KNOW that she was on the same flight as everyone else... but if the rear end of the plane came down on a different part of the island, then any survivors from that section were likely killed or assimilated by the Others.

This raises an interesting question about Rose's husband... if he truly survived the crash (as Rose believed he did), then he's either been killed by the Others (or by something else), has JOINED the Others, or is being held prisoner by the Others.

Why do you see everything in black and white? It could be there are 2 camps of plane crash survivors, and that the one that has Sawyer, Micheal and Jin are just a little more primitive because of their makeup. My guess is the group of people that have taken Sawyer and company captive are not the same others as the ones who took Walt.
 
You know, there's no PROOF that they were captured by "The Others", only Jin saying that they were "The Others".
 
yellow said:
You know, there's no PROOF that they were captured by "The Others", only Jin saying that they were "The Others".
You beat me to it. Jin could be assuming that since these nice people took him captive and tied him up, they must be the "Others" that everyone's been talking about.

I think it's reasonable to assume that the people on the boat, the ones that kidnapped Walt, are the "Others" that Rousseau (the French Chick) was referring to. We just don't know that they are connected to this new bunch that have captured Michael, Sawyer and Jin.
 
Is it just me or did the orientation video seem really choppy, almost as if portions were cut out of it? Didn't Desmond say something along the lines of "Watch the video to see what happens if the code is not entered"? Did it show anything? If so, what was it, because I missed it...
 
watcher2001 said:
Is it just me or did the orientation video seem really choppy, almost as if portions were cut out of it? Didn't Desmond say something along the lines of "Watch the video to see what happens if the code is not entered"? Did it show anything? If so, what was it, because I missed it...

Yeah especially at the end, the guy was about to give the big explanation about what the whole deal was about the swan station and then it just jumped to his next topic. It was pretty blatant on purpose I think. The whole "do not attempt to use the computer for..... blurp... Congratulations.."

And right at then end after the thank you's, its appears he's about to say "and one last thing" or something along those lines, but gets cut off again.
 
watcher2001 said:
Is it just me or did the orientation video seem really choppy, almost as if portions were cut out of it? Didn't Desmond say something along the lines of "Watch the video to see what happens if the code is not entered"? Did it show anything? If so, what was it, because I missed it...
The likely reason for the choppiness (within the show itself, not as far as WE are concerned) is that over repeated viewings of the film, the film could get damaged, burned, melted, etc. Desmond and his predecessors have undoubtedly had to repair the film, by cutting out the damaged sections and splicing it back together, many times. Don't forget, that film was 25 years old (copyright date of 1980 at the end).

For our purposes, it allows the writers to omit certain facts they don't want us to know yet.
 
clayj said:
This raises an interesting question about Rose's husband... if he truly survived the crash (as Rose believed he did), then he's either been killed by the Others (or by something else), has JOINED the Others, or is being held prisoner by the Others.
Might he have been one of the people we saw?
 
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