Lost (TV show)

[tagy]

I was talking this one over with my wife, and I like this idea a lot.

Maybe the other camp of survivors (from the tail section) descended into a "Lord of the Flies" situation, where civilized society and behavior became secondary to surivival. Maybe the only the reason the original survivors (Jack, et al) didn't fall into the same sort of situation was because of a strong leader and people with skills available to help keep them alive and more comfortable.

I really like that theory that Walt is being held by the actual Others (who Ethan and blackbeard, etc. came from) and that these captors are actually the other survivors from the crash who developed a more primitive society than our other survivors did.

this is what I was sugesting a few posts up, only not as well described

 

[evoluzione]

Does anyone think the writers have the entire plot line written out, or do you think they are winging it as they go along?

It would be interesting to see after the series ends, to go back and watch the first season for any clues. That would validate if the writers were clever enough in their writing or not.

my girlfriend and i were discussing that point too, i think they have the whole timeline/storyline plotted but are maybe adding in bits as they go along. it seems too clever in many ways to be a "wingin' it" series, although it wouldn't surprise me if it was that way!

maybe they have a number of storylines and are deciding with "path" to go down when they see all our theories on the forums, here, there and everywhere else. kinda like those adventure books...you know, where you decide what happens then have to flip to a different section to carry on that particular storyline...know what i mean?

 

[yellow]

From the promo for this week's episode I started to get the feeling that ALL (many?) of the Dharma Project compounds were on the island. It seems like the folks that captured M, S, & J were taking them to yet another Dharma bunker. I've begun to wonder if the french woman wasn't part of the original group of folks involved in the Dharma Project and the "Others" simply means those not in her group.

 

[3rdpath]

my theory is that the woman from the tail section was just testing sawyer, micheal and jin to see who they were....make sure thay're not the "others"...since jin couldn't tell them much when they found him.

also, did anyone else notice the two people on the boat that took walt that were really "lit up" ( lighting wise) looked a whole lot like the two originators of the dharma project in the orientation film?

 

[joepunk]

Ok, I don't know if this has been seen/posted before so bear with me.

It was made to promote the showing of "Lost" in the UK on Channel 4, and it's set to a druggy Portishead song, called "Numb": "I'm ever so lost/I can't find my way..." Take a look here

 

[pdpfilms]

Ok, I don't know if this has been seen/posted before so bear with me.

It was made to promote the showing of "Lost" in the UK on Channel 4, and it's set to a druggy Portishead song, called "Numb": "I'm ever so lost/I can't find my way..." Take a look here

That is ****ing weird. The only thing i got out of that was seeing that walt and Locke were both "conducting" the rest of the members on the island.

 

[yellow]

I've changed my mind.. I don't think Jack gave in too easily. I watched the episode again on Saturday (they had a re-run for some reason.. filling empty slots I guess) and I guess I finally understood what was probably very apparent to everyone else.

Locke, up until this point, hasn't needed or wanted help from anyone. He's been a pillar of self-sufficiency. Sure, he's allowed others to tag along, but he would have been ok to just do everything on his own. He's been absolutely confident during almost everything that's happened up until this point. Because of this, he's been a serious oppositioin to Jack's leadership.

With the Execute Incident, he begged/pleaded with Jack for help. Locke pretty much gave up his opposition and bowed to Jack's leadership. Jack recognized this and that if it was that important to Locke.. well I better press it.

Looking forward to tonight's episode.

I'd completely forgotten that Jack flirted with M. Rodriguez's character in the airport bar before the flight.

 

[watcher2001]

I've changed my mind.. I don't think Jack gave in too easily. I watched the episode again on Saturday (they had a re-run for some reason.. filling empty slots I guess) and I guess I finally understood what was probably very apparent to everyone else.

Locke, up until this point, hasn't needed or wanted help from anyone. He's been a pillar of self-sufficiency. Sure, he's allowed others to tag along, but he would have been ok to just do everything on his own. He's been absolutely confident during almost everything that's happened up until this point. Because of this, he's been a serious oppositioin to Jack's leadership.

With the Execute Incident, he begged/pleaded with Jack for help. Locke pretty much gave up his opposition and bowed to Jack's leadership. Jack recognized this and that if it was that important to Locke.. well I better press it.

Looking forward to tonight's episode.

I'd completely forgotten that Jack flirted with M. Rodriguez's character in the airport bar before the flight.

I am in the same boat you are because I did not see that either until you pointed it out. Very good observation on your part or very bad observation on my part Thanks for showing me the light. It makes more sense to me now.

 

[stonyc]

That is ****ing weird. The only thing i got out of that was seeing that walt and Locke were both "conducting" the rest of the members on the island.

Well, it also showed the love triangle between not only Jack/Kate/Sawyer but also a possible one between Jin/Sun/Michael. I thought it was interesting... also, Charlie seemed to be off on his own kind of "freaking out". Could that be a clue to his past/future drug issues?

 

[atszyman]

Theories (have to get these out before tonight's episode proves them wrong).

As pointed out the logo on the Sharks is slightly different indicating that there is a second station, other than Swan Station on the island. If there were 2 it's probably a safe bet that there were three, and aside from magnetics and animal studies, they mentioned behavioral studies. Could the real "Others" (not the people from the back of the plane) be the test subjects from the behavioral studies station?

I think the Swan station screwed up somehow and managed to gain some influence over the earth's magnetic field and their equipment needs to be reset every 108 minutes to avoid an unstable oscillatory pattern that could really mess up Earth. The holes/creature is the start of the reaction getting out of control when Desmond oversleeps (you try getting up every 108 minutes for years on end and see if you don't oversleep every so often).

Locke's paralysis is psychological and the trauma of the plane crash caused him to overcome his issues, however it convinced him in the island has "powers" which led to his faith and reasons why his legs will sometimes not work.

Jin's father-in-law is either a part of the DHARMA initiative, or possibly a competitor that wants to take over and get ahold of the government funding. (If DHARMA really did manage to do something that threatens the planet they must have a sweet deal with whatever governments fund them to keep the planet here). I'd look to Jin for reasons for the plane crash which leads to my wild theory:

The plane was never in the air and some of the survivors were pre-selected to survive the crash. There was an elaborate simulation that gave the impression of flight and the plane was rigged to get pulled apart and some seats purposely had weaker bolts to possibly get ripped from the plane into the simulator/wind tunnel/whatever contraption they had. As they ripped apart the plane some people got sucked out, some got ripped out by force of the simulated impact on the island (through a low altitude drop to the actual island via helicopter or some other means) and some survived.

That's my current theory but I don't necessarily believe it myself, since the writers are definitely more creative than me.

 

[stonyc]

Theories (have to get these out before tonight's episode proves them wrong).

As pointed out the logo on the Sharks is slightly different indicating that there is a second station, other than Swan Station on the island. If there were 2 it's probably a safe bet that there were three, and aside from magnetics and animal studies, they mentioned behavioral studies. Could the real "Others" (not the people from the back of the plane) be the test subjects from the behavioral studies station?

I like this, and I and others have remarked on something to that effect. Remember too though that another of the DHARM research goals was life extension... how do we explain Ethan's super-strength? Maybe his strength comes from the life extension experiment somehow.

I think the Swan station screwed up somehow and managed to gain some influence over the earth's magnetic field and their equipment needs to be reset every 108 minutes to avoid an unstable oscillatory pattern that could really mess up Earth. The holes/creature is the start of the reaction getting out of control when Desmond oversleeps (you try getting up every 108 minutes for years on end and see if you don't oversleep every so often).

I like this theory, too.

Locke's paralysis is psychological and the trauma of the plane crash caused him to overcome his issues, however it convinced him in the island has "powers" which led to his faith and reasons why his legs will sometimes not work.

I could see that.

Jin's father-in-law is either a part of the DHARMA initiative, or possibly a competitor that wants to take over and get ahold of the government funding. (If DHARMA really did manage to do something that threatens the planet they must have a sweet deal with whatever governments fund them to keep the planet here). I'd look to Jin for reasons for the plane crash which leads to my wild theory:

I don't know about Jin's father-in-law... but Jin does seem to be -the- main character that we don't know nearly as much about as the others.

The plane was never in the air and some of the survivors were pre-selected to survive the crash. There was an elaborate simulation that gave the impression of flight and the plane was rigged to get pulled apart and some seats purposely had weaker bolts to possibly get ripped from the plane into the simulator/wind tunnel/whatever contraption they had. As they ripped apart the plane some people got sucked out, some got ripped out by force of the simulated impact on the island (through a low altitude drop to the actual island via helicopter or some other means) and some survived.

That's my current theory but I don't necessarily believe it myself, since the writers are definitely more creative than me.

I don't know if I like that one... though some sort of conspiracy does seem like it would be in the cards.

 

[Doctor Q]

The plane was never in the air and some of the survivors were pre-selected to survive the crash. There was an elaborate simulation that gave the impression of flight and the plane was rigged to get pulled apart and some seats purposely had weaker bolts to possibly get ripped from the plane into the simulator/wind tunnel/whatever contraption they had. As they ripped apart the plane some people got sucked out, some got ripped out by force of the simulated impact on the island (through a low altitude drop to the actual island via helicopter or some other means) and some survived.

Do I hear the Mission: Impossible theme music?

Your idea may be farfetched, but I wouldn't put it past the writers to surprise us with an explanation for the crash that we don't expect, and this is one way they could do that.

 

[emw]

Ah, you will now be able to download lost to your video iPod or your computer for $1.99. Sweet. Now I can spend exorbitant amounts of time picking through episodes to get any clues I might have missed the first time!

 

[Doctor Q]

I couldn't resist doing a screen capture.

 

[3rdpath]

more strangeness

if you go to a secure version of the hanso site( https) you find this:
bigspaceship1.com
go to the site here
and see the polar bears.

does that look like morse code at the top of the page? it also shows up in your safari history page.

edit: it is morse code. pretty funny.

 

[pdpfilms]

if you go to a secure version of the hanso site( https) you find this:
bigspaceship1.com
go to the site here
and see the polar bears.

does that look like morse code at the top of the page? it also shows up in your safari history page.

edit: it is morse code. pretty funny.

That's interesting... what does it say?
(put it in white, so as not to spoil it for others)

 

[Doctor Q]

At that web site, there is a secret message flashed for a split second each time the bears cross. It took me many tries to screen capture it at the right instant, but I got it and enlarged it.

 

[pdpfilms]

At that web site, there is a secret message flashed for a split second each time the bears cross. It took me many tries to screen capture it at the right instant, but I got it and enlarged it.

What is that???

 

[Don't panic]

if you go to a secure version of the hanso site( https) you find this:
bigspaceship1.com
go to the site here
and see the polar bears.

does that look like morse code at the top of the page? it also shows up in your safari history page.

edit: it is morse code. pretty funny.

yeah funny.
if you use the same address still in secure mode, you get the portal for some site, but you need password/username. part of a puzzle/riddle?

on the other hand, bigspacehip.com is a web-designer's site

altogether very bizarre

 

[Doctor Q]

That's interesting... what does it say?
(put it in white, so as not to spoil it for others)

<spoiler>... --- -- . - .. -- . ... SOMETIMES
.- A
.--. --- .-.. .- .-. POLAR
.--. . .- .-. PEAR
.. ... IS
.--- ..- ... - JUST
.- A
.--. --- .-.. .- .-. POLAR
-... . .- .-. BEAR</spoiler>Read it verrrrrry carefully!

 

[pdpfilms]

^^^ that makes no sense.^^^

 

[Lyle]

^^^ that makes no sense.^^^

I think it's just poking fun at all of the people who are (perhaps) overanalyzing the significance of the Polar Bears in "Lost". It's a play on Freud's famous quote, "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."

 

[joepunk]

I guess the page changes from time to time. At one point the morse code said "Let's catch humans all day then throw them away" (got that from another forum lost thread).

 

[emw]

It took me many tries to screen capture it at the right instant, but I got it and enlarged it.

Ctrl-click on the window to get the Flash controls:

 

[Doctor Q]

A better closeup.