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Interesting episode tonight.

Tell me though, was it my overactive imagination, or did I hear Desmond's voice at the very end of the trailer...
 
zach said:
Interesting episode tonight.

Tell me though, was it my overactive imagination, or did I hear Desmond's voice at the very end of the trailer...
they said on the podacast that desmond would be back..

i missed the last 20 min. can anyone pleas fill me in? did they reach the balloon?
 
virus1 said:
they said on the podacast that desmond would be back..

i missed the last 20 min. can anyone pleas fill me in? did they reach the balloon?


the last 20 minutes u see the 3 of them get to the area on the map, however they find no balloon. jack decides to let the "other" out of the room to eat some cereal with him and locke. he reveals that he gave (i forget the girls name) a map then he says how if he were an other " he would have drawn a map that lead to a secluded area where the others would take the 3 of them (sayid charlie etc...) captive and use them to trade of him. this gives a creepy vibe as it seems like a perfect plan and you can see locke and jack exchange looks.

however in the preview for next weeks episode you do see the baloon, its covering them from the rain. but it is interesting none the less. since they made it too obvious at the end of the episode that he was an other, i would say that he isnt an other.

then they showed a sick preview for nextweeks episode in whcih 5 crazy things are going to happen. one of the most notible is a "lock down" of the hatch in whcih locke gets locked in. this is likely due to them not typing in the numbers into the computer, but who knows...
 
I thought this one was way boring. Enough of the sissy pregnancy stuff, lets see some others, some dharma, some ACTION. Next week looks way interesting. I like the look of those sounds coming from the loudspeakers in the hatch. Spooky-big-brother-is-watching type stuff.

Hopefully it's not all a dream.
 
My patience wears thin:

Fill in as your like..

Who/What/Why the hell:

A) is Jin's job for Sun's father?
B) is no one asking about why Merry has a 9mm handgun.
C) is Kate not telling everyone about the "dirty Others" get up in lockers from last episode?
D) are the writers thinking when they go all formulaic with the "well if I was one of the Others, then I would do this sinister thing.. but I'm not, I swear."
E) does Dharma Crunch Ceral taste like?
F) am I still watching this show?
 
yellow said:
A) is Jin's job for Sun's father?
He's a muscle man, some business associate or rival gets unruly and Sun's father sends Jin to "convince" the rival that Sun's father is right.

yellow said:
B) is no one asking about why Merry has a 9mm handgun.
They probably assume that he did something for, or gave something to Sawyer in return for the gun. Besdies, Ana Lucia was the only one/first to notice the gun... but you're right, upon asking about the gun the next logical step would have been for Sayid or AL to ask him how he got the gun.

yellow said:
C) is Kate not telling everyone about the "dirty Others" get up in lockers from last episode?
Maybe she has a reason for not telling everyone else. Who knows?

yellow said:
D) are the writers thinking when they go all formulaic with the "well if I was one of the Others, then I would do this sinister thing.. but I'm not, I swear."
Some people aren't so smart and are easily thrown off by such things? No idea.

yellow said:
E) does Dharma Crunch Ceral taste like?
I vote for chicken, because everything tastes like chicken.

yellow said:
F) am I still watching this show?
If you can't stand the show don't watch it... I can't stand CSI (what forensic specialists carry guns? why do they touch fresh evidence without gloves? their lab techniques are atrocious!) so I try to avoid it when my wife isn't around. Grey's Anatomy is similar in that regard... so many mis-diagnoses or unrealistic liberties taken with reality, blah blah. So, to answer your question, I have no idea why you're still watching the show. :)
 
yellow said:
B) is no one asking about why Merry has a 9mm handgun.
Sawyer told everyone that if anyone wanted a gun, they have to talk to him. I guess everyone assumes that Charlie talked to Sawyer.
 
topgunn said:
Sawyer told everyone that if anyone wanted a gun, they have to talk to him. I guess everyone assumes that Charlie talked to Sawyer.
people should be interested, though, as to why sawer let him have it.
 
I am very interested in why nothing from the girls expedition to the other hatch has not come up. Maybe they were filmed out of sequence with the girls mission being most recent so none of the information from the show has had a chance to come up yet.
 
topgunn said:
I am very interested in why nothing from the girls expedition to the other hatch has not come up. Maybe they were filmed out of sequence with the girls mission being most recent so none of the information from the show has had a chance to come up yet.
Claire saw everything that she wanted to see: she had been at one point drugged and kept prisoner in some sort of facility that was ultimately meant to take her baby. She didn't imagine, she was there. Remember also that she didn't see the lockerroom with the supposed "Other" costumes that Kate did.

Rousseau isn't exactly on the best terms with the survivors, as much as they are afraid/distrustful of her, she is afraid that some of the survivors may develop a "sickness".

That leaves Kate. There are some people who think that she is a mole for the Others. Who knows? But apparently she has some reason why she didn't go off and running to tell Jack (or anyone else for that matter) once they came back.

I think Henry Gale pointed it out between Jack and Locke... that some of the survivors seem to have trust issues. I think it's safe to assume that trust issues exist between other survivors as well (Jack/Sawyer, Kate/Ana-Lucia, Charlie/Claire, and in this episode Ana-Lucia/Jack/Locke). So given the context (of one of the more recent interactions between Kate and Jack was that of Jack wanting to raise an army to fight the Others with Ana-Lucia), maybe Kate doesn't trust Jack with that tidbit of information about the Others. Maybe she's not sure what he'll do with that information... who knows? Suffice to say, it seems like Kate and many other of the core group of survivors don't trust eachother and that may be a factor in why we're not seeing as much distribution of information as we'd like.
 
topgunn said:
I am very interested in why nothing from the girls expedition to the other hatch has not come up. Maybe they were filmed out of sequence with the girls mission being most recent so none of the information from the show has had a chance to come up yet.
they are smarter than that. they are all written beforehand. for example, right now, they are writing the last 3 episodes of the season.

but that is a good point, why that hasn't come up more..
 
I only saw bits and pieces of last night's show (might download it tonight), but I did manage to tune in for the flashback where Sun's doctor stopped her on the street to confess to her that the infertility problem wasn't hers, but Jin's.

Did anyone else notice that during that scene, in the subtitles for the doctor's words, they misspelled "Your" as "You're"? I don't remember specifically what it was he was saying to her, probably something like, "Your womb is as fertile as the Tennessee Valley", but they subtituted the word "You're" for "Your".

Yes, these kinds of things always jump out at me when I'm watching anything that's subtitled or has a scroll along the bottom. It's especially bad for the cable news stations, where you'll sometimes spot multiple mistakes within a few minutes' time.
 
yellow said:
A) is Jin's job for Sun's father?

I don't remember it very clearly, but wasn't that the only way that Sun's father would let her marry Jin? I remember an episode last season where it showed that Jin was from a lower class and didn't have money, but wanted to marry Sun... so her father offered Jin a job, and he didn't think he could say no?

B) is no one asking about why Merry has a 9mm handgun.
C) is Kate not telling everyone about the "dirty Others" get up in lockers from last episode?

Because, as I pointed out after the last episode, no one shares information with each other. Someone said I was just silly expecting to see scenes where the characters were pooling information - that's not what I expect. It's just whenever something pops up, you can tell later that they aren't telling anyone else what's going on, usually. Jack and Locke keep almost everything going on in the hatch as top-secret, and are often unwilling to share information with each other. Most of the other main characters are the same way - they all have things to hide in their past, and they continue to hide things which would be beneficial. That's what Kate is doing here, she is just not telling anyone else - who knows why. Plus, it makes for a better drama when we know things that not all the characters know. :)

D) are the writers thinking when they go all formulaic with the "well if I was one of the Others, then I would do this sinister thing.. but I'm not, I swear."

Isn't that what we were all thinking, anyways? I think it's shows that this Henry guy is definitely not to be trusted. Even if he's not an Other (which I think he is) he's more than willing to stir the pot and try to make them all paranoid.
 
Lyle said:
Did anyone else notice that during that scene, in the subtitles for the doctor's words, they misspelled "Your" as "You're"? I don't remember specifically what it was he was saying to her, probably something like, "Your womb is as fertile as the Tennessee Valley", but they subtituted the word "You're" for "Your".

Yes, and it annoyed me. But the doctor was saying that she wasn't infertile, that Jin was and he was afraid to tell "a man who works for your father" that he was unable to have a baby.

What I want to know is: did Sun sleep with her English tutor, or didn't she? Is this another example of an island miracle, or is she just keeping the peace?
 
sarae said:
What I want to know is: did Sun sleep with her English tutor, or didn't she? Is this another example of an island miracle, or is she just keeping the peace?
Well, the answer of course is that they left that one up in the air and we're going to have to keep watching to find out. But if her English tutor is the baby's father then Sun's at least, what, two months pregnant? Would she not have been having symptoms before now?
 
sarae said:
Yes, and it annoyed me. But the doctor was saying that she wasn't infertile, that Jin was and he was afraid to tell "a man who works for your father" that he was unable to have a baby.

What I want to know is: did Sun sleep with her English tutor, or didn't she? Is this another example of an island miracle, or is she just keeping the peace?
I don't think the English tutor guy is the father... here's why:

The first season of Lost chronicled what? the first 40 or so days of the survivors? This second season has spanned about 20-30 days now... so,

40+20 = 60 days (2 months)

The English tutor guy would have had to have impregnated Sun no later than 60 days ago (and the timeline is unclear to when their last contact was, the scene shown in last night's episode could have been weeks, even months before Jin and Sun left for their trip). She should have started feeling sick sometime during the first season if this were the case.

That leaves two possibilities:

1) Sun and Jin conceived "miraculously".
2) Sun fooled around with another survivor (Michael?).

Nowhere was #2 implied, but there have been a couple scenes showing Sun and Jin being intimate.

I vote for #1: if Locke can be "miraculously" healed such that he can walk now, Sun and Jin "miraculously" conceiving a child shouldn't be beyond the Island/Dharma's powers, right?

Plus, remember that the doctor revealed that they were unable to conceive because of Jin... he never did mention whether it was due to Jin being completely sterile, or whether he just had a low sperm count.

EDIT: Lyle beat me to it. :)
 
stonyc said:
Plus, remember that the doctor revealed that they were unable to conceive because of Jin... he never did mention whether it was due to Jin being completely sterile, or whether he just had a low sperm count.

true, but the doctor was very forceful about it being non-reversable, and that's why he lied. if it was a treatable condition, i don't think he would have been afraid to tell Jin; after all there is medication & therapy for low sperm counts.
 
zach said:
true, but the doctor was very forceful about it being non-reversable, and that's why he lied. if it was a treatable condition, i don't think he would have been afraid to tell Jin; after all there is medication & therapy for low sperm counts.
Yep, good point.
 
stonyc said:
EDIT: Lyle beat me to it. :)
Well, you brought up a possibility that I hadn't really considered, which was that Sun may have been fooling around with another survivor (namely, Michael).

Right now I'm leaning towards the "Island cured Jin's infertility problem" theory. Probably because Sun's such a cutie pie and I don't want to imagine her catting around behind Jin's back. I guess the curious part is why Sun was afraid to tell Jin, and seems to be acting guilty about having become pregnant.
 
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