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jrv3034 said:
So, the island makes people see what they want? What they need? What they fear? A little of everything?


I thought the stuff that Locke put on Boone's head was what made him hallucinate. Kind of figured that it was all a dream, esp since Locke wanted Boone to get rid of his over-protectiveness.. certainly wouldn't put him in a situation to reinforce his big-brother feelings.
 
sarae said:
Anyone else see Sawyer fighting the police when Boone was in the Sydney police station?
How soon before we see a new flashback story about Sawyer as a young boy, hoarding plastic shovels and buckets in the sandbox and refusing to share unless somebody gives him their juice box?
 
I think the salve was just for infection... but the island (or something) makes you see things.

It will be interesting to find out how much Locke knows and how he knows it. We know he encountered the "thing" (monster, machine?) and he apparently was given some knowledge at that point, yet he still wants in the steel hatch, etc. He knows some things, but not everything.

Everybody has their own experiences to deal with... Jack with his dad (what's up with the empty coffin?), Boone with Shannon, Locke and his wheelchair. Strange though, some things are not real (Shannon's death), while others are, Locke walking. The polar bear was from the kids comic book, and looks like from the previews it may make another appearance, though I didn't get a good look.

How the island will deal with Kate and Sawyer's past will be interesting, as well as the others. The black lady still insists her husband is alive. We still have more to hear from the Koreans and the fellow with his son (as well as him with the Korean lady). Now Kate knows she speaks English too. I'm betting that the man knows English as well (Hurley even suggested it), and his wife doesn't know.

And what will we find out about the girl that was taken with the baby?
And what's under the hatch?
And where's the French woman now?

Aaaahhhhhh....
Too many story lines for me to keep up with!

Woof, Woof - Dawg
 
Figured out that Boone's experience was a hallucination and Shannon was still alive.

Will have to watch out for the kids comic book scene for future reference as I don't remember seeing it.

All in all, Lost is one of my favoriet shows right now.
 
MacDawg said:
I'm betting that the man knows English as well (Hurley even suggested it), and his wife doesn't know.

When Hurley was saying 'pee on my foot,' I'm sure that Jin clearly said 'No!' :eek:
 
It was a hallucination brought on by the paste Locke put on the dude's head.

The Korean fellow will turn out to speak english, something he has hidden from his wife, for the same reasons she has hidden her ability to speak english from her husband. They will find out about each other and hug.
 
sarae said:
Anyone else see Sawyer fighting the police when Boone was in the Sydney police station? I thought it was interesting how Boone almost saw Sawyer.. but didn't catch his face.

Ok so that WAS Sawyer...when I said that people looked at me like I was crazy!

Great episode, through me for a loop!

I too think Jin knows english as well, it is only a matter of time before we find out for sure...Hurley was crackin' me up this episode.

Looking forward to next week!
 
Nermal said:
When Hurley was saying 'pee on my foot,' I'm sure that Jin clearly said 'No!' :eek:

Yes, he did say "no". But I'm not sure that means he knows english. "No" and "yes" are probably the two english words most known throughout the world (next to "Mickey" and "Mouse"). I wouldn't be surprised at all if that's ALL the english Jin knows.

That was a funny scene, though! :D
 
yellow said:
It was a hallucination brought on by the paste Locke put on the dude's head.

The Korean fellow will turn out to speak english, something he has hidden from his wife, for the same reasons she has hidden her ability to speak english from her husband. They will find out about each other and hug.

I saw it coming until they went away to a commercial then I began to think it might have actually real. Then again 2 TV shows have written off whole seasons as dreams and another wrote off the whole show.

I figure the Korean man does speak English but was hiding it from his wife because he was preparing to quit his job with her father and then move to America. Probably won't come out until the last episode or sometime season 2.

I figure Locke knows it all already. :) That guy rocks. I saw that producer was somewhat inspired by Watership Down and you can sort of see it. I have to read that book again. When Locke was just sitting there watching the ocean I got such an impression of Fiver just sitting and watching.

Of course the names are something to watch for. John Locke, the philosopher... Sawyer, the con man...
 
MongoTheGeek said:
I saw it coming until they went away to a commercial then I began to think it might have actually real. Then again 2 TV shows have written off whole seasons as dreams and another wrote off the whole show.
Oooooh, is this a trivia test?

Hmmm..... On the show "Dallas", Bobby Ewing stepped out of the shower and his wife Pam discovered she had dreamt the whole season. And the final episode of "Newhart" had Bob waking up with Suzanne Pleshette, his wife on his former TV show, proving that he had dreamt the whole new series. Are those the ones you mean? What's the third one?
 
Doctor Q said:
Oooooh, is this a trivia test?

Hmmm..... On the show "Dallas", Bobby Ewing stepped out of the shower and his wife Pam discovered she had dreamt the whole season. And the final episode of "Newhart" had Bob waking up with Suzanne Pleshette, his wife on his former TV show, proving that he had dreamt the whole new series. Are those the ones you mean? What's the third one?

Married with Children. They flushed a season that featured Peggy and Marcy pregnant. Katy Segal had a miscarriage and out of respect for her feelings they called the whole season a dream. It was also the start of Bud as Grand Master B.
 
I can't get the feeling out of my head that they're making this series up as they go. It reminds me of an experiment on the BBC a few years back where ordinary viewers wrote in to suggest "what should happen next" to characters in a certain series, and each week, the writers obliged.

I had a nasty feeling for a while that they were going to bring in some awful religious storyline with Claire's baby turning out to be the Messiah, a la Tim LaHaye's appalling books.

Having said that, I do find it strangely compelling. I'm interested to see how they're going to explain away huge invisible monsters.
 
This show is starting to be a "train wreck" that I can't help but to stop and watch. I had high hopes for the series, but haven't seen anything to really be worth watching.

yet some here make it seem that i am truly missing something by not watching. In the end it is better than Medium or The Will.
 
MacDawg said:
The polar bear was from the kids comic book....

Really, am I missing something. Where did you get this reference from? :confused:

I have been watching LOST since the first eps, maybe I missed this reference if it was so right after a commercial.

Now you have me LOST with this comment. :eek:
 
maya said:
Really, am I missing something. Where did you get this reference from? :confused:

I have been watching LOST since the first eps, maybe I missed this reference if it was so right after a commercial.

Now you have me LOST with this comment. :eek:
In the Pilot episode (2nd hour), Walt's reading a comic book in Spanish, and on the pages a polar bear is seen. Almost right away, Sawyer and company encounter the polar bear in the jungle as they're heading toward higher ground, to see if they can pick up anything on the transceiver.

There are other examples in the show of characters "wishing" for something to happen shortly before it happens: Walt always rolls the dice that he needs when playing backgammon, Walt wants it to stop raining (so his dad Michael can go look for the dog) and it stops raining, Locke predicts that it's about to START raining and it does, etc. There's a theory that something on the island is manifesting the hopes, fears, etc. of those on the island.
 
clayjohanson said:
In the Pilot episode (2nd hour), Walt's reading a comic book in Spanish, and on the pages a polar bear is seen. Almost right away, Sawyer and company encounter the polar bear in the jungle as they're heading toward higher ground, to see if they can pick up anything on the transceiver.

There are other examples in the show of characters "wishing" for something to happen shortly before it happens: Walt always rolls the dice that he needs when playing backgammon, Walt wants it to stop raining (so his dad Michael can go look for the dog) and it stops raining, Locke predicts that it's about to START raining and it does, etc. There's a theory that something on the island is manifesting the hopes, fears, etc. of those on the island.

Wow thank you, I can't believe I missed that reference in regards to the polar bear. :eek:

That does explain as to why the pilot was pulled by "the thing". :confused:

I believe I will have to start watching the show more carefully, since I had a feeling what the under pinning of this show is about however am missing some of and I am not sure if I am even missing many references.

Time to watch it from esp 1. :) <-- this show is addicting. :)
 
maya said:
Wow thank you, I can't believe I missed that reference in regards to the polar bear. :eek:

That does explain as to why the pilot was pulled by "the thing". :confused:

I believe I will have to start watching the show more carefully, since I had a feeling what the under pinning of this show is about however am missing some of and I am not sure if I am even missing many references.

Time to watch it from esp 1. :) <-- this show is addicting. :)
Yeah, you need to watch carefully, as there are little clues sprinkled all over the place. It's shaping up to be quite a bit like Babylon 5, although it remains to be seen how long they can stretch this out.

As to "the thing": It killed the pilot. It DIDN'T kill Locke. Think about that. And think about the fact that Locke's legs started working the instant he arrived on the island. He's figuring out "how things work", moreso than anyone else, and this will make him a potent force for either Good or Evil as time progresses.
 
Chip NoVaMac said:
You hit on something that i think might make more sense for some of us. And that is for this show to be done in two hour segments. Sort of like a "super"mini series.
Guess that'll be possible when the show's released on DVD. :)

The original pilot was only (!) 84 minutes in length, as an hour of network TV consists of 42 minutes of show and 18 minutes of commercials and promos... split 84 minutes into two hours and you get 42 minutes of show per hour.
 
clayjohanson said:
Guess that'll be possible when the show's released on DVD. :)

The original pilot was only (!) 84 minutes in length, as an hour of network TV consists of 42 minutes of show and 18 minutes of commercials and promos... split 84 minutes into two hours and you get 42 minutes of show per hour.

In many ways I know this. I have bought at the local level, advertising. In some time spots you are looking at 10 to 13 minutes of ads.

The issue is that Lost may do better with a longer broadcast so that the continuity is not broken up as much.
 
Chip NoVaMac said:
In many ways I know this. I have bought at the local level, advertising. In some time spots you are looking at 10 to 13 minutes of ads.

The issue is that Lost may do better with a longer broadcast so that the continuity is not broken up as much.
Agreed, but then you only get 11 or 13 weeks of shows, as opposed to 22 or 26, per season. And you tick off a lot of viewers who expect the show to be on at the same time each week. If you have a DVR, you could record the shows and then watch them all at once, I suppose. :) Or you could wait for the DVDs to come out... then you wouldn't have to skip past all of the commercials.
 
clayjohanson said:
Agreed, but then you only get 11 or 13 weeks of shows, as opposed to 22 or 26, per season. And you tick off a lot of viewers who expect the show to be on at the same time each week. If you have a DVR, you could record the shows and then watch them all at once, I suppose. :) Or you could wait for the DVDs to come out... then you wouldn't have to skip past all of the commercials.

In this day and age one needs to think beyond the traditional "schedule". HBO has had great success in "shorter" runs.
 
Okay clearly I haven't been visiting MR enough. How did I miss this thread? I am a huge fan of Lost. I've been TiVo-ing it since the pilot. I watch it every weekend (I work weeknights) with the wife, and it's great. I think it has the most richly developed, interesting characters on network television. And I don't get offended by supernatural storylines.

clayjohanson said:
In the Pilot episode (2nd hour), Walt's reading a comic book in Spanish, and on the pages a polar bear is seen. Almost right away, Sawyer and company encounter the polar bear in the jungle as they're heading toward higher ground, to see if they can pick up anything on the transceiver.

There are other examples in the show of characters "wishing" for something to happen shortly before it happens: Walt always rolls the dice that he needs when playing backgammon, Walt wants it to stop raining (so his dad Michael can go look for the dog) and it stops raining, Locke predicts that it's about to START raining and it does, etc. There's a theory that something on the island is manifesting the hopes, fears, etc. of those on the island.
This reminds me of something -- hopefully someone can confirm it for me. Early on, Locke tells Walt a secret. Do we ever find out what the secret is? I don't recall any scene in which someone says what it is. But clearly you've hit it on the nail. It explains why Walt was able to whip Hurley at backgammon, even though Hurley fancies himself a pro at it. Now the episode where Jack sees his father makes more sense. Interesting to note that the teaser for next week includes a scene with a polar bear -- and Walt.



A few other thoughts, having just read the whole thread:

* With respect to the tide suddenly rising higher than before... What a bunch of landlubbers you all are. I'm no mariner myself, but I believe tides are seasonal, higher at certain times of year than others. But of course, it probably has a mystical, deeper meaning than something so trivial. I frequently forget that they have only been on the island, supposedly, for about two or three weeks. Probably not enough to experience a new season.

Actually, my first thought was maybe the story had been rewritten slightly to account for the tsunami, and they were experiencing a low grade version of it way out in the Pacific. But obviously that's not it.

* Am I the only one deeply bothered by the fact that the rest of the survivors are just milling about the island doing trivial things while Claire is still in the jungle with that psycho doing God-only-knows-what with her and her baby? I can't believe they'd just give up like that. For the most part, I think the writing has been excellent, but this part doesn't add up for me.

* This is a pretty big island. Easily ten miles across, probably more. Islands that big and lush in the Pacific don't get so completely overlooked. Why is it virtually uninhabited? There would at least be a native tribe or something.

My theory has been that it's used for military purposes. Perhaps the weirdness is all part of a military experiment gone awry? That would explain the hatch. On the other hand, this week's episode with the bit about the compass being off, makes me wonder if it's more of a Bermuda Triangle type of anomaly, and the island could be in another dimension or time or something.
 
Awimoway said:
* With respect to the tide suddenly rising higher than before... What a bunch of landlubbers you all are. I'm no mariner myself, but I believe tides are seasonal, higher at certain times of year than others. But of course, it probably has a mystical, deeper meaning than something so trivial. I frequently forget that they have only been on the island, supposedly, for about two or three weeks. Probably not enough to experience a new season.

Actually, my first thought was maybe the story had been rewritten slightly to account for the tsunami, and they were experiencing a low grade version of it way out in the Pacific. But obviously that's not it.
Actually, tides in that region of the Pacific Ocean (Fiji/Tahiti area) are the lowest anywhere on the planet... I believe this is because of being closer to the center of the ocean. Tahiti experiences virtually no tides at all. (Of course, this assumes that the island is actually near Fiji or Tahiti. Its actual location has not been established.)

Awimoway said:
* Am I the only one deeply bothered by the fact that the rest of the survivors are just milling about the island doing trivial things while Claire is still in the jungle with that psycho doing God-only-knows-what with her and her baby? I can't believe they'd just give up like that. For the most part, I think the writing has been excellent, but this part doesn't add up for me.
As you say a little further on, it's a BIG island, and it's covered mostly in tropical rainforest. Trying to find someone who's been abducted, by someone who presumably knows the island very well, would be even worse than looking for a needle in a haystack. So it actually makes sense that they would relax their efforts to find Claire and Ethan Rom.

Awimoway said:
* This is a pretty big island. Easily ten miles across, probably more. Islands that big and lush in the Pacific don't get so completely overlooked. Why is it virtually uninhabited? There would at least be a native tribe or something.
Again, you're assuming that the island is actually in the South Pacific. Maybe it's elsewhere, or elsewhen.
 
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