Ok. I have officially dropped the show now.
Im done. Im convinced the writers have nothing more to say.
Im done. Im convinced the writers have nothing more to say.
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Lost (TV show)
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I have to say, I am disappointed with a lot of you for giving up faith in the show just because there are still mysteries yet to be solved.
After all, Babylon 5, another great show, was still introducing mysteries right up until its last season... even as some mysteries would be solved (for example, why don't Vorlons let anyone see what they look like?), new ones would be introduced (what's up between the Vorlons and the Shadows?). Once all of the mysteries have been solved, that's the end of the show, you know. We've seen the same pattern on Lost... some mysteries have been solved, but new ones have been laid out for us.
Now, if the show ends and there are still unanswered questions, then I will be disappointed.
After all, Babylon 5, another great show, was still introducing mysteries right up until its last season... even as some mysteries would be solved (for example, why don't Vorlons let anyone see what they look like?), new ones would be introduced (what's up between the Vorlons and the Shadows?). Once all of the mysteries have been solved, that's the end of the show, you know. We've seen the same pattern on Lost... some mysteries have been solved, but new ones have been laid out for us.
Now, if the show ends and there are still unanswered questions, then I will be disappointed.
I thought episode 5 was great. You people have to understand something - Lost is slow because it still has ground-work to lay for the season. Most of the main characters, the people who held the camp together, are gone now. Think about this. If Lost were real, would everyone rise up together and move on over-night if most of their leaders were captured? Maybe eventually, but it would take time to adjust. New leaders would slowly rise up. With Locke back, there isn't much of a need for that now. Locke's doing SOMETHING. He went to the monitoring station to talk to the others. That's slow, steady progress. I have a feeling we're going to see some cool stuff next week. It's the last episode until February. *cries*
I've never seen Alias, though. You guys could be right.
I've never seen Alias, though. You guys could be right.
I feel like I'm seeing the same character relationship issues redone. Ben already played up the Jack/Locke dominant/submissive or leader/follower thing and now Jack is trying to do it to Ben and the girl.
I wouldn't mind except that everything else is so muddled right now that I'm left to pay attention to the character interactions.
At least Kate and Sawyer have been interesting lately. I thought it was great that she told Sawyer, "I only said that so he would stop hitting you." The delivery on that line was so dismissive. Loved it.
I wouldn't mind except that everything else is so muddled right now that I'm left to pay attention to the character interactions.
At least Kate and Sawyer have been interesting lately. I thought it was great that she told Sawyer, "I only said that so he would stop hitting you." The delivery on that line was so dismissive. Loved it.
Jeez...
The smoke monster really put a beating on Mr. Eko...
The new babe is pretty nice, not much of an actress though... She seems out of place like a soap actress...
The smoke monster really put a beating on Mr. Eko...
The new babe is pretty nice, not much of an actress though... She seems out of place like a soap actress...
New actress and actor are junk. You can enter in new characters and do it well, or just have it cliched and junk. Wonder why they chose the latter?
Terrible episode. I don't understand why I get so excited about it... oh yes. the distant hope that maybe questions will be answered. I'm sick of this guessing game now.
Oh and the cryptic chats are doing my face in.
Terrible episode. I don't understand why I get so excited about it... oh yes. the distant hope that maybe questions will be answered. I'm sick of this guessing game now.
Oh and the cryptic chats are doing my face in.
it was kinda annoying how those 2 random people just came to the Pearl, but man why ecko, anybody but ecko
That monster is crazy, anyone notice it kinda formed a fist when it killed ecko. And how about that pirate that showed up on the TV in the Pearl argh
That monster is crazy, anyone notice it kinda formed a fist when it killed ecko. And how about that pirate that showed up on the TV in the Pearl argh
It looks like the only way to stop the writers from adding 3 mysteries for every one they explain is to have ABC cancel the show and tell them they have a few episodes left to wrap it up.
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Funny story. I'm on some medication (wont bore you with the details) that makes me a little drowsy. I also have been taking Ambien (sleeping pills) to help me get to sleep lately. They dont usually seem to have much of an effect on me. Nothing drastic anyway.
So... I take the medication last night, turn on the tivo and watch Lost. I was so disappointed today thinking of how lame the episode was and how Im ready to stop watching, blah blah blah. Now that I read some of these posts and have visited some other sites Im coming to realize that I barely remember a darn thing about last nights episode. Ecko got the beat down? The only thing I really remember is that the hut he was in burned down... He stole some food as a kid... Locke wanted to use a computer or something...
Guess Ill start taking my medication AFTER I watch my favorite shows.
So... I take the medication last night, turn on the tivo and watch Lost. I was so disappointed today thinking of how lame the episode was and how Im ready to stop watching, blah blah blah. Now that I read some of these posts and have visited some other sites Im coming to realize that I barely remember a darn thing about last nights episode. Ecko got the beat down? The only thing I really remember is that the hut he was in burned down... He stole some food as a kid... Locke wanted to use a computer or something...
Guess Ill start taking my medication AFTER I watch my favorite shows.
Exactly which mysteries have been solved? We got into the hatch (finally!) to discover... uhh... a computer, and some big magnetic thing, and it did... something. And the others, we've discovered, live in a little village and have reading groups and dig holes and do... stuff... in a sub...
Every once in a while the writers do throw us a bone, letting us know that the others live on another island, which was exactly what no one expected, or cared about, which is why it gives no satisfaction whatsoever to find this out.
And that, I think, is why I keep watching... the way things are going, I expect it'll be over soon. There are so many dangling threads, it will be incredible if they are able to tie everything up in any satisfying way.
The most annoying thing at the moment is the wasted backstories on characters who are now dead. What good did it do us to learn Ana Lucia's back story now that she's dead? What grand connection did we learn in Eko's stories that we couldn't have done without?
I realize to avoid the Star Trek cliche of "Kirk, Spock, Bones, and Ensign Billy" they have to round out the characters that they are killing off but for what we know now they people they've killed could have died in the plane crash and we would be in exactly the same place as we are now.
I'm hoping that the show's creators know what they are doing and will have some great unifying theory that will make me eat my words and say it was all brilliant but given what we've seen so far this season I'm not holding my breath.
As for solved mysteries we've had a few major ones I can think of.
1) we now know that Desmond not pushing the button caused the plane to crash.
2) we now know that pushing the button actually did something rather than just a psychological experiment (although it didn't destroy the planet so why Dharma didn't just use the failsafe key and kill the hatch years ago is a mystery).
3) we know there is an outside world and at least one person is looking for the island.
Of course we learned all of this in the span of 1-3 episodes of last seaon. Which tells me if this were a 7 year story arc they could compress it to one really good season or 7 seasons with 3 good episodes apiece.
I'm losing my patience but cannot get myself to quit due to my hope of good explanations.
I realize to avoid the Star Trek cliche of "Kirk, Spock, Bones, and Ensign Billy" they have to round out the characters that they are killing off but for what we know now they people they've killed could have died in the plane crash and we would be in exactly the same place as we are now.
I'm hoping that the show's creators know what they are doing and will have some great unifying theory that will make me eat my words and say it was all brilliant but given what we've seen so far this season I'm not holding my breath.
As for solved mysteries we've had a few major ones I can think of.
1) we now know that Desmond not pushing the button caused the plane to crash.
2) we now know that pushing the button actually did something rather than just a psychological experiment (although it didn't destroy the planet so why Dharma didn't just use the failsafe key and kill the hatch years ago is a mystery).
3) we know there is an outside world and at least one person is looking for the island.
Of course we learned all of this in the span of 1-3 episodes of last seaon. Which tells me if this were a 7 year story arc they could compress it to one really good season or 7 seasons with 3 good episodes apiece.
I'm losing my patience but cannot get myself to quit due to my hope of good explanations.
it was kinda annoying how those 2 random people just came to the Pearl, but man why ecko, anybody but ecko
Funny, when Eko was beside the river I thought the smoke took on a 'bear' shape. And the way the smoke attacked him after seeing his brother, just makes me think that the smoke is everything bad/strange on the island.
The ONLY interesting bit I got from that episode?
Locke saying that when he saw "it", it was a bright light.. beautiful.
A lie? A cover up? A refusal to see what is true (black smoke = evil?)?
Locke saying that when he saw "it", it was a bright light.. beautiful.
A lie? A cover up? A refusal to see what is true (black smoke = evil?)?
Mysteries from season 1 have not been explained, mainly the creatures roaming the forest (swaying trees, etc). There are more of course, but so many more I'm struggling to remember if people got dragged underground, but I might be confusing Lost with Time Machine. It's gotten that bad.
Agreed about the wasted back-stories, what lousy fillers. And the music don't help any, especially trying to create suspense where there is none. I believe the success of Lost is due to its soundtrack; the ability to create superficial suspense for naught.
Agreed about the wasted back-stories, what lousy fillers. And the music don't help any, especially trying to create suspense where there is none. I believe the success of Lost is due to its soundtrack; the ability to create superficial suspense for naught.
I think it was indicated that the black smoke was responsible for the swaying trees and monster noises in the last episode.
One of my friends who was a die hard fan does not watch it anymore, i feel for him. In in seasons we have learned as much as half a season from another show. The story is great, the plot is amazing, the whole thing is great but its stretched waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to long. I want more and if nothing happens soon i will stop aswell. I will not just watch a season of a tv show just to see 3 great episodes.
With iTunes plus DVD rentals, I'm finally caught up.
I adore Season 1, and most of Season 2. The last episode of Season 2 was awesome.
As for Season 3 - Well, a lot remains to be seen. I would sure like some answers back from Season 1.
The new chick, Juliette - I don't buy any of the stuff she's feeding Jack. I also think Ben telling Jack about how he busted the Others' plan to "break him" is just another measure of control.
I adore Season 1, and most of Season 2. The last episode of Season 2 was awesome.
As for Season 3 - Well, a lot remains to be seen. I would sure like some answers back from Season 1.
The new chick, Juliette - I don't buy any of the stuff she's feeding Jack. I also think Ben telling Jack about how he busted the Others' plan to "break him" is just another measure of control.
The worst part? Tonight is a 'cliffhanger' and then a hiatus until March or something. Just enough time for me to completely dis the show forever.
I have this suspicion that the island is actually Atlantis (remember the 3 toed statue & now the fact that the islands may be invisible) - being covered up by the government. The interesting thing is that the magnetism of the "crash site island" may have been interupted and it is possibly visible now.
I suspect the black smoke is something similar to "the ID monster" from Forbidden Planet and possibly the undoing of the original Atlantis inhabitants just as they were on Valarathon 4 in Forbidden Planet.
ALL of the backstories are tied together - there is a calculated reason why almost every person on the plane is there. It is my belief that there is a plant at the Australian airport where they departed that places people intentionally on planes and the planes are intentionally routed over the islands.
Ana Lucia is tied to Jack's father, which is central for the reason Jack was in Australia. Eko's story is there to add drama - ie introduce the Polar bear and explain that the cage that Sawyer is in + explain some of the monster noises. It also shows that possibly the smoke is a hallucination and ties that into drugs and the supernatural - but my suspicion is that it's real. (see above)
I suspect the black smoke is something similar to "the ID monster" from Forbidden Planet and possibly the undoing of the original Atlantis inhabitants just as they were on Valarathon 4 in Forbidden Planet.
ALL of the backstories are tied together - there is a calculated reason why almost every person on the plane is there. It is my belief that there is a plant at the Australian airport where they departed that places people intentionally on planes and the planes are intentionally routed over the islands.
Ana Lucia is tied to Jack's father, which is central for the reason Jack was in Australia. Eko's story is there to add drama - ie introduce the Polar bear and explain that the cage that Sawyer is in + explain some of the monster noises. It also shows that possibly the smoke is a hallucination and ties that into drugs and the supernatural - but my suspicion is that it's real. (see above)
You're right, yellow. As big a fan as I was, I'm afraid tonight may end up being the last Lost for me. Man, I hope JJ Abrhams and his cronies realise the discontempt among the audience and do something about it after this hiatus. If not, they're done.
My wife and I have missed most of the last two shows and see no real need to try and catch up. This show may have officially been lost on us (pun is intended )
The endless twists with little results has killed it for us.
)The endless twists with little results has killed it for us.
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