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Some people get very defensive when problems with Apple products are discussed. Because apparently that's not what these forums are for. :rolleyes:

I don't know how many times in the OP I reiterated that I understand this is a first gen product and expected this. Regardless, the very first reply to my thread was "Well you have to expect that with a first gen product".

Do people not read?

Hah, I teach and, trust me, it is common for both kids and their parents not to read what you write or even listen to what you say!
 
I totally disagree regarding Siri, it is working like a charm here even in a noisy environment. I was very surprised the first time because I was used to have problems with Siri on my iPhone.
 
Yes I agree that the watch isn't perfect but I think it's astoundingly good for a first generation product especially if you have everything set up correctly. Phone calls text messages emails and notifications. It all seems to work flawlessly. The watch can only get better and I'm definitely sold on this as a first generation product
 
Love my watch, but it definitely feels like a first gen product

Not sure what you are looking for, but what I do when in an activity is move to the heart rate display (I have my settings so that when I turn on the screen, it always goes to wherever I left off rather than resuming the clock). Then any time I want to see the heart rate, I just raise my wrist or tap the screen and it's right there every time.


If you don't have the option ticked to resume the last used app when you raise your wrist, does this stop the workout app from displaying as soon as you raised your wrist?
I thought this was one of the apps that overrides the last used app setting regardless. I don't have my watch at the moment to check.
 
Yes I agree that the watch isn't perfect but I think it's astoundingly good for a first generation product especially if you have everything set up correctly. Phone calls text messages emails and notifications. It all seems to work flawlessly. The watch can only get better and I'm definitely sold on this as a first generation product

I've gotten to the realization that all technological products of every generation have issues. Even my 6+ has issues from time to time especially at when I got it at launch with the launch OS. Software updates will refine the experience and future gen hardware will refine the look And capabilities but they will all have issues one way or another.
 
I think for a few updates this watch is going to make a great Jailbreak watch. Goes over good on the jail broke watch will trickle down to a update from Apple.

This looks like a good thread for this. And maybe someone can point out a "problem" that I'm wrong about!

First, really like the watch and I certainly don't expect everything to be ideal yet - and for some things it may be impossible to avoid compromises anyway. With that in mind, here are the things that bother me a little.

1. I am finding that for my usage, I really wish the time would display always. I know, battery limits and all so I'm not faulting Apple. I want to be able to look at the time without making it obvious sometimes or just not have to make an excessive movement.

However, I wonder, especially as the power issue improves, if there isn't a possible solution. As I understand it, the black pixels take no power. So, what if they gave at least on option for a special watch face just for this that is really simple. I'm thinking of a very thin hour and minute hand image (no seconds). It would take a very low number of pixels and maybe so few that power cost would be fine for most people (again, this would just be an option people could choose). A thin digital readout could work too, but that would take more pixels. I suppose updating the screen is part of the power issue too so just update it every minute. Much like those central clocks in some businesses (or my old school) used to do. Every minute, the minute hand would click over to the next minute. If this cost me 15 minutes of battery life, I'd be happy with that.

2. Maybe I missed something, but it seems when looking at any of the digital clock displays, you only get hours and minutes - no seconds. On the traditional dial faces, you have the second hand, but nothing on the digital options. This seems really odd since we have a watch that is accurate to milliseconds, yet can only see the most recent full minute! Surely they can fix that!

3. I like lots of info available to me so I use the Modular display even though it isn't very pretty. I do not understand why they time must always be in that one spot. If nothing else, I can see a lot of people who would want the time to be in the biggest spot with bigger numbers. But, ultimately, I just want as many options as possible so that pretty much all of them can be put in any spot. For that matter, if someone wants a display with no time at all, that should be possible.

3. I wouldn't mind a complication that showed my HR the last time the watch checked it (10 minutes apart normally and 1 minute during activity).

4. I'm find some quirks on the raise to turn on display. Unlike most people, I think, I wore mine to bed. I'm not sure what the exact input it is looking for from the various movement sensors, but it seems quite difficult to find the "right" way to move your arm to get it to turn on. Of course, you can always tap it, but at least when I'm lying on my side, just moving my arm various ways usually doesn't work. It is possible this is unavoidable - that if they made it handle that situation, it would turn on too often in others.

5. I am finding problems with 3rd party apps, but since they will need time to figure out how to work with the system, I just don't worry about them for now.
 
It's not, it's actually super easy. It just would be even easier if it just worked by raising your wrist, kinda like how :apple:Pay works on the iPhone, just pops up near NFC.

They probably took that out due to battery life. Because now NFC has to remain on in "Always listening" mode. On iPhone it doesn't seem to be an issue because it has a larger battery.
 
But on the phone you also have to use Touch ID to actually authorize the payment (not to mention the fact that you are unlikely to have your phone next to a terminal unless you intend to use it to pay for something). With the watch, you could be trying to pay with a card, for example, and accidentally trigger an NFC payment just because your hand was near the terminal. Heck, in some settings it might theoretically be possible to accidentally pay for the order of the person standing next to you. I'm fine with having to make it absolutely clear that you intend to use Apple Pay. What's so hard about pressing a button twice, anyway?
 
Ok, this call volume issue is driving me up the wall. It's seriously too damn quiet, and my hearing is really good. When supply finally catches up with demand I'll take it into the Apple store and try to compare it with the ones they have. I really feel like it's abnormally quiet.
 
. What's so hard about pressing a button twice, anyway?

I read a professional-type review the other day where the reviewer decided to return his watch saying, among other things, that he was "very disappointed" that he had to push a button twice to use ApplePay. I suppose he is a very busy man and simply doesn't have the time or energy to do all that, not to mention the intense concentration executing such a task requires.
 
If you don't have the option ticked to resume the last used app when you raise your wrist, does this stop the workout app from displaying as soon as you raised your wrist?
I thought this was one of the apps that overrides the last used app setting regardless. I don't have my watch at the moment to check.

I'm not positive, but I believe if you don't have that option ticked that you always go back to the watch face, but it may be different for this specific app. I think I read something about it but not sure.
 
Yes, some apps like Workout (and I think Maps?) override the setting, since it's assumed that you'll want to be referring back to them during your current activity.
 
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