Also, am I the only one who notices that sidebar attracts more focus than the content? It's like the sidebar screams "look at me".
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Also, am I the only one who notices that sidebar attracts more focus than the content? It's like the sidebar screams "look at me".
No you aren’t the only one
Through the whole OS the UI is stealing space and focus from apps and content
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No. This is what it used to look like: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...macos-needs-to-catch-up.2458545/post-33952920
it never looked like that for me:
this was beta 1 on my MacBook
I think the image you linked may be without gpu acceleration?
omg my head is going to explode with all these capsules and dirty looking, distracting, drop shadows all over the place.
Just leave sidebars and toolbars on the same "level" as the rest of the content.
This forced "floating over everything" is ridiculous.
Just leave sidebars and toolbars on the same "level" as the rest of the content.
This forced "floating over everything" is ridiculous.
It's quite the opposite for me. My focus is immediately drawn to the photo and text underneath, with the sidebar a secondary (if not tertiary) element.
My immediate thought is "why is that huge sidebar hovering over my photo"?
This concept of "blurry hints of stuff underneath that shows through" adds nothing but visual confusion and clutter.
They are drunk on "immersive" BS kool-aid over in Cupertino.
And I assume they are going to "fix" the top buttons, as they are so transparent as to be almost invisible and unusable.
UI stuff that works inside a 3D VR headset... works because you are inside a 3D VR headset.
I just looked at the drop down bookmarks in Safari's address bar and Safari's menubar drop downs and it doesn't matter if I have selected Reduce Transparency in System Settings/Accessibility/Display or not. They look the same. So, they are doing transparency in some apps whether you select to reduce it or not. It's not crazy bad in Safari but, I do think we should have a choice. Or maybe have a slider for how much transparency we want.
Here's a comparison of Finder in Beta 1 vs. Beta 4:
Is it better?
Beta 1
Beta 4
I do see some improvements:
* in a background window, in beta 4 the sidebar uses disabled colors
* the status bar (at the bottom) gets the window background, not the sidebar color
To my eye, this is "less horrible" but is it good?
Is it better?
Beta 1
Beta 4
I do see some improvements:
* in a background window, in beta 4 the sidebar uses disabled colors
* the status bar (at the bottom) gets the window background, not the sidebar color
To my eye, this is "less horrible" but is it good?
Marginally improved. Still not even close to good.
The rounding is just over-the-top ridiculous.
The rounding is just over-the-top ridiculous.
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Agreed. The increased rounding has zero benefit to the user, and actually reduces the amount of visible content in said window. The worst part is that some users are defending this.
Some one said corner radius of the windows has been decreased. That above looks the same to me.
All in all, I knew what was there in Beta 1 was mostly here to stay. When was the last time Apple previewed something and by the release time it looked completely different? Maybe with Mac OS X developer beta which looked completely different at release.
All in all, I knew what was there in Beta 1 was mostly here to stay. When was the last time Apple previewed something and by the release time it looked completely different? Maybe with Mac OS X developer beta which looked completely different at release.
Yes, I saw someone claiming that in another post and was confused as the radius seems unchanged from B3. Overlaying the above two images shows that they’re identical so not sure how that poster came to that conclusion.
Looks terrible. Tahoe might be the first new OS release that I don't upgrade to on release day.
It’s really not that bad. I held off until B3 as I was not liking what I was seeing in screenshots, but after installing it I’ve actually been really impressed. It runs really well and the UI changes aren’t nearly as bad as they seem. I run a 34” 5k2k ultrawide and scale up one click from the macOS default scaling, and whilst the new UI elements and padding are a little bit bigger than Sequoia, I have adjusted pretty quick. B4 brings some further refinement to the point I’m actually preferring Tahoe now.
It's definitely an acquired taste. But that doesn't mean it's not a cluster**** of wrong user experience decisions.
Some of the screenshots just make me laugh. How did we get here? 🙈
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Attached: 1 image That playback bar though is *wild*
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Some of the screenshots just make me laugh. How did we get here? 🙈
Steve Troughton-Smith (@stroughtonsmith@mastodon.social)
Attached: 1 image That playback bar though is *wild*
It’s totally insane.
Nobody internally should find that “ok”