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that was a mistake, I've fixed it so they are identical. you still lose a column in Tahoe because the sidebar and preview are larger

Have you tried resizing the sidebar? I shrunk mine down to give more space to the actual content in the Finder windows..

(Top window resized, bottom original/default sidebar width)

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Unless something's state of affairs is less than optimal already, methinks. Mac OS', and frankly, most other designs out there, including the Web, have been subpar since the advent of the 'flat' aesthetic.

Microsoft may have started that, but theirs was a mostly text-based implementation, which served the purpose of legibility. Apple and company followed by stripping their UIs heavily relying on graphics of both the text labels and the graphics themselves. Oversimplification is still an -over.

P.S. As much as I respect Sir Jony, putting him in charge of Apple's UI design instead of the actual expert Forstall was, and doing so out of spite over some internal 'beef', was a 'red flag' already.
Couldn’t agree more.  seems stuck between the old whimsy and the Ives stench. There are elements of the new design that harken something akin to the old Aqua, and yet the removal of the Mickey Mouse glove pointer as an example seems to counter it. The worst aspect is the lack of dynamic affordance in so many areas. One of the worst additions was tappable text elements replacing objects in iOS 7. It seems like there is a branch of the old guard working against the Ives worshippers. Heck the podcast app in iOS 26 has returned the tortoise and hare icons from the speed controls that were in iOS 6! Time will tell how this plays out. Opinionated design vs. customization another variable.
 
I don't know, on one side it looks like a touch based interface as it screams touch this, on the other it looks like a fancy Linux window manager.

It's a wierd feeling.

Those rounded corners....ugh!
Isn't Linux the best when it comes to window managers? Both Mac OS & Windows have been lagging behind it in that respect for a long time now. Why not catch up? Since Linux is another *nix-based system, it would seem like a natural source of inspiration for the Mac.
 
Isn't Linux the best when it comes to window managers? Both Mac OS & Windows have been lagging behind it in that respect for a long time now. Why not catch up? Since Linux is another *nix-based system, it would seem like a natural source of inspiration for the Mac.
I seriously doubt Linux is the best in windows management… but hey to each his own
 
Isn't Linux the best when it comes to window managers? Both Mac OS & Windows have been lagging behind it in that respect for a long time now. Why not catch up? Since Linux is another *nix-based system, it would seem like a natural source of inspiration for the Mac.
What features of which Linux window manager do you think Windows and macOS are missing? My personal experience is that Windows is best, followed by macOS, then Linux, and it’s been that way ever since things like Aero Snap and Exposé were released.
 
What features of which Linux window manager do you think Windows and macOS are missing? My personal experience is that Windows is best, followed by macOS, then Linux, and it’s been that way ever since things like Aero Snap and Exposé were released.

I've never been able to get windows to work as well for me as macOS + amethyst

to be fair I don't spend enough time in windows to really figure it out ;)
 
Oh, I thought we were talking about what ships with the OS.

Anything is possible with third-party software.
 
What features of which Linux window manager do you think Windows and macOS are missing? My personal experience is that Windows is best, followed by macOS, then Linux, and it’s been that way ever since things like Aero Snap and Exposé were released.
What I mean is the variety of options. Per se, I don't find Linux or its desktop environments particularly appealing, but what you can do in terms of customisation is indubitably impressive.

Mac OS and Windows just can't keep up being locked down as they are, though the latter used to seriously try (and so did the former before Mac OS X).

Update: just realised we're talking window managers here. What I had in mind was desktop environment, though (~ UI as a whole).
 
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Isn't Linux the best when it comes to window managers? Both Mac OS & Windows have been lagging behind it in that respect for a long time now. Why not catch up? Since Linux is another *nix-based system, it would seem like a natural source of inspiration for the Mac.

There is no "universal" window manager for Linux though. Looking at Linux Mint alone, there are several different GUI/windowing systems available, all of which have different window management tools, commands, and functionality. You have Cinnamon, MATE, and Xfce as variants of Linux Mint, and Fedora offers even more variants including COSMIC, GNOME, KDE, LXQt and LXDE.
 
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You have Cinnamon, MATE, and Xfce as variants of Linux Mint, and Fedora offers even more variants including COSMIC, GNOME, KDE, LXQt and LXDE.

Those are desktop environments not window managers.

For context, in macOS the desktop environment is Aqua and the default window manager is Quartz Compositor

You can use alternate window managers like Amethyst, Rectangle, etc.

You cannot replace the desktop environment
 
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Isn't Linux the best when it comes to window managers? Both Mac OS & Windows have been lagging behind it in that respect for a long time now. Why not catch up? Since Linux is another *nix-based system, it would seem like a natural source of inspiration for the Mac.
I agree many Window managers on Linux has the focus follows mouse and don’t auto raise window on focus.
 
You can use alternate window managers like Amethyst, Rectangle, etc.
These are blunt tiling managers, not full-fledged alternative compositors.
Basically on macOS you cannot change much, just retrofit some bitterly missing features that every other decent OS has built-in.
 
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There is no "universal" window manager for Linux though. Looking at Linux Mint alone, there are several different GUI/windowing systems available, all of which have different window management tools, commands, and functionality. You have Cinnamon, MATE, and Xfce as variants of Linux Mint, and Fedora offers even more variants including COSMIC, GNOME, KDE, LXQt and LXDE.
Realistically, you’re talking about what comes as default on the most-used distro.

I can’t remember the exact percentage, but the overwhelming majority of users don’t change any default setting they don’t have to.
 
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These are blunt tiling managers, not full-fledged alternative compositors.
Basically on macOS you cannot change much, just retrofit some bitterly missing features that every other decent OS has built-in.

I stand corrected. I’m certainly not an expert

But amethyst, at least, can change a lot

It makes the is usable for me
 
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