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Poor tints? According to who? The iPad Airs screen is absolutely gorgeous. I've seen a much more consistent color temperature across all the Airs I've seen.

There have been some people posting that they received a iPad Air where the screen had a yellow tint to it. I have not seen any tint issue with my iPad Air.
 
You read it here first folks. You are not allowed to have an opinion, nor comments on what apple does. If you don't like it, I'm sure (s)he'll tell you to start your own electronics company and produce your own products instead.

"Any fool can criticize, condemn, and complain - and most fools do"

-Benjamin Franklin
 
New Post on front page suggestion

After a year still waiting for a post in the front page

"LG's burn-in an Samsung's yellowish tint displays on rMPB continues... even on new Haswell generation"
 
Please don't let this be an iPad 3 all over again

That's why they're not shipping them. Customers made it loud and clear that they wanted the next Mini to be retina, and Apple listened. The new Mini will have the display, but customers are going to have to wait until a quality product can be properly manufactured.
 
There have been some people posting that they received a iPad Air where the screen had a yellow tint to it. I have not seen any tint issue with my iPad Air.

Keyword: Some? Yea, the same thing happens every single year. Not to mention, sometimes its just as simple as the display needing time before the tint goes away, because its fresh off the assembly line. Its practically impossible for displays to be 100% uniform across millions of products. But for the majority of Airs I've seen, the color temperature is much more consistent than any other iPad.
 
It sounds to me as if the reporter got it garbled, confusing "screen burn" (definitely visible to users) vs. burn-in failure, which is a yield problem (and thus invisible to users).

"Burn-in" is just a test stage in electronics manufacturing. Since many failures exhibit themselves early in the product life, "burn-in" attempts to accelerate product aging in order to weed out the lemons. The product is run for a period (could be hours or days) at a simulated accelerated rate of usage, often at an elevated temperature. A "burn-in" problem says nothing about specific failure models; just that the yield is poor. This inevitably means even more testing is called for, rate of production is reduced, and the cost of manufacturing is excessive.
So the article in question has incorrect information because they misunderstood the information given to them? Would be nice if the article author fixed this up.
 
Hopefully Apple gets their screen quality/yields up on all their product lines, including the rMBP!

i have had to exchange multiple rMBP's due to image retention and/or yellow blotches on the screen.. among other issues like freezing and cracking.. apple's QC has really gone downhill. :(
 
Can someone who knows something about display technology/manufacturing explain why the yield is low? I'm assuming it's an automated assembly, yet still so many issues? Where does the uncertainty of the display quality come from?

I really don't know much about display technology/manufacturing but would like to understand this.
 
How reliable is ETNews? Or have people decided anything that gets reported is fact these days?
This website is MacRumors, not MacFacts. It's up to us, the readers to decide for ourself which articles are plausible and which are not.
 
People complaining because Apple might not be able to meet demand is kinda funny and sad at the same time. Especially those who already have an ipad.

I'm actually surprised it's not worse, because of all the people who just cant wait and need it on day 1...

Relax, its still a great product 1 or 2 months later.
 
I agree, especially considering it's thicker and heavier than the original mini. :(

I have no problem with thicker and heavier. What I want is bright clear image with a decent battery life.

I've found my new 5s to be too thin. Will get a Mophie for it as soon as they come out.
 
This is why buying Samsung products is the easiest way to make sure one gets a quality stuff. What's the point in buying Apple device and then worry if it has Samsung SSD, HD, RAM, battery and display? Just buy Samsung device and it will sure have all that.
 
There have been some people posting that they received a iPad Air where the screen had a yellow tint to it. I have not seen any tint issue with my iPad Air.

If the same % of people in the general population (people who don't post here) experienced issues declared by those on the forum here (claimed though almost never proven), Apple would cease to exist as a company because it would be so plagued with product issues as not to be able to sell enough quality ones to make up for all the returns. I've been buying Apple products for years and never ever experienced the issues discussed by such a large number of people here (or small number of very vocal people), that if you were actually to read the forums here first before buying anything Apple you'd *expect* there to be issues with your purchase, and that simply doesn't follow with the experience of people outside these forums, or with the success of Apple as a company.
 
If the same % of people in the general population (people who don't post here) experienced issues declared by those on the forum here (claimed though almost never proven), Apple would cease to exist as a company because it would be so plagued with product issues as not to be able to sell enough quality ones to make up for all the returns. I've been buying Apple products for years and never ever experienced the issues discussed by such a large number of people here (or small number of very vocal people), that if you were actually to read the forums here first before buying anything Apple you'd *expect* there to be issues with your purchase, and that simply doesn't follow with the experience of people outside these forums, or with the success of Apple as a company.

Yep.

Articles like this only ramp up the paranoia and lead to people scrutinizing their purchase to the Nth degree. Prepare yourselves for the inevitable and ubiquitous "I've returned 4 Minis and still have a yellow screen!" threads.

:cool:
 
Because it happens. My father's dog, bless its soul, was riddled with cancer. You wouldn't have been able to tell; she was bouncy, lively, and cute as a button. But it was still there, and I couldn't go on knowing that.

I'll admit, that's a bit of an extreme simile. Perhaps Jobs' 'wood you'll never see at the back of a cupboard' would have been more apt.

Apple continues to demonstrate that it is perfectly willing to sell seriously visually defective displays, but you think they'd hobble the launch of this product because of a "back of the cupboard" type non-visible problem?
 
Well, that does it. I'll surely be skipping this iPad mini. I have enough image retention on my Macbook Pro Retina. Not going to deal with more shoddy display tech from Apple in premium prices product.
 
Can someone who knows something about display technology/manufacturing explain why the yield is low? I'm assuming it's an automated assembly, yet still so many issues? Where does the uncertainty of the display quality come from?

I really don't know much about display technology/manufacturing but would like to understand this.

Every product component has variation in physical dimensions, chemical composition, and electrical performance. No two pieces are exactly alike. Product yield is the result of how tolerant the design is to these variations. As component specs approach micron or atomic levels, it becomes more and more difficult to assemble components that work together.
 
Keyword: Some? Yea, the same thing happens every single year. Not to mention, sometimes its just as simple as the display needing time before the tint goes away, because its fresh off the assembly line. Its practically impossible for displays to be 100% uniform across millions of products. But for the majority of Airs I've seen, the color temperature is much more consistent than any other iPad.

The glue issue doesn't apply to iPads, as they aren't glued.
 
So chances are Retina mini will not make it for Christmas this year.

Apple said November. They had no reason to say that if they were not sure.

All this may be bunk. Folks are freaking over an alleged comment about lack of stock by Tim Cook and trying to come up with a reason.

But Cook never said such a thing. He said they don't know what the demand will be like and it might be really high and there might not be enough stock for everyone that wants one right off. Not the same thing at all. They could launch with 20 million units and 21 million folks come calling to get one. At even half that,it's hardly a deficit in supply. Well not one that needs anything more than high demand to explain it
 
Apple said November. They had no reason to say that if they were not sure.

All this may be bunk. Folks are freaking over an alleged comment about lack of stock by Tim Cook and trying to come up with a reason.

But Cook never said such a thing. He said they don't know what the demand will be like and it might be really high and there might not be enough stock for everyone that wants one right off. Not the same thing at all. They could launch with 20 million units and 21 million folks come calling to get one. At even half that,it's hardly a deficit in supply. Well not one that needs anything more than high demand to explain it

I just hope we will actually be able to order and get it within a reasonable amount of time. If it says a vague December ship date, I'm OK with that. But I plan on hitting up the online Apple store as soon as we can order.
 
Everyone dismissed the problem on the MacBooks. /sarcastic smiley (because I'm on my phone and can't use the smileys) ;D

I'm waiting for next years line up where hopefully they just stick with Samsung for the displays.
 
I noticed how much Apple is trying to get more manufacturing done here on US soil which is a great thing- we need more jobs. But this iPad Mini retina is a hot mess. First of all, having Sharp supply them with the screens wasn't even the best decision in the first place. Sharp is such a crappy brand. Apple needs to manufacture their own parts here in the states where they can control the quality of the product. Come on Apple! Get with it!!!:mad:

Since when was sharp crappy?
 
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