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Apple just told me to return mine... and order another that my device can't work via wireless it can only work connected to phone. Hence my issue with LTE wasn't an LTE issue its a I can't disconnect properly from phone to utilize other.
 
profets said:
Yes, app-specific password per device and 2FA with Fastmail as well. As long as the iPhone is online somewhere (network doesn't matter), the Watch's mail client will work (over LTE or Wifi). But when the phone is off, mail app on Watch loses connection. You're not seeing this with the same setup?

edit: Had a bit of time so tried setting up mail again on iPhone (and watch). Completely wiped the mail account I had on the phone, and created a new app-specific password in fast mail. Set it up on the phone, it then showed up on the watch. Everything syncing quite instantly. I then put the phone into airplane mode, saw the Watch went to wifi, tried refreshing mail, and it eventually goes to the disconnected phone icon. For whatever reason the Watch with my mail account cannot act like a completely independent client. Not a big deal at the end of the day though, as I'm never really intentionally putting my phone into airplane mode. Usually it'll be when I leave it behind (but still online).
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My apologies profets, you are quite right - it does go to the red disconnected icon. I'm not sure what happened this morning when I tested it. I just remember seeing an inbox full of emails on the watch and probably assumed it was fetching directly, hence why I assumed it was using the login credentials from the iPhone.

Ah well, same as you - if I leave the phone behind it will be powered on and connected to the mobile network...
 
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mazanker, can you test a wifi app to see if they fucntion with your phone off? I'm interested = ) *Why I'm having to return mine* it will only use the phone for DATA and can't via Wireless or LTE /// -Get the Red Phone Icon-
 
mzanker said:
My apologies profets, you are quite right - it does go to the red disconnected icon. I'm not sure what happened this morning when I tested it. I just remember seeing an inbox full of emails on the watch and probably assumed it was fetching directly, hence why I assumed it was using the login credentials from the iPhone.

Ah well, same as you - if I leave the phone behind it will be powered on and connected to the mobile network...
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No worries. Honestly I don't think it's too big of a deal at the moment as I can't see why I'd be purposely powering off the phone while I'm out for a run or at an event.

Senfinger said:
mazanker, can you test a wifi app to see if they fucntion with your phone off? I'm interested = ) *Why I'm having to return mine* it will only use the phone for DATA and can't via Wireless or LTE /// -Get the Red Phone Icon-
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I don't have many 3rd party apps on my watch, but the few I tried weren't working. I think I saw somewhere someone was trying to list 3rd party apps that can work independently (over wifi or cellular). I'm going to look for some to try.
 
Senfinger said:
mazanker, can you test a wifi app to see if they fucntion with your phone off? I'm interested = ) *Why I'm having to return mine* it will only use the phone for DATA and can't via Wireless or LTE /// -Get the Red Phone Icon-
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Sure - just tried it and some apps show the red phone icon but others like Dark Sky, Stocks and iMessage work fine over WiFi with the phone off.
 
Thanks for all the testing guys, it'd be amazing to produce a list of what does and doesn't work in the various scenarios. Kinda wish Apple had done this.
 
mzanker said:
Sure - just tried it and some apps show the red phone icon but others like Dark Sky, Stocks and iMessage work fine over WiFi with the phone off.
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Apps that show the red phone icon are apps that are still from the watchOS 1 era - meaning they run on the iPhone and just display the content on the Watch. That's why they don't work without the iPhone. Native Watch apps work fine without the phone connected or in reach.
 
ps3zocker said:
Apps that show the red phone icon are apps that are still from the watchOS 1 era - meaning they run on the iPhone and just display the content on the Watch. That's why they don't work without the iPhone. Native Watch apps work fine without the phone connected or in reach.
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nippyjun said:
Don't all current apps have to be native. I thought Apple requires that.
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From what I recall, when watchOS 3 was announced last year, developers had the ability to allow apps to work directly with an internet connection instead of requiring a connection to the phone. I guess since it would be very uncommon for the Watch to be on wifi without the phone present very few made that change to their app.
 
Haha!!! Just got off the phone its now a known issue and they are working on it! = ) Will be included or should be included in the next patch within 2 weeks. = )
 
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I just had a long chat with Apple Support and they are taking it away to call me back in 2 business days....we'll see if they come back saying a patch is coming out as well.
 
fischersd said:
As for your home wifi - remember, only 802.11b/g/n at 2.4GHz. If you're using the same SSID for 5GHz/2.4GHz, then you may want to temporarily disable the 5GHz network, forget the network on your iPhone, then recreate it on your iPhone - then the watch will have the credentials it needs for the 2.4GHz network and you can re-enable the 5GHz band, it should be fine.
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Wow, I wish I had know this trick two years ago - I’ve had problems with this forever. Now connectivity is fixed on my S0, just in time for my S3 :)

Thanks for the insight!
 
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As for your home wifi - remember, only 802.11b/g/n at 2.4GHz. If you're using the same SSID for 5GHz/2.4GHz, then you may want to temporarily disable the 5GHz network, forget the network on your iPhone, then recreate it on your iPhone - then the watch will have the credentials it needs for the 2.4GHz network and you can re-enable the 5GHz band, it should be fine.
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Hi fischersd. I saw danmart's reply to your post and I'm trying to understand why this makes a difference.

I'm assuming the passwords for the 5GHz and 2.4GHz same-named SSID's are the same for your explanation above.

It may work temporarily to connect to 2.4 (but just as likely not), but in my experience, I can connect to any SSID that has the same password. There is no distinction on 5 vs 2.4 vs even what type of security the Wifi is using (WEP, WPA, etc.)... AFAIK, it simply looks at the SSID/passwd. Thanks for any insight.

[edit] I do understand that the AW can only handle 2.4GHz.
 
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