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@wicknix After a lot of attempts, I have found a way to flash USB drive to be readable for iMac G3, not the easiest thing.
Anyway, do you think I can manage to get accelaration working for the ATI Rage 128 Ultra using Lubuntu 12.04/Macubuntu? Or do I need to perform specific operation like intalling MESA 7?

Cheers.
 
I don't have anything with that card to know for sure, but I do believe by downgrading mesa it should be doable. I seem to recall about a year ago someone on this forum got it working. I'd check the Ubuntu powerpc faq wiki and search this forum. I'd look, but I'm at work on my phone. Hopefully someone with that card will chime in.

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Tested on a 1.33 17 "Radeon 9700 powerbook: Does not work.

It boots, the screen works for a while, then freezes, and the screen flashes black forever.

In the first post it says to type this:
"live radeon.agpmode=-1 radeon.modeset=1 video=offb:eek:ff nosplash"

But in iso, at the prompt, it says to type this:
"live video=radeon.agpmode=-1 video=radeon.modeset=1 offb:eek:ff nosplash"

And after a few boot attempts, it corrupted my pendrive's file system and will no longer boot (it will be necessary to reflash the iso to the pendrive with transmac or etcher)
 
The iso is incorrect. Late night's without proof reading got me. This threads post is correct with live radeon.agpmode=-1

Cheers
 
I'm having trouble restoring the macbuntu-remix-ppc.iso to a USB. First there's this message when I try to select the ISO for restore:
Could not get the list of volumes from the disk image. An unexpected error occurred. (OSStatus error -123.)
One time I managed to select the ISO but the restore failed with this error:
Could not open resources for image "/Users/philip/Desktop/macbuntu-remix-ppc.iso"
Could not find any scan information. The source image needs to be imagescanned before it can be restored.
Image needs to be scanned. Will restore as mounted disk image.

Operation failed…
Must the ISO be burnt to disc?
 
Thank you very much for the reply. I get an unspecific error message with Etcher. How should the USB be formatted? Following these instrux I've made it GUID Partition Map and MS-DOS (FAT32) but that's perhaps wrong.

Are you using Disk Utility? If so, try Etcher (on a modern Mac or PC) instead.

 
Hmm. While the DLSD can boot from GUID, APM is the scheme to use on PPC. That should not matter though as writing the iso to the stick will erase all previous contents.

You can try dd as last resort (from the DLSD itself if you like). Find out your stick's disk number from Disk Utility and then in Terminal, run

sudo diskutil unmountDisk /dev/disk1
sudo dd if=/path/to/macbuntu.iso of=/dev/disk1 bs=8192k


This assumes the usb's disk number is 1 - make sure to use the right one as dd does what it's told no questions asked. Change path to iso to match.
 
Weird, I tried both APM and GUID but Etcher simply says that the operation failed, and asks if the ISO is compressed.

Good old dd seems to have worked though — thank you for suggesting that.

Hmm. While the DLSD can boot from GUID, APM is the scheme to use on PPC. That should not matter though as writing the iso to the stick will erase all previous contents.

You can try dd as last resort (from the DLSD itself if you like). Find out your stick's disk number from Disk Utility and then in Terminal, run

sudo diskutil unmountDisk /dev/disk1
sudo dd if=/path/to/macbuntu.iso of=/dev/disk1 bs=8192k


This assumes the usb's disk number is 1 - make sure to use the right one as dd does what it's told no questions asked. Change path to iso to match.
 
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Well this is odd. I used dd to copy over both "macbuntu-remix-ppc.iso" and "lubuntu-16.04-remix-v2-ppc". That worked.

For both ISOs the USB is inaccessible in open firmware mode and I'm not able to boot. There's a message that the disk lacks the "Mac parts" or something to that effect. I used a variation of this command "boot usb0/disk:3,yaboot".

Then, suddenly, the identical boot command worked but when the boot began there was a prohibited symbol on the screen.

I'm evidently doing something wrong.
 
Usb will boot. Looks like you OF command is wrong. It should be: boot: usb0/disk@1:,\\yaboot (or usb1 depending which port you used). Also dd under osx is wonky. It works best from a Linux machine. Burning the iso is best, but usb boot does work.

Cheers
 
Thanks, I was out of writeable discs, or so I thought until I found one. So now I've managed to boot live from the DVD.

But how does the partitioning work? I have previously made a partition for Linux on my SSD (which also has Leopard and Tiger partitions made in Disk Utility) but I'm not sure how to proceed in the installer when I select that Linux partition.
 
Expanding on the previous post – I'm trying to install 16.04 on my 15" DLSD. Apologise for these rookie questions but reading installation guides that I've found online haven't cleared things up for me.

Here's the partition structure I created in Disk Utility:

Leopard
Tiger
Linux 1
Linux 2
Linux 3

I created the three Linux partitions with the intent to try a few distros.

I read earlier in this thread that I should shrink a partition to create space which I did, creating 45GB space in Linux 1.

The 16.04 installer gives me the option of "installing alongside" but I saw info online (at askubuntu I think) that this doesn't always work and risks breaking the OS X partitions. So I'm going for the Doing Something else route in the installer.

So here are my questions (and thanks for reading this far :) )

1. I am confused about the swap area. I use a Samsung PM851 mSATA SSD which is an oldish drive. I'm worried that using swap will degrade the SSD faster, and possibly unnecessarily. Should I use swap area?

2. If I do use swap, am I right that it should be set up as "Primary" and at the "Beginning of this space"?

3. I read somewhere here in the PowerPC forum that it's a good idea to have a data partition in addition to the Linux OS partition. Which settings should these partitions use – Ext4, Primary/Logical, Beginning/End of this space?

4. Can I/is it wise to install other Linux versions in the same way on the other two Linux partitions or this just silly?

Thanks a lot in advance. I realise these are newbie questions but I've really looked for answers and can't find them.

Philip
 
My advise, since you say you aren't too fluent in the world of Linux. I've always chosen the "install alongside" method without issue (i've heard it can break OS9 though). It's also the easiest. Playing around with partitions can be dangerous if you happen to delete/resize/format or install to the wrong one.

As for swap... If you have at least 1.5gb ram i don't see it 100% necessary unless you plan to do a lot of compiling software. You can skip it, but it's still a good idea to have some, even if it's only 64mb. However, if down the road you feel you need swap (if you skipped it during install), you can always create a swapfile on the installed system (or a usb stick) and turn it on and off whenever you want. The swapfile on usb option might be what you want if you are worried about your ssd.

I personally would skip a "data" partition, unless you want to share files between OS X and Linux. Then you'd have to format it as msdos or vfat as Tiger/Leopard cant seem to read/write Linux file systems. However, the drawback to using msdos/vfat is it has a 2gb file size limit. I just use a sandisk cruzer micro-usb drive to share files. It's super small and out of the way.
iu


You can install more than 1 Linux distro (my powerbook triple boots Leopard, Ubuntu, and Void), but i wouldn't suggest it until you get more familiar with open firmware ,yaboot, grub and chrooting in to a broken system via a live Linux recovery cd/dvd.

That's my 2 cents. Doesn't mean you should follow it, but rather it gives you options to think about. Everybody sets up their systems their own way. Trial and error is part of the game. I've wiped out my systems quite a few times in the past by mistake. Makes for a good learning experience even if you lose some hair in the process. ;)

Cheers
 
Pretty sure that happens to most everybody at least once. I've done it to myself more times than i can remember in the last 20-ish years using bsd/linux.
 
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Thanks. Well I do know my way around a computer and have no fear in trying things out. Looking at the sizes of the various partitions and how much of them is in use it's not rocket science to understand which partitions are the Leopard and Tiger partitions.

Anyway, having struggled with the Do something else part of the installer to try to create the various partitions using a guide from Askubuntu to figure out the settings I asked about earlier, I eventually gave up on that alternative.

I ended by removing the partitions I had created in the free space on the shrunk Linux 1 partition. Then I created one large Ext4 partition with the intent to use that in the Install alongside alternative.

Weirdly however I was unable to point the installer to that partition. It kept defaulting to a small partition it created somewhere on the drive. Even going to the "advanced option", which simply opened the Do something else's partitioning window, didn't help. Having again created such an Ext4 partition I couldn't go back to the Install alongside option and point the installer to that partition.

No matter, I then proceeded with the install on the small partition chosen by the installer and the installation eventually completed.

But I'm not able to boot. The system starts and various text is shown as it boots, but after a while the screen just goes black.

Aha, I thought, it must be the Radeon card.

Here now my question: The first post in this thread says that for Radeon cards one should use
Code:
live radeon.agpmode=-1 radeon.modeset=1 video=offb:off nosplash
When I enter this the system responds that the live command doesn't exist, or something to that effect.

EDIT: When I run without the 'live' part the system reports open firmware-like that pci@f4000000/ata-6@ (...) no such file or directory. Also if I just run radeon.agpmode=-1 I get the same reply.

Any idea what I should use to boot on this 15" DLSD?




My advise, since you say you aren't too fluent in the world of Linux. I've always chosen the "install alongside" method without issue (i've heard it can break OS9 though). It's also the easiest. Playing around with partitions can be dangerous if you happen to delete/resize/format or install to the wrong one.

As for swap... If you have at least 1.5gb ram i don't see it 100% necessary unless you plan to do a lot of compiling software. You can skip it, but it's still a good idea to have some, even if it's only 64mb. However, if down the road you feel you need swap (if you skipped it during install), you can always create a swapfile on the installed system (or a usb stick) and turn it on and off whenever you want. The swapfile on usb option might be what you want if you are worried about your ssd.

I personally would skip a "data" partition, unless you want to share files between OS X and Linux. Then you'd have to format it as msdos or vfat as Tiger/Leopard cant seem to read/write Linux file systems. However, the drawback to using msdos/vfat is it has a 2gb file size limit. I just use a sandisk cruzer micro-usb drive to share files. It's super small and out of the way.
iu


You can install more than 1 Linux distro (my powerbook triple boots Leopard, Ubuntu, and Void), but i wouldn't suggest it until you get more familiar with open firmware ,yaboot, grub and chrooting in to a broken system via a live Linux recovery cd/dvd.

That's my 2 cents. Doesn't mean you should follow it, but rather it gives you options to think about. Everybody sets up their systems their own way. Trial and error is part of the game. I've wiped out my systems quite a few times in the past by mistake. Makes for a good learning experience even if you lose some hair in the process. ;)

Cheers
 
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Once the system is installed you won't need the "live" boot entry. Thats just to boot the installer cd/dvd. Instead you want to use "Linux". At the boot: prompt type: Linux radeon.agpmode=-1

That will boot the installed system. If that fails I have a feeling that "smaller" partition it installed to was actually the usb stick. If that's the case, it won't boot.

The other option is delete all partitions except for tiger and leopard. Leave the rest of the unused space blank (no partition and not formatted) and try installing again. This should prompt to "install alongside osx" again, and the installer will create it's own Linux partitions automatically from the empty unformatted free space.

Cheers
 
Well this is odd. I used dd to copy over both "macbuntu-remix-ppc.iso" and "lubuntu-16.04-remix-v2-ppc". That worked.

For both ISOs the USB is inaccessible in open firmware mode and I'm not able to boot. There's a message that the disk lacks the "Mac parts" or something to that effect. I used a variation of this command "boot usb0/disk:3,yaboot".

Then, suddenly, the identical boot command worked but when the boot began there was a prohibited symbol on the screen.

I'm evidently doing something wrong.
Sounds like you got it already, but just for future reference when I was installing MacBuntu on my DLSD, I found that dd on OSX Leopard for whatever reason did not produce a bootable disk. Using the same dd command and USB stick on my iBook running Debian 8 worked fine.
 
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Thank you. Unfortunately I could not get it to boot so installed Macbuntu instead which boots with that parameter.

But I am surprised how slowly Macbuntu runs on my 15" DLSD with 2GB RAM. I am typing this in Arctic Fox and the text isnt keeping up with my typing, there are delays when I Ctrl-arrow the cursor and.

In addition the trackpad is very unresponsive. Two finger scrolling doesnt always work and the pointer has difficulty moving diagonally. I have tried putting both sliders to the left. Also, the fans rev up frequently too so it is as if the computer is struggling.

I havent run any of the updates yet - would that improve things? I understood 12.04 would be rather snappy. In fact this seems slower than Ubuntu-MATE which I have also installed. Perhaps the installation didnt go well somehow and I should start over.




Once the system is installed you won't need the "live" boot entry. Thats just to boot the installer cd/dvd. Instead you want to use "Linux". At the boot: prompt type: Linux radeon.agpmode=-1

That will boot the installed system. If that fails I have a feeling that "smaller" partition it installed to was actually the usb stick. If that's the case, it won't boot.

The other option is delete all partitions except for tiger and leopard. Leave the rest of the unused space blank (no partition and not formatted) and try installing again. This should prompt to "install alongside osx" again, and the installer will create it's own Linux partitions automatically from the empty unformatted free space.

Cheers
Sounds like you got it already, but just for future reference when I was installing MacBuntu on my DLSD, I found that dd on OSX Leopard for whatever reason did not produce a bootable disk. Using the same dd command and USB stick on my iBook running Debian 8 worked fine.
 
Odd. It should run circles around Mate. There also shouldn't be any typing lag. The touchpad isn't as good as in osx, but it also shouldn't be as you describe. If anything mine is over sensitive. It could have been a bad install (unlikely but possible), or it just doesn't like your ssd (unlikely but possible). It's certainly worth trying a reinstall. This time stay offline (disconnect ethernet/wifi) until the install in done. Then reboot and connect to the net and apply the updates. Reboot once that's done. Let us know what the outcome is.

Cheers
 
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Odd. It should run circles around Mate. There also shouldn't be any typing lag. The touchpad isn't as good as in osx, but it also shouldn't be as you describe. If anything mine is over sensitive. It could have been a bad install (unlikely but possible), or it just doesn't like your ssd (unlikely but possible). It's certainly worth trying a reinstall. This time stay offline (disconnect ethernet/wifi) until the install in done. Then reboot and connect to the net and apply the updates. Reboot once that's done. Let us know what the outcome is.

Cheers
FWIW, I had a similar experience to @pullman on my 1.42 GHz iBook G4 with the Macbuntu remix. But the same machine runs your 16.04 remix smoothly, which makes no sense to me. I never bothered to troubleshoot, I just went with what worked. The only commonality I can see between pullman's DLSD and my iBook would be the 7447 chip; no idea what difference that might make.
 
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Interesting. Most of these machines are all pretty similar except that graphics cards and ram vary. I haven't a clue what would cause this either. I do know one thing though... i would never run Mate on anything less than a G5. It's way too resource heavy for a G4 in my opinion. 16.04 remix is nice and runs well. It's just too bad you couldn't experience the true speed of 12.04 remix.

Edit: FWIW, my powerbook is the 15" 1.67ghz w/2gb ram with radeon mobilty 9700 gfx card. It eats anything i throw at it. Ubuntu 12/14/16, Debian 8/10/Sid, Void-PPC, and any BSD without issue. So yeah, i'm stumped.

Cheers
 
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