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Shouldn't be a "big letdown", though. The iMac has always been a simple machine.

Even the XDR monitor is barely adjustable, and that thing ALONE is $1K. That hinge is EXPENSIVE.

Within that context, I'm glad Apple didn't decide to add any of that cost to the iMac.

And I think you can probably still get the version with a VESA mount if you order it online, right?
 
What do people use these stickers for? I have seen some get really excited about stickers. I have never ever been bothered to even take them outside the box.
Apple should stop including them. They contribute to waste just like their excessive power adapters and ear buds.

Stupid stickers go in the landfill. The only stickers I need are my bumper stickers making fun of science haters and people who think we need borders.
 
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Shouldn't be a "big letdown", though. The iMac has always been a simple machine.

Even the XDR monitor is barely adjustable, and that thing ALONE is $1K. That hinge is EXPENSIVE.

Within that context, I'm glad Apple didn't decide to add any of that cost to the iMac.
I really wanted a G4 inspired arm
 
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yes but i would be interested which monitor you get in the end as i did consider the Mini but got put off with hearing peoples monitor issues
Sorry, my mistake I thought you were being sarcastic. I will let you know. I’m just waiting to see what the new 27” iMac looks like before deciding which way to jump.
 
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Interesting tidbit: the lower-end config has just a single fan and heatsink, whereas the middle and upper-tier models have the dual fans and a heat pipe.
They should have mentioned that somewhere!!!! I couldn’t figure out what actual difference there was. Would’ve liked to know that before I ordered the low end one.
 
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Interesting tidbit: the lower-end config has just a single fan and heatsink, whereas the middle and upper-tier models have the dual fans and a heat pipe.
That is a major material difference that should had been emphasized.
I still went with a fairly loaded config, and am glad I will benefit from this. But I feel that consumers deciding on the entry level config should have this difference better described to them from the onset along with the obvious differences like ports and keyboard.
 
- they should have learned with the MacBook’s mistakes eliminating too many ports. A little extra chassis thickness could have allowed retaining an SD card slot and one or two USB-A ports.
An SD card slot should fit within a 11.4 mm thin device (I have an external reader that is 10 mm thick). It of course would have to be at the side (or bottom) like the headphone jack. The same would apply for any USB A port (as the depth of the metal part of the plug alone is 12 mm). An SD card slot at the side wouldn't look bad in any way. A USB cable sticking out the side or bottom would spoil the looks somewhat.
 
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An SD card slot should fit within a 11.4 mm thin device (I have an external reader that is 10 mm thick). It of course would have to be at the side (or bottom) like the headphone jack. The same would apply for any USB A port (as the depth of the metal part alone is 12 mm. An SD card slot at the side wouldn't look bad in any way. A USB cable sticking out the side or bottom would spoil the looks somewhat.
They should had put the SD cars reader in the power brick. I don’t want an ugly slot I don’t use.
 
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I think people do, but at one point in time the same was said about the home button on the iPhone and iPad, yet here we are. Apple need to stop letting the design and it being a recognisable product come before what the consumers actually want.
Apple seems to be doing a pretty good job so far at putting out products that people clearly want.

This might be a product that doesn't appeal to you, that doesn't mean that it doesn't appeal to a very broad audience.
 
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Interesting tidbit: the lower-end config has just a single fan and heatsink, whereas the middle and upper-tier models have the dual fans and a heat pipe.
That is interesting. I've never been able to understand why it made commercial sense to have two physically different versions (which is going to incur extra logistical costs) that apparently differed only by a pair of USB C 3.1 ports... Every extra difference goes a bit further to explaining that.

It’s like those last few years where they still had 16gb entry level iPhones that jumped to 64gb on the next level…
Not sure that it's such a negative thing - if they'd made it clearer then it would help explain the distinction between the $1300 and $1500 models. The 7-core GPU version is going to be more than enough for many customers - and if that means it only needs a single fan and heatsink, then that's one point of mechanical failure eliminated.
 
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I really wanted a G4 inspired arm
Oh yeah, me too.

The G4 iMac is STILL my favorite Mac ever.

But I see how that could detract from the simplicity of the iMac. The base would have to be HEAVY to support such an arm.

That said you can still have what you want, but you have to get your own arm.

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Apple should stop including them.
I disagree with this vehemently, especially with this iMac. I'd definitely put one of the stickers in front.

They contribute to waste just like their excessive power adapters and ear buds.
I feel that not including a power adapter for a device that needs power is stupid. Ear buds are an electronic device with a purpose. It's up to the individual to be responsible with them after they're done.

Stupid stickers go in the landfill.
I'm sure. But I don't see this as an argument against Apple exclusively.

The only stickers I need are my bumper stickers making fun of science haters and people who think we need borders.
Everybody's got their thing. I like and use my Apple stickers.
 
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^^ Not very convenient with the brick under the table. As is you are now going to have a USB-C SD Card adapter hanging out from the back of the computer.

I'm not very keen on having my Ethernet there, either... let alone the whole "desktop needs a power brick at all" thing... and while it sort-of makes sense for people who have Ethernet sockets next to their power sockets (a) that's not everybody - my switch is sitting on my desk, (b) those people have probably already solved the inscrutable problem of running a patch cable up to their desktop and (c) my experience is that having things-plugged-into-other-things around power sockets is a recipe for knots.

I get the impression that M1 - clearly designed mainly for ultra-portables - just doesn't have the spare I/O capability to provide more than two USB 3.1 ports worth of I/O on top of Thunderbolt (or to support more than 2 displays total) so arguing about port provision on M1 machines is a bit moot. More i/o is one of the things on the 'must have' list for M1x/M2, especially if (as rumoured) the 14/16" MBPs are getting some ports back...

Where the Ethernet is coming from - and how it is getting down the power cable (Yo, dawg, I hear you like Power-over-Ethernet so I put ethernet in your power...) is a bit of a mystery. Given that the Mac Mini quietly gained a 10Gb Ethernet option a few months after launch, will the same thing come to the iMac? Is it a dedicated Ethernet line from the SoC, or does the SoC have external PCIe lanes?

What I'd like to see is a TB3/4 hub designed to sit neatly underneath the iMac, provide extra ports at desktop-level and (ideally) power the iMac via Thunderbolt and/or MagSafe. One fly in that ointment, though, is that the iMac seems to need a 143W PSU (according to Apple specs) and I believe that Thunderbolt tops out at 100W. Also depends whether the Ethernet comes down the power cable as USB, Thunderbolt or Ethernet from a controller in the Mac.
 
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What do people use these stickers for? I have seen some get really excited about stickers. I have never ever been bothered to even take them outside the box.
People put them on their cars, Macs, musical instruments and their cases, skateboards, iPads, desks, doors, notebooks, and pretty much anywhere fun people like to stick whatever sticker they like onto.

As much as people have been complaining about the "missing" logo on the front of this iMac, Apple just gave them two options. And the stickers are nice and have an attractive sheen to them, so they will not look out of place.
 
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What I'd like to see is a TB3/4 hub designed to sit neatly underneath the iMac, provide extra ports at desktop-level and (ideally) power the iMac via Thunderbolt and/or MagSafe. One fly in that ointment, though, is that the iMac seems to need a 143W PSU (according to Apple specs) and I believe that Thunderbolt tops out at 100W. Also depends whether the Ethernet comes down the power cable as USB, Thunderbolt or Ethernet from a controller in the Mac.
I'm sure OWC is working on something like this, and in matching colors.
 
Interesting tidbit: the lower-end config has just a single fan and heatsink, whereas the middle and upper-tier models have the dual fans and a heat pipe.
I saw that mentioned by one of the reviewers but can't remember which review. I have not seen or heard anything, anywhere else which said there's only one fan in the low end model. Where did you see it?
 
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I disagree with this vehemently, especially with this iMac. I'd definitely put one of the stickers in front.


I feel that not including a power adapter for a device that needs power is stupid. Ear buds are an electronic device with a purpose. It's up to the individual to be responsible with them after they're done.


I'm sure. But I don't see this as an argument against Apple exclusively.


Everybody's got their thing. I like and use my Apple stickers.

I’m turning my Apple stickers into NFT’s
 
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An SD card slot—a small little opening—would be hardly noticeable on the side or the back, no different than the 3.5mm audio jack on the side.

I haven’t used an SD Card in a very long time (several years), but given enough people like to use their Macs for photo and video editing a built-in SD Card slot would be a very handy thing to have and not have to bother with yet another stupid dongle hanging off your machine.

I have long said that whenever possible avoid pissing off your customers unnecessarily. Apple (and others) sometimes forget that simple principle. A good immediate example are the current MacBooks Air and Pro when they were redesigned a few years ago lacking some handy ports that were there on the previous design.
 
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The Verge review twice makes the very misleading claim that the iMac is basically an M1 "iPad on a stand, minus the touchscreen of course" and "a MacBook Pro in desktop form." No, unlike the iPad and MacBook, the iMac and the Mini do not have a battery! They crash when the power cord is unplugged! Hard to understand why people defend that. The chip works JUST AS WELL from battery, there are no performance advantages from being plugged in. True, the screen probably draws more power than the MacBook screen does, so I wouldn't expect the battery to last as long. But it should last long enough to bring it from your desk to use at the coffee table without having to shut it down.
 
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