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Great, this seems powerful and promising. Now, let me connect an external monitor and extend my display instead of mirroring the built in screen.
Honest question. How do you expect to control UI elements in the extended display if you do not have a mouse or track pad paired to the iPad?
 


Last month, Apple introduced a new iPad Pro with the same M1 chip found in the latest Macs, and early benchmark results indicate that the M1 iPad Pro is over 50% faster than the previous-generation iPad Pro

I want to see the Venn diagram of:

Insecure Men who complain about colours or laptop and white besels

Insecure Men who criticise people for picking cars based on looks/colours

oh. Wait. Here it is.

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Honest question. How do you expect to control UI elements in the extended display if you do not have a mouse or track pad paired to the iPad?

That is the $64,000 question.

One answer is “add a pointing device” as you describe. Which is probably the easy way.

A second method might be using Expose/Spaces to “promote” one app to the external screen. There are times I’d love to be able to throw my YouTube or AppleTV video to the external screen and keep working on my email.
 
I’m hoping that iPadOS 15 will bring us some external screen and backgrounding delights. I’d like my LumaFusion exports (which are pretty damn quick to be fair) to be able to be put to the background so I can do email or prep other things while I wait. It has the horsepower.

no regrets here ordering the new ipad. I’ll enjoy benchmarking my 2020 iPad Pro against it.
 
lightroom on the iPad is severely limited. Can’t merge panoramas (a feature I use all the time, I shoot a lot of Panos), no ability to use certain plugins like those used for certain photo printers, limited import and organization options, support for external drives and network storage, you name it.

Lightroom for iOS is absolutely fantastic, but it is missing features that are dealbreakers for me and my workflow. But if I could run the full desktop version of Lightroom, then my M1 iPad Pro (whenever it arrives) would basically become my computer.
It’s not ‘severely limited’ at all, it’s mildly limiting in some situations. Yours, needing pano support means it won’t work for you just yet, without the use of other apps to supplement. I don’t use that feature much and when I have needed it I tend to use affinity on the iPad, or PS on my Mac. They do it better anyway in my opinion.

As you know I already said in my original post that the file management is lacking. That’s Adobe’s issue though, and their insistence on using the cloud. In the field and away from my studio I use it with sync disabled and manage my own files.

Printing, I agree- but I use my studio stuff for that kind of thing. You can easily get anything print ready on LR however. iPads can only attach to AirPrint printers anyway, so not sure printer plugins are really relevant in this conversation. Those for which printing is a primary task wouldn’t be looking at iPad solutions anyway.
 
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And heavy apps already exist too and more keep coming out.
Yes, I know, but some here have difficulties to understand the difference between OS and Apps. There are also "light" apps where the data processing is heavy.
 
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Exciting news - I can't wait to get mine. It will be my first Apple device whatsoever - but I'm fed up with those lacking implementations regarding tablets and styluses in the Windows ecosystem.
I wonder when the embargo goes down.
 
How does that compare with the new iPad Air?

update (found it):

A14 iPad Air has 1583 single core and 4198 multi-core (I thought it would be higher since everybody keeps saying the M1 is just a glorified A14)
Judging by the single score it confirms to me the “glorified M1” statement. Maybe the scores are also down to either less cores and/or the smaller device size besides maybe a bit different chip design.
Still find all of this mind blowing, we knew this, it said that it had an M1, yet seeing the numbers confirmed in writing still blows my mind. Benchmarks have been closing the gap with desktop class CPUs over time and the line has been crossed: mobile devices are as fast as laptop and desktops and a whole lot faster than most consumer level Intel/AMD CPUs, specially perf per watt.
But your post made me realize that it was already the case with an iPad Air, not THAT out of the water, but still.
 
Great, why not make iPad OS better with more actually useful features that people will use and call it… macOS
 
It’s extremely impressive what Apple has been able to do in a very short timeframe, and I expect this to continue the trajectory of iPad, but I still need to see more from iPadOS before I invest in these new machines.
 
Great, why not make iPad OS better with more actually useful features that people will use and call it… macOS
I am with you, but macOS on a touch first device is a bad idea. Just continue to add features and capabilities to iPadOS. It just needs to happen faster. I am expecting a lot from WWDC this year.
 
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Merging a mouse/keyboard-focused operating system into a touchscreen-based one is really difficult. I'm not saying that Microsoft even tries, but they fail for years now.

Even if many people talk about the so-named "pro apps", I would not buy an iPad for them to maybe come. If the iPad checks all the boxes you need it for, buy it. If you NEED the "pro apps", better buy a Mac. Never buy a product because of its announced software features - and the "pro apps" are not even announced.
 
iOS or iPadOS is restrictive, cumbersome and apps have too much control over the device and data. The iPad M1 needs a grown-up OS.
 
MacOS is not taxing any Mac and has not done that for years. It is the apps compute requirements that limits the Macs. Similarly, it is the "heavy" apps that are lacking on iPadOS not iPadOS capabilities. The screen is max 12.9 which barely is enough for one "window" if you really are going to work with the machine so why ask for multi-window support?

Th iPP 12.9 is not for the average person just like the Mac Pro is not. Apple talked about "XDR workflow". I bet complaining in Macrumor forums is not included in that statement.

I didn’t hear any mentioning of an XDR workflow. What’s that supposed to be?
 
I’m more impressed the 10.5 has held up so well. Despite these on paper improvements, the real world benefit is negligible. WWDC I guess
Are you upgrading from your 10.5”? I’m wondering, have the 10.5” and still seems fine, but while has some value was thinking of upgrading, for future proofing etc.
 
Are you upgrading from your 10.5”? I’m wondering, have the 10.5” and still seems fine, but while has some value was thinking of upgrading, for future proofing etc.
It makes no sense to “futurproof” if you are not seeing a limitation from the hardware. The best futurproofing strategy is to upgrade when you see limits for your actual workload, or when you want to expand your workload, or when the device is damaged.
 
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Nice, I'll stick to the 2020 iPad Pro and MBP that comes later this year.
 
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And all this means nothing with the current rate iPad OS is going. Nothing special software wise that makes it any better running the same apps as the previous generation. It's a consumption device that can't replace a computer or a laptop. It's just a simple as that. iPad OS is the defining reason why I won't and have not upgraded my iPad.
 
And all this means nothing with the current rate iPad OS is going. Nothing special software wise that makes it any better running the same apps as the previous generation. It's a consumption device that can't replace a computer or a laptop. It's just a simple as that. iPad OS is the defining reason why I won't and have not upgraded my iPad.
This is simply a false statement. So short sighted. Maybe it can’t replace it for YOU. Or maybe you haven’t tried. Or maybe you’re stuck in your ways. Just maybe it’s a suitable replacement for many others. Just maybe some people use it in conjunction with other machines. Such boring comments made over and over and over again.
 
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