Lets wait to talk about performance until we have the applications which actually runs directly on the hardware.
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M1 MacBook Pro Replaces Low-End Model, Higher-End Intel Options Still Available
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so, a laptop
The integrated RAM is also likely far more efficient and efficiently utilized, allowing you to do more with less.
Hmmm does the M1 Pro outperform the more expensive i5 machines?
After all that drama and bluster I expect so, though it’s strange.
If M1 doesn’t outperform, that’s bad.
If it does many folks will be pissed spending more for less performance.
After all that drama and bluster I expect so, though it’s strange.
If M1 doesn’t outperform, that’s bad.
If it does many folks will be pissed spending more for less performance.
As I watched them start with the cheaper models, all I could think was "this is brilliant." For two reasons:
One, they are releasing and positioning these lower-end models this way because they are something a normal consumer who doesn't even understand what CISC/x86/etc are can just go buy because they like Macs. Likely, x86 emulation isn't something they care about, and they don't have any Windows-only legacy audio or scientific apps laying around that they depend on.
Two, because of that market, they are getting away from gHz and clock speeds and all that junk. They are almost to the "Good/Better/Best" style of marketing. Fine with me, though I'm definitely fascinated by the Anandtech-level specs on these.
I really cannot wait for the real-world performance comparison between the M1 MBP and the Intel version. If the "low-end" M1 kicks the Intel versions' asses. that is gonna make waves.
Seconded! And I don't think we'll have to wait 12 months for it, either.
Probably because they've just shown M1 which is the chip for Mac Mini, MBA and low MBP. Then there'll be a higher end chip with more cores for presumably the higher MBP 13" (14"?) and the MBP 16" that will replace the rest. This also seems to only be 16GB, while the higher end M(2?) will be 32GB at least, as I doubt they downgrade the RAM of the 16" MBP
It's not like they placed it becauses it's slower, for instance they said it was 3 times faster than the i5 and I guess they meant the lastest i5 included in MBA/MBP they replace
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Only noobs are waiting for M2, M7 is where the REAL action is /s
no, instead of thunderbolt 4 and usb4 they went thunderbolt/usb 4
it will outperformed any 10th gen i5 7W 10W 15W even some 45W
I still have a 2015 15" MBP with 16GB Ram and 1TB SSD. Are these new Macs with Apple processors worth the upgrade?
Nobody will be pissed, they will be glad Apple still offers the Intel models because they likely have a workflow that includes functionality only available on Intel currently.
The problem here is this means nothing years down the road. The best upgrade a user can make to increase system performance is to the RAM. If it's unified, then no aftermarket upgrades seem possible. If no upgrades, then a user's best option is to purchase as much as possible from the get-go.
16GBs won't be much 5+ years down the road.
I wouldn't call it "brilliant." It was the only logical roadmap in this case.
For Pro users, it doesn't matter how fast the machine is if the app doesn't work. Right now, the only guaranteed working apps for M1 are those in the Mac App Store.
I'm thinking we'll only have to wait 6 months or so for the M2 Macs. Including the 16" MPB and the new iMac. Given that all Adobe stuff with be out by then, and AS Final Cut and AS Logic will have been out for a while and received the necessary bug updates, and given that Big Sur will also have been ironed out, these will be the machines. 6 months until I get a new computer is the plan.
Do you think they will put the GPU on the chip, or have something to the side of it?
Pretty interesting that the RAM is on the chip too. Should help with speeds. Very, very curious to see the 16”, I was sad when they stopped at the 13”
I assumed “Thunderbolt / USB 4” is a shorthand for “Thunderbolt 4 / USB4”.
The problem here is your speculation about what 16GB of RAM means in this context means nothing. What if you found out next week after some GeekBench and AutoCAD/Photoshop/FinalCut testing that the 16GB of RAM in M1 is as effective as 64GB of RAM in an Intel Mac? Still not good enough in 5 years? RAM has been soldered for years now, so not being user-replaceable is not a new problem, and if this RAM is able to accomplish everything a higher-spec'd Intel system can, then I see no issue.
I don't know how capable the new RAM is, of course, but neither do you, so my point is just that making comparison judgements using the current paradigm is pointless.
Given sales volumes, they decided to keep their margins. In any case, if these are as fast as they claim, the base models may well be good enough for people who otherwise would have purchased one of the higher-end models.You’d think the M1 prices would be dramatically less since we no longer have to pay the exorbitant Intel cpu core prices