Sure, because m1 is not a cpu - it is a GPU and CPU at the same time. For the record, a workstation built for this workload will be paired with a descent GPU - so you should compare these CPUs against CPU/GPU combination at similar price point.
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M1 Ultra Outperforms 28-Core Intel Mac Pro in First Leaked Benchmark
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oops, there is only 1 CPU listed that beats the M1 Ultra, and not by much. Terrible. so many modern chips are faster, NOT - Lakshimash!
Be my guest, I'm dying to see it. According to everything so far, the M1 Ultra blows a decent CPU and a high end GPU costing much more. But you are welcome to prove everyone wrong
I do not see these on your list (anything from Intel's recent lineup of Xeon Processors). AMD is launching 5xxx TRs at this point, I do not see their benchmarks on the list as well...
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No, it doesn't. They've claimed m1 max with 32 GPU was close to desktop GPU performance... while it was not (it was more like mobile 3060, which is impressive, but still very far from apple claims). m1 ultra is going to be twice faster... so something like 3080 desktop performance? Not bad, but I have no reason to think that m1 ultra machines will be cheaper than machines equipped with xeon/nvidia. (because m1max machines cost is similar to high-end gaming laptops) - even if you take into account chip shortage and crazy prices for nvidia GPUs.
Not my list
Ask geekbench why they are not included
Every time I’ve tried to prove your theory right, I’ve failed. Fact is that comparably performing machines are more expensive. And if you are talking gaming that is not relevant, no one buys a Mac to game
Having run scientific and engineering software for a very long time, I can honestly say NONE of it was on Windows. All that stuff needs a Unix-based operating system.
BTW, *everyone* I worked with at DARPA - all the PMs - used Macs. So not sure your experience is all that representative.
How many cores would the Macintosh IIfx need, to be equivilently powerful as the M1 Ultra? 5000 cores? Maybe? ?
I don’t think that’s how things work. It’s the size of the market that matters the most. If the macs were potatoes but had the biggest share, devs would develop for the Mac.
I am not sure what you are saying. A comparably configured MacBook pro 14" is $900 more expensive than the Mac Studio.
I've just bought an MBP14 with M1 Max and I can assure you that it cost considerably more than the Mac Studio with M1 Max. The MBP14 with 24-core M1 Max (32GB/512GB SSD) is $900 more than the entry level Studio. To this you can add the cost of the monitor, keyboard etc. to use it "docked".
So it's definitely not cheaper, but you do then have a portable system, which has "value" depending on your usage. For me, it is a better solution because I need a laptop even if I spend the vast majority of time with it docked and connected to a monitor.
Ah... m1 ultra is not included either. So may be it is okay to compare not-included processors with not-included processors?
1. Wrong about price point. m1max mac costs more than a new Asus gaming laptop - and performs worse (check dave2d recent video for a "proof"). If you move to desktop land - the results are going to be comparable.
2. Wrong about - "no one buys mac for gaming" - because many do (I do not, but still...).In general, "these are not gaming machines" - this is a crappy argument (sorry for being rude). While games themself are non-important for many, being very demanding - they are a good way to test the capabilities of one's machine. These capabilities usually transfer into other areas (scientific computing, machine learning, etc).
If you make a custom build with Xeon and 3090 for example - the price might be slightly higher (10-15%), while performance will be much higher... you can play with it if you want.
I will not argue that mac studio machines are probably going to be much more energy efficient.
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Because Mac studio comes with monitor, keyboard and mouse included? If you add these - is it still cheaper?
Many of stayed on FCPX and Resolve - Both are astonishingly fast on an M1 Max. Already spoke to 4 colleagues today that have order the Mac Studio for edit / colour and post suites. FCPX was feature stripped when launched but it's caught up a lot. But most of us still colour in Resolve and do audio post in ProTools.
Windows or Linux. Most CAD (midrange capability like SolidWorks) is on Windows, but a lot of CAE is Linux.
Yes, I can get many monitor, keyboard and mouse combos for WAY less than $900. Also if you are going to dock the MacBook, you need those things anyway.
At least you can run a lot more software than any arm processor plus windows, Linux as well as your Hacked Mac OS…
Apple did a good job of keeping secret the fact that two M1 Pro Max chips could be strung together.
PMs? Management? Much of the work done by DARPA is by contractor.