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M2 iPad Air Runs Windows 11 ARM via Emulation, Thanks to EU Rules
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But it's worth underlining that this was done on an M2 iPad Air. Would be curious to see this on iPad Pro.
Apple will fight this, it shows that the iPad hardware has outgrown iPadOS.
That’s the picture you have in your head? 😂
Anyway, it should be available worldwide as a virtualization instead of emulation
There's already ways to write code on an iPad and push to a git repo, and then you can have that deployed to a server where you can test it.
So the actual change here would be you can compile/run locally, but you were never going to run the production app on the same machine where you were writing the code.
I would rather fight several stray cats then bath myself in lemon juice than use this.
You may ask yourself why the market prefers the tablet with the “FisherPrice OS” to the tablets with the supposed “powerful” operating system.
It would be really great if the iPad would run Mac OS. iPad OS holds back the hardware
A full Windows 11 ARM instance would run just fine (and better than most Windows ARM machines) on an "M" equipped iPad if Apple would allow normal virtualization........... or better yet even direct bootcamp style operation.....
But alas they just want to keep iPad hardware crippled to ring up more Mac sales.....
......however even Apple will end up bringing to market a "MacPad" type machine eventually......
But alas they just want to keep iPad hardware crippled to ring up more Mac sales.....
......however even Apple will end up bringing to market a "MacPad" type machine eventually......
The market actually doesn't.... Apple does what it wants .....often disregarding trends, market preferences and common sense if it goes against its "strategic position"....
I don’t care about Windows 11.
I want to run MacOs on my iPad.
I want to run MacOs on my iPad.
Windows lost the calculator advantage last year though.
Millions of apple fanboys are losing sleep over this.
They`ll now sacrifice a 1000 euros to their apple shrine whilst chanting 'I love Fine Woven'
They`ll now sacrifice a 1000 euros to their apple shrine whilst chanting 'I love Fine Woven'
There are still many people developing local applications.
I would buy an iPad Pro if I could run Windows alongside iPadOS. Reality is, a lot of stuff you just can’t run on any Apple OS.
I know this isn’t the case for most people, but the loss of bootcamp was a major disappointment to me.
I know this isn’t the case for most people, but the loss of bootcamp was a major disappointment to me.
In theory, yes. But without actual hypervisor facilities, the only way to run another OS is to have a non-hypervisor virtual machine that itself runs Win11 Arm. So it's emulation. Granted it's Arm emulating Arm with the virtual machine pretending to be a PC BIOS and architecture.
At least, that's how I understand it. Someone will no doubt correct me if I'm wrong. Please do.
iPad iOS seemed to be fine in the early 2010s; seemed like the right paradigm for a high end tablet, where the iPhone was also getting some pretty new apps, and where iOS native applications were slick vs. a lot of clunky web apps.
But software development has moved on and the iPad seems firmly rooted to the 2010s - except we now also have subscription pricing.
I mean, if you think Windows is "useful", then you must use your computer just to watch the time.
I don't think that's true. Earlier Insider Preview Win 11 Arm builds might have been limited in scope, but the official Win 11 Arm release now available is, as far as I can tell, fully functional.
I run it on vmware Fusion on my M4 Mac Pro and it seems complete to me. I'm running a fairly heavy windows development environment including tools like SQL Management Studio, IIS, Visual Studio. Some of that (VS) is native ARM too, now, and the rest is emulated. But it's very fast and I can't tell the difference functionally between this and the Windows 11 x64 that I used to run on my older Intel MBP.
The native apps, like VS, run incredibly performant, as you'd expect. Even the x64 emulated stuff (emulated within Win11 Arm by its own emulator) is still running more quickly than my 2019 Intel MBP that ran it natively.
Software development has moved on but that is NOT a good thing. We replaced everything native that worked at least mostly disconnected with piles of javascript with a browser around it that barely works. If you avoid that, the iPad is a pretty decent platform.
I know many do not understand this, but there are lots of people that buy an iPad because it is basically an iOS device and is not driven by not a fully fledged "PC" OS with all its complications. "Usable" is context dependent.
I use Parallels (Arm Windows 11) and it runs well.
Some of us need Windows to run older XP-like apps, that run easily with Arm Windows because of their reduced need for cpu and memory usage.
I can run these apps on almost ANY Windows machine, so something like this useful. I didn't know Android-Windows was a thing. I'll need to look into that now.
Also, if I'm not mistaken, I think it would be trivial for non-EU users to create an EU region account for this, and Tiny Windows may work better on an M4 in emulation, considering everything works better on it
We need a thread for this in the iPad section now.
Some of us need Windows to run older XP-like apps, that run easily with Arm Windows because of their reduced need for cpu and memory usage.
I can run these apps on almost ANY Windows machine, so something like this useful. I didn't know Android-Windows was a thing. I'll need to look into that now.
Also, if I'm not mistaken, I think it would be trivial for non-EU users to create an EU region account for this, and Tiny Windows may work better on an M4 in emulation, considering everything works better on it
We need a thread for this in the iPad section now.
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