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'M2 Max' Geekbench Scores Leak Online, Revealing Rumored Specs and Performance
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Yes, those core components are a must. I don't think they should wait till m3 or m4 for ray tracing. Fine they skipped it for m1pro/m1max but for m2pro/m2max they should have it. Fingers-crossed but I'm almost going to be disappointed.
Apple used to do Spec bumps at 6 Months in the the old days. I expect they'd like to get to a point where the whole line up us upgraded at the same time. It's tricky when the Air has an M2 and the Pros are on M1s
If they come out with this type of rubbish again, it could be the start of Apples very quick decline 😏....Cook needs to go, he has nothing left to offer Apple!
Geekbench scores allegedly for the upcoming "M2 Max" chip have surfaced online, offering a closer look at the performance levels and specific details of the forthcoming Apple silicon processor.
The Geekbench results, first spotted on Twitter, are for a Mac configuration of with the M2 Max chip, a 12-core CPU, and 96GB of memory. The Mac listed has an identifier "Mac14,6," which could be upcoming MacBook Pros or the next-generation Mac Studio. Apple offers a maximum of 64GB of memory on the current 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pros, while the Mac Studio can be configured with up to 128GB of memory with the M1 Ultra.
According to the test, the M2 Max chip scored 1,853 in single-core and 13,855 in multi-core. For comparison, the M1 Max chip in the Mac Studio scored 1,755 in single-core and 12,333 in multi-core. If the M2 Max chip results are accurate, the performance increase will be relatively minor for the upcoming chip.
The M2 chip, announced in June 2022, is based on an enhanced version of TSMC's 5nm process. What fabrication process the upcoming M2 Pro and M2 Max chips will have is not entirely clear. While they could feature the same enhanced 5nm process as the standard M2 chip, there are also rumors it could leapfrog to 3nm, offering significant performance and energy efficiency gains.
According to the results, the chip was tested on a Mac running macOS Ventura 13.2, which has yet to enter developer or public beta testing but is being worked on internally at Apple. The first Macs expected to feature the M2 Pro and M2 Max chips are rumored to be updated 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pros, with the Mac Studio to follow sometime next year. The updated MacBook Pros were initially rumored to launch in the October to November timeframe but are now expected to launch in early 2023.
Apple has several Macs in the work for 2023, including updated MacBook Pros, an updated iMac, and the long-rumored Apple silicon Mac Pro. For a complete rundown of all the new Macs we expect next year and beyond, be sure to check out our guide.
Article Link: 'M2 Max' Geekbench Scores Leak Online, Revealing Rumored Specs and Performance
I am more interested in what the GPU can do, the little spec bump on the CPU is fine for me.
Maybe that's exactly why Apple have leaked these results 🤔
Leaked Geekbench results prior to launch are always a bit on the low side as the optimisation hasn't been done yet.
Geekbench scores allegedly for the upcoming "M2 Max" chip have surfaced online, offering a closer look at the performance levels and specific details of the forthcoming Apple silicon processor.
The Geekbench results, first spotted on Twitter, are for a Mac configuration of with the M2 Max chip, a 12-core CPU, and 96GB of memory. The Mac listed has an identifier "Mac14,6," which could be upcoming MacBook Pros or the next-generation Mac Studio. Apple offers a maximum of 64GB of memory on the current 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pros, while the Mac Studio can be configured with up to 128GB of memory with the M1 Ultra.
According to the test, the M2 Max chip scored 1,853 in single-core and 13,855 in multi-core. For comparison, the M1 Max chip in the Mac Studio scored 1,755 in single-core and 12,333 in multi-core. If the M2 Max chip results are accurate, the performance increase will be relatively minor for the upcoming chip.
The M2 chip, announced in June 2022, is based on an enhanced version of TSMC's 5nm process. What fabrication process the upcoming M2 Pro and M2 Max chips will have is not entirely clear. While they could feature the same enhanced 5nm process as the standard M2 chip, there are also rumors it could leapfrog to 3nm, offering significant performance and energy efficiency gains.
According to the results, the chip was tested on a Mac running macOS Ventura 13.2, which has yet to enter developer or public beta testing but is being worked on internally at Apple. The first Macs expected to feature the M2 Pro and M2 Max chips are rumored to be updated 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pros, with the Mac Studio to follow sometime next year. The updated MacBook Pros were initially rumored to launch in the October to November timeframe but are now expected to launch in early 2023.
Apple has several Macs in the work for 2023, including updated MacBook Pros, an updated iMac, and the long-rumored Apple silicon Mac Pro. For a complete rundown of all the new Macs we expect next year and beyond, be sure to check out our guide.
Article Link: 'M2 Max' Geekbench Scores Leak Online, Revealing Rumored Specs and Performance
Having said that, just looking at the M1 to M2 performance improvements it's clear that serious improvements will need to be found elsewhere, TB5, more RAM, better Graphics etc.
Makes sense. Not every upgrade will be massive and most people really don't need to upgrade to each version. These numbers are for CPU-related tasks, but the M2 Ultra will be much faster during video editing tasks due to its dedicated hardware so that should make the video editors/producers very happy.
Bonus? For me...room heating was the motivation to upgrade. And the +5% increase in CPU performance was the bonus! Really miss those Intel CPU days!
The GPU is probably getting the largest increase offering nearly the same TFlops as the M1 Ultra 48-core.
They could improve it further by supporting AV1 decode and encode.
| Chip | TFlops |
| M1 Ultra 48-core GPU | 15.6 |
| M2 Max 40-core GPU | 14.4 |
The M1 Pro and M1 Max already includes the improved media engine. It was the M1 that lacked it.
They could improve it further by supporting AV1 decode and encode.
Some incredibly sad guys scout the geekbench site daily looking for unreleased hardware.
I dunno - it looks like the modest increase is in line with what we saw between the M1 and M2 MBA. Not sure why we'd expect any different for the MBP.
As someone who bought an M1 Max Macbook Pro last December, I feel this is good news actually as it will take longer time for my machine to be deprecated.
I can't understand that thirst for computational power that some of you have. Do you guys really use your computers for 1 year and buy a new one???
I can't understand that thirst for computational power that some of you have. Do you guys really use your computers for 1 year and buy a new one???
I agree, I'm glad my Mac Studio remains almost "top of the line" for one more year.
What if Apple isn't focussing on more speed, but on a chip design that is smaller and yet so powerful that it is suitable for use in all devices? Just one circuit, not multiple versions like Intel's CPU's. And maybe in few years there will be just one device with a tiny board that maybe has a few connectors on it? A device that is just small as the current Apple Watch or iPhone and yet so powerful that it can do the same as a Mac. Something that you can (wirelessly) connect to screens, keyboards and whatever you like.
I just remembered how an office has changed over the decades. We've come a long way from just a typewriter, loads of paper, film and bulky peripherals. Especially in the graphics department a lot has changed.
Why do Apple engineers working on unreleased hardware continue to use Geekbench, when that clearly leaks?
Geekbench scores allegedly for the upcoming "M2 Max" chip have surfaced online, offering a closer look at the performance levels and specific details of the forthcoming Apple silicon processor.
The Geekbench results, first spotted on Twitter, are for a Mac configuration of with the M2 Max chip, a 12-core CPU, and 96GB of memory. The Mac listed has an identifier "Mac14,6," which could be upcoming MacBook Pros or the next-generation Mac Studio. Apple offers a maximum of 64GB of memory on the current 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pros, while the Mac Studio can be configured with up to 128GB of memory with the M1 Ultra.
According to the test, the M2 Max chip scored 1,853 in single-core and 13,855 in multi-core. For comparison, the M1 Max chip in the Mac Studio scored 1,755 in single-core and 12,333 in multi-core. If the M2 Max chip results are accurate, the performance increase will be relatively minor for the upcoming chip.
The M2 chip, announced in June 2022, is based on an enhanced version of TSMC's 5nm process. What fabrication process the upcoming M2 Pro and M2 Max chips will have is not entirely clear. While they could feature the same enhanced 5nm process as the standard M2 chip, there are also rumors it could leapfrog to 3nm, offering significant performance and energy efficiency gains.
According to the results, the chip was tested on a Mac running macOS Ventura 13.2, which has yet to enter developer or public beta testing but is being worked on internally at Apple. The first Macs expected to feature the M2 Pro and M2 Max chips are rumored to be updated 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pros, with the Mac Studio to follow sometime next year. The updated MacBook Pros were initially rumored to launch in the October to November timeframe but are now expected to launch in early 2023.
Apple has several Macs in the work for 2023, including updated MacBook Pros, an updated iMac, and the long-rumored Apple silicon Mac Pro. For a complete rundown of all the new Macs we expect next year and beyond, be sure to check out our guide.
Article Link: 'M2 Max' Geekbench Scores Leak Online, Revealing Rumored Specs and Performance
There are some wealthy Apple fans on here who just want the best of the best, at all times. It's very comparable to car enthusiasts.
My two cents responding to all comments here so far:
- Performance: The key thing people like MKBHD said about the M1 Max MBP was that it was a quantum leap in useful performance like video encode performance. For Marcus, it meant not having to take a Mac Pro on trips in a flight case. Now he could take the M1 Max MBP. And in-between times, his needs and indeed the needs of all of us haven't changed. It's not like YouTube now demands 8K videos, for example. 1080p is still the norm, and 4K for enthusiasts. There no need for another quantum leap in Apple Silicon performance. It's got space to gently evolve—hence 10% increases.
- Ray tracing GPU: Not a priority. Again, it's only really for enthusiast gamers (and then only really a subset of those!) , and Apple's shown no desire to appeal to that market.
- AV1 hardware code/decode: Very young technology and I don't believe Apple is a member of the Alliance for Open Media, which has created it. This is probably because it's not in Apple's particular interest to support it (and Apple's passion for open source is now dead anyway). I think we would expect to see it appear in Video Toolkit first, probably next year, as software support in the next macOS. And then in the silicon of the M3 in the Air/Pro. Then it might migrate to the M3 Pro/Max hardware video engines. With hardware MP4/HEVC and ProRes support, Apple's already touching the bases it wants to in terms of hardware encode/decode.
- But AMD/Intel is better! Yes, they caught up—but you'll only enjoy that better performance for literally an hour on a laptop. Where Apple wins is performance per watt, and AMD/Intel are nowhere near close to that, and never will be.
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All of Apple's new equipment is now cast in concrete when it is built with no future upgrades possible other than the operating system.
My logic is to buy the maxed out specs on any new Apple device. The top CPU and max memory will carry the system forward for several generations. The largest SSD can be useful as well.
Most folks are not doing space shuttle re-entry calculations in real time, so a few minutes more time doing something is not earth shattering.
My maxed out Mac Studio is cool to the touch all day long so it is NOT a room heater. My 2012 trash can MacPro did put out a lot of heat.
My logic is to buy the maxed out specs on any new Apple device. The top CPU and max memory will carry the system forward for several generations. The largest SSD can be useful as well.
Most folks are not doing space shuttle re-entry calculations in real time, so a few minutes more time doing something is not earth shattering.
My maxed out Mac Studio is cool to the touch all day long so it is NOT a room heater. My 2012 trash can MacPro did put out a lot of heat.
They almost certainly don't. It'll be a third party vendor. Somebody tasked with adding hardware driver support, for example, or potentially even very early review models. Could be a Chinese factory leak, too.
There's an additional entry with a higher multi score: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/18973011