13900K: 2940 / 19837
M2 Ultra: 2837 / 21730
Sounds close to me.
Ryzen 9 series beats intel
13900K: 2940 / 19837
M2 Ultra: 2837 / 21730
Sounds close to me.
That’s using OpenCL, OpenCL sucks on Apple Silicon. A fairer comparison would be with Metal.View attachment 2216228
And it's around 250% slower than the RTX 4090 in its best-case-scenario synthetic app LOL
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And it's around 250% slower than the RTX 4090 in its best-case-scenario synthetic app LOL
Interesting because DXVK is mentioned in their license.
Either way, we still need GPU upgradeablityThat’s using OpenCL, OpenCL sucks on Apple Silicon. A fairer comparison would be with Metal.
Cool, lmk when M3 is out.This also means the M2 Ultra is now the fastest chip that Apple has ever released.
Asahi Linux: “FAQ: Will you be able to use GPUs on the PCIe slots of the new Mac Pro?Man, I wonder if you could get Linux loaded onto the Mac Pro and then maybe brute-force the use of discrete AMD GPUs onto it? It would be fascinating to see if it could be done....
I mean… it doesn’t have discrete graphics (as-in a physical add-in card) and it’s hanging with a 4060. I’d say that’s pretty amazing.View attachment 2216228
And it's around 250% slower than the RTX 4090 in its best-case-scenario synthetic app LOL
Ryzen 9 series beats intel
my sincere apologies, I had misclicked
uh not having to run SpyWareOS... er I mean Windows is a HUGE advantage in the M2 over intelThat's not even close to Intel i9-13900K series on both Single and Multi which is Intel 7 based and not even 5nm based. Power by watt is the only advantage so far.
You’ll be looking for a PC then, probably one to build to your specs! 👍🏻Either way, we still need GPU upgradeablity
There’s no such thing as Extreme, there never was. And, there won’t be. Because, Apple’s the only game in town if someone wants macOS. As a result, there’s no need to create a one-off “Extreme”, whatever they ship will be the fastest macOS system with (Mac Pro) or without (Mac Studio) PCIe slots.My guess is in eighteen months or so we will see an upgrade to some sort of M3 Ultra and Extreme options, but still same case. MAYBE PCIe5, maybe not. Then in maybe four years we'll see the really re-designed machine.
Given that the Ultra was attached to rumours that included the Extreme/Quadra version, and the Pro/Max/Ultra aspects of the rumour were perfectly correct, there is every reason to imagine that the M* Quadra was in the works. For whatever reason, Apple hasn't shipped it. Maybe with the M3, M4, or M5 Apple will ship it.There’s no such thing as Extreme, there never was. And, there won’t be. Because, Apple’s the only game in town if someone wants macOS. As a result, there’s no need to create a one-off “Extreme”, whatever they ship will be the fastest macOS system with (Mac Pro) or without (Mac Studio) PCIe slots.
I guess I also tell myself the story, and believe the rumours that the "extreme" chip failed at the prototype stage.. cost, or lack of linear scaling, no idea? which is why the ASi Mac Pro feels so phoned in. The Mac Pro team had a hard delivery date and had to cobble together something by WWDC which is why you have the MP as an M2 studio ultra and $3000 of fresh air.There’s no such thing as Extreme, there never was. And, there won’t be. Because, Apple’s the only game in town if someone wants macOS. As a result, there’s no need to create a one-off “Extreme”, whatever they ship will be the fastest macOS system with (Mac Pro) or without (Mac Studio) PCIe slots.
Fortunately, for folks that depend on Intel and Nvidia workflows, there’s a wide selection of systems to choose from.
Switch the ultra to Metal and the scores massively jump. The above is not the best case scenario, it is the worst case. Just about anything running in MacOS is running Metal now so above is not even a realistic scenario.View attachment 2216228
And it's around 250% slower than the RTX 4090 in its best-case-scenario synthetic app LOL
At least M2 Ultra is comparable with high-end RDNA 2 GPUs that are still available for MacPro7,1.Switch the ultra to Metal and the scores massively jump. The above is not the best case scenario, it is the worst case. Just about anything running in MacOS is running Metal now so above is not even a realistic scenario.