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Apple's future M3 chip for Macs and A17 chip for iPhone 15 Pro models will be manufactured based on TSMC's enhanced 3nm process known as N3E next year, according to a new report from Nikkei Asia. The devices are expected to launch throughout 2023.

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N3E will offer improved performance and power efficiency compared to TSMC's first-generation 3nm process known as N3, according to the report.

In the meantime, the report claims that Apple plans to use TSMC's first-generation 3nm process for some of its upcoming iPad chips. It's unclear which iPad models the report is referring to, as rumors suggest that Apple will update the iPad Pro next month with the M2 chip, which is manufactured based on TSMC's second-generation 5nm process. A new entry-level iPad with an older A14 chip is also expected later this year.

The report claims that 2023 could mark the second year in a row in which only the Pro models of the new iPhone lineup feature Apple's latest chip. Last week, Apple unveiled iPhone 14 Pro models with an A16 chip based on TSMC's 4nm process, while the standard iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Plus models are equipped with the previous-generation A15 chip.

Article Link: M3 Chip for Macs and A17 Chip for iPhone 15 Pro Will Reportedly Use TSMC's Second-Generation 3nm Process
 
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Malus120

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Nikkei Asia is a serious publication put out by Japan’s most prestigious business newspaper… and it’s certainly interesting to hear that they will actually be on a process better than N3… but I cant feeling like… no ****, Sherlock???
Like at this point, it would be a surprise if the A17 and the M3 were NOT on whatever TSMC’s most advanced process node available is at the time.
 

JPack

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"According to the analyst's estimate, there is a cost increase of at least 40% for the same area of silicon when moving to 3-nm chips from the 5-nm family, which includes 4-nm chips."

Combined with Kuo's prediction, sounds like Pro and Pro Max could get different chips.
 

spicynujac

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Like at this point, it would be a surprise if the A17 and the M3 were NOT on whatever TSMC’s most advanced process node available is at the time.
Yes, Apple & TSMC continue to innovate. But we shouldn't take it for granted. Keep in mind those using windows are stuck with 10nm chips from Intel's 10ESF process (later deceptively renamed to Intel 7).

Intel used to dominate the chip market, so the fact that Apple is already using chips better than anything Intel can make is pretty amazing, not to mention it's planning chips a third that size for production next year. Meanwhile Intel struggles to get decent performance out of its 10nm process.

 

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Yes, Apple & TSMC continue to innovate. But we shouldn't take it for granted. Keep in mind those using windows are stuck with 10nm chips from Intel's 10ESF process (later deceptively renamed to Intel 7).

Intel used to dominate the chip market, so the fact that Apple is already using chips better than anything Intel can make is pretty amazing, not to mention it's planning chips a third that size for production next year. Meanwhile Intel struggles to get decent performance out of its 10nm process.

The process nodes these days have just become a marketing gimmick which different companies use differently.

comparing intel and TSMC process nodes are like comparing apple to oranges.
 

UltimaKilo

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Yes, Apple & TSMC continue to innovate. But we shouldn't take it for granted. Keep in mind those using windows are stuck with 10nm chips from Intel's 10ESF process (later deceptively renamed to Intel 7).

Intel used to dominate the chip market, so the fact that Apple is already using chips better than anything Intel can make is pretty amazing, not to mention it's planning chips a third that size for production next year. Meanwhile Intel struggles to get decent performance out of its 10nm process.

Ufff, another person who fell for the “nm” gimmick. Pro tip: “nm” does not actually denote size.

Pretty soon some manufacturer will just say “-17000nm” and these people will go ape-sh*t for it! 🤣
 

StupidOpinion

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how much longer until they get one of these 3nm process chips into the apple watch? the apple watch pro is an improvement but is still ultimately a joke in any endurance capacity
 

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"According to the analyst's estimate, there is a cost increase of at least 40% for the same area of silicon when moving to 3-nm chips from the 5-nm family, which includes 4-nm chips."

Combined with Kuo's prediction, sounds like Pro and Pro Max could get different chips.
More like non-Pro models and Pro models get different chips.
 
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