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At least you get a new cool colour 😎. I am sure it was reserved from Pro to compensate for the minor performance increase re sales incentive.
 
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We have yet to see real world testing.

I think this was deliberate to improve M3 Pro battery life and to create a greater distinction between Pro and Max. Certainly the gains being seen so far for M3 over M2 as well as M3 Max over M2 Max are respectable and impressive. The M3 Max appears to be in M2 Ultra territory and the M3 is not only better than M1 Pro, but near M2 Pro territory.

Next years’s Mac Studio upgrade with M3 Max is going to be crazy.

Apple has nothing to worry about from Intel. Intel’s powerful chips drink power with garbage battery life, need the device to be plugged in for full power and generate enough heat to threaten the global climate. Apple’s silicon performs equally well whether the device is plugged in or on battery.


The M3 line is not really aimed at M2 or even M1. If you have one of those devices already you’re not likely to need to upgrade. No, it’s largely aimed at Intel, be it PC or Mac, offering a superior and better balanced performance alternative.

Big picture—within 2-3 years Apple has introduced chips 20-50 percent better than what they had in 2019-2020. Each successive upgrade is more powerful and in tandem uses progressively less power. When has the competition ever offered that?
 
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It always seemed like a short term thing for the M1 / M2 that the CPU parts of the SOCs were so similar / the same across all the parts.

It makes sense to differentiate by CPU and GPU. When that change happens there was inevitably going to be a bit of weirdness in the lineup. But next year things will make more sense.

In isolation, without M1 and M2 before it, this M3 lineup is fairly logical. Pay more money, get more CPU cores and GPU cores.
 


Apple's new M3 Pro chip with a 12-core CPU offers only marginally faster CPU performance compared to the M2 Pro chip with a 12-core CPU, according to a Geekbench 6 result spotted today by Vadim Yuryev, co-host of the YouTube channel Max Tech. This is only a single benchmark result, so further results are needed to ensure accuracy.

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Apple announced new 14-inch and 16-inch MacBook Pro models with M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max chips on Monday. This benchmark result appears to be for the 14-inch model, based on the "Mac15,6" model identifier listed.

The result shows the M3 Pro has a single-core score of 3,035 and a multi-core score of 15,173. If these scores are accurate, the M3 Pro is up to 14% faster than the M2 Pro in terms of single-core performance, but only up to 6% faster in terms of multi-core performance for the most demanding tasks and workflows.

Both the M2 Pro and M3 Pro are equipped with up to a 12-core CPU, but the M3 Pro has only six high-performance cores and six efficiency cores, while the M2 Pro has eight high-performance cores and four efficiency cores. So while the M3 Pro is manufactured with TSMC's 3nm process, compared to 5nm for the M2 Pro, the chip's resulting performance gains are diminished due to it having two fewer performance cores. The M3 Pro also has 25% less memory bandwidth and one fewer GPU core compared to the M2 Pro.

By limiting the M3 Pro's number of high-performance cores, Apple has created more differentiation between the M3 Pro and the M3 Max, which has up to 12 high-performance cores. However, as a result, the M3 Pro is only marginally faster than the M2 Pro.

Geekbench 6 results from earlier this week showed that the M3 Max is up to 45% faster than the M2 Max, while the standard M3 chip is up to 20% faster than the standard M2 chip, so the M3 Pro is by far the least improved chip of the series. Of course, the M3 Pro is still a significant upgrade for those coming from an Intel-based Mac. M3 Pro is also up to 20% faster than the M1 Pro chip, which is a decent improvement.

As always, benchmarks provide a useful reference point, but real-world performance can vary.

The new MacBook Pro models are available to order now, and M3 and M3 Pro configurations will begin arriving to customers and launch in stores on Tuesday, November 7. M3 Max configurations will launch later in November.

Article Link: M3 Pro Chip Barely Faster Than M2 Pro in Unverified Benchmark Result
better than 14900k and 13900 lol
 
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The entire tech space is dunking on Intel's 14th gen processors but Apple will get a pass with M3 being a flop.

Why?

Because Apple bribes the tech space sending them goodie bags before the event.

Intel doesn't have this type of money.
 
Not sure what disagreeing means in this context—they did it for reasons, and the reason is to sell more Max chips. Inherently that’s less good for us, the public.

I get that these boards are apologist, but does anyone actually believe that’s not why this was done, in the current rough waters for all laptop sales.

Doesn't your employer pay for the machine?
 
More performance AND higher efficiency... seems like a good improvement to me.

But then again, even the M1 is plenty fast for me and i don't see this changing anytime soon.
 
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Lower memory bandwidth affecting overall performance?

Nope.

M3 Pro = 6 efficiency cores + 6 performance cores
M2 Pro = 4 efficiency cores + 8 performance cores

So the M3 Pro focuses on battery life rather than performance. If you need performance, Apple sells the M3 Max model.
 
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That’s the genius of Apple. The M3 Pro could be a tiny square of turd attached to the motherboard, but it allows ‘space black’. It doesn’t need to be good. People want new black. Although genius upselling, this petty colour restriction makes me hate Apple just a little more.
 
That’s the genius of Apple. The M3 Pro could be a tiny square of turd attached to the motherboard, but it allows ‘space black’. It doesn’t need to be good. People want new black. Although genius upselling, this petty colour restriction makes me hate Apple just a little more.

I'm not sure why people like black. Black in general is a fingerprint magnet, so let's see how this new colour turns out.
 
The m3 product line only tells me that the yield on 3nm is very low. Especially on the m3 pro and max , so they do some serieus binning to reduce waste.
The first gen of a17 pro and m3 line of chips that are on 3nm , have a lot of production issues. Hoping that the production process will improve for the next gen.
 
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