This was already known. Nvidia had issues with 3nm too, so they are delaying it.
Apple simply decided to push forward as the only one basically.
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This was already known. Nvidia had issues with 3nm too, so they are delaying it.
Apple simply decided to push forward as the only one basically.
To be serious for a second though, I’ll wait for a true benchmark release before judging. Anything else feels like people justifying that they don’t get the coolest apple color since… well, ever.
I’ll be the first to shamelessly say this. A color like this that is more pleasing to the eye invites usage. Maybe all you workaholics and neurotyps are able to control yourselves with ease, but divergents need all the help they can get.
Alright. Send in the laughs.
I’ll be the first to shamelessly say this. A color like this that is more pleasing to the eye invites usage. Maybe all you workaholics and neurotyps are able to control yourselves with ease, but divergents need all the help they can get.
Alright. Send in the laughs.
They added a fingerprint-resistant layer of some sort to counter this.
As you said yourself, it is better to wait for a true review to see if it is actually the "coolest Apple colour". Influencers and MacRumors said the same thing about the Midnight Blue colour and that turned out to be a disaster.
Black is typically a fingerprint magnet, so we need to wait and see first before claiming Space Black is the "coolest colour".
That is what Apple said, but let's wait and see first before claiming it really is.
Well, in this case I don’t have to wait. It’s plain to see. Even with fingerprints. Also, I’m fortunate to not be a person with hyperhidrosis, so these fingerprint problems are always less bad for me.
Source: Blue Titanium iPhone user. Confirmed coolest iPhone color in Titanium. Fingerprints hardly an issue, and it doesn’t have the layer these MBPs will have.
I mean… just look!
IF and it's a big IF, accurate, then people have only one to blame for this, Intel.
Stupid sarcasm aside, it did stink when all the comparisons by Apple were made against the M1 or Intel...macs. Like...seriously?
I wonder if this will be like the 14 series by Intel, another "huge" jump in performance.
Stupid sarcasm aside, it did stink when all the comparisons by Apple were made against the M1 or Intel...macs. Like...seriously?
I wonder if this will be like the 14 series by Intel, another "huge" jump in performance.
I honestly think most Mac users don’t care about ‘performance’ or ‘cores’. They want to be seen drinking coffee with the latest MacBook. Only way to show you have the latest is buy black. So base black M3pro will be the biggest seller. Look at MKBHD, he’s even said his current MacBook is great. But he will ‘need’ black. That’s the majority of buyers.
Considering the M3 already smokes the M1 Pro, I don’t think this is a big issue.
Apple being Apple. Most of you sheep will buy it for its shinny new colour anyways 😂
Certainly, but I wonder if the Mini will also be re-segmented like the laptops have been. The two versions of the Studio were pretty different, especially on price, so hopefully Apple won't gimp the Max Studio (compared to the Ultra) like they did the M3 Pro laptops.
The irony is, it’s more sheepish to hate on Apple for being Apple.
Edit: Also, to dunk further, your reaction score pales in comparison to this sheep’s.
Do you remember another animal that only wore the clothing of the sheep?
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Yes it was but with a unpatchable hardware flaw, there is now a new flaw that can be abused using all (no idea about M3 series but I imagine they are included as chip design is locked in so long before production) so in current M (not sure about M3) and all current A series chips, that's not patched. It's hard to exploit though, and if you don't use Safari you are totally safe, so you are kinda stuffed on iPhones and iPads as other browsers are just webkit with a different skin, its been dubbed iLeakage," the exploit targets WebKit, the JavaScript engine that powers Apple's Safari browser, and is reminiscent of the Meltdown and Spectre attacks that hit Intel. A remote attacker could steal secrets such as Gmail inbox data, text messages, password manager-supplied credentials via autofill fields, and other miscellaneous information like watch histories from YouTube.
There is a mitigation but researchers noted this only applies to macOS, isn't enabled by default, and is currently marked as unstable! This is what happens when money comes before a good OS not a bug filled mess and good hardware, not SoC's rushed to production to try and keep the quaterly earnings looking good. Well thats how it feels, and since we dont know about the M3 chips lets hope they dont have these hardware issues, but Apple are not exactly known for being open about security, like Private wifi not working properly for three years, until iOS 17.1 and 14.1 were released. So much for what happens on your iPhone stays on your iPhone.
I would prefer security to be better on these M series chips after Intels fiasco a few years back and better security in Apples operating systems rather than this dash to make cash with meagre updates to keep thier necks ahead of the competion and their income too. The M1 was a great chip but you cant have a M1 every year I know that, but the M3 is not turning out to be the stunning upgrade we thought. Unless you are a niche user who needs a M3 max, so why get a M3 Pro when the M2 Pro is hardly any different in real world useage it seems so far and has more bandwidth? So a M3 Pro mini vs a M2 Pro mini may show hardly any real world gains it seems, that just makes me think Apple is running before it can walk as the competion nips at its heals. And at cost to consumers, I mean 8gb of ram, and I dont care if its called unified memory should not cost that much nor should its SSD's, and 8GB as Apples baseline for thier computers when the iPhone comes with that, on these machines is shameful and seems solely to nudge people to upgrade at rediculous prices.
The big change is the 3nm process. It's an incremental performance bump, but the efficiencies are going to really shine. And 3nm as it matures it's going be pretty incredible.
But I totally agree that right now it's just another incremental upgrade from M2.
But I totally agree that right now it's just another incremental upgrade from M2.
Funny thing with that is group 2 have no need for the benefits of an MBP. An M1 Air would handle their needs with ease. They’d probably prefer a slim and light machine too…
I don’t think this will turn out to be true. They are difficult colors to capture in photos/videos, so I look forward to some naked eye comparisons in store.
And… no fingerprint protection whatsoever instead of at least having some.
There don’t seem to be any comparisons on YouTube atm.
They'd probably just need to buy some dongles and external storage, and yes, they'd be fine.
There may be quite a lot of truth in this. My (utterly unverified) thoughts:
1) The ATP podcast went into some detail about the different TSMC processes for manufacturing 3nm chips. From memory, there is a new higher yield process that's ramping up Q4 2023. Is there going to be a quiet M3b chip (that we're unaware of unless you take the case off) that appears in the Macbook Air and Macbook Mini? Could it appear in Macbook Pro in 6 months as well as a silent change (it might not be an upgrade).
2) Do we know if the current M3 line can run fanless? With the exception of the A17, these are all going into models with fans. Is that a coincidence?
3) Somewhere along the line, rumours were that 3nm was going to be a seismic shift in chip performance. Was that wrong or is something not yet optimised along the way?
4) For those who are disappointed that the speed improvements aren't great (although we're still waiting for rendering tests, Photoshop etc. that will show the package improvements), Apple were insistent throughout the presentation about how much better these are than Intel Macs. If you bought an Intel Mac in 2019/20, 2024 is the very earliest a non-enthusiast might consider an upgrade. Apple will be keen to save costs by dropping support for Intel. Could shiny black push you into a slightly early Holiday purchase?
I think they're aware that most who spent $2500+ on M1 Macbooks are not yet ready to do the same again - they'll be waiting for the battery performance to degrade or for some wear related problem with storage.
So M3 cores are (~20%) faster, this model is just more of a differentiator from the Max by going all in on the efficiency cores: hopefully this will lead to crazy long battery life if the machine isn't doing performance intensive work, and if it is, the performance will still be amazing. Perfect positioning between the M3 and M3 Max, in my opinion.
How is anyone surprised by this? Its so crazy that each year people think the newest chip is "Going to be the one worth upgrading for from last years." Its not going to be. It will be slight improvements each year.
Obviously they can change the design, screen technology, speakers, etc. But the chip? Minor improvements year over year.
Obviously they can change the design, screen technology, speakers, etc. But the chip? Minor improvements year over year.