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The current Mac mini pro pricing is closely coordinated with Mac Studio. Where an upgraded [RAM/SSD] Mac mini M2Pro is cost competitive with the lowest end Mac Studio M2Max. With Apple trying to encourage buy up to a Mac Studio. With transitioning to the M4, I don’t see Apple wanting to radically change this tier pricing. So I would expect any price increases for M4pro Mac mini would need to be coordinated with corresponding price changes for the M4 Mac Studio [whenever it eventual get released].
Ah yes, I forgot about that. Well hopefully that doesn’t change then. I’ve been waiting for the next generation of Mac mini to be released since I bought my studio display about 6 months ago, perhaps a Mac Studio would be a better option when the new line up is announced.
 
iPad is not supposed to have high performance. The mini, which many of us use for more robust tasks, needs max performance, not some scaled down iPad like performance. If iPad performance works for you, then get an iPad. But don't screw the rest of us that need more.
I’m not sure you know how this works. The performance of the iPad will be almost identical to the Mac mini, it’s not scaled back at all. And, I’d argue any small changes in benchmarks due to thermal constraints would not be perceivable by the end user. The differentiating factor here is the OS. I’d suggest if iPad performance doesn’t work for you, don’t screw yourself and buy a more powerful Mac. However, the iPad is plenty powerful enough to type uneducated comments on online forums.
 
Honestly, I didn't love the previous Mac mini redesign when I saw it back in 2010...

It might have saved some vertical space, but its footprint increased significantly. I liked how neat and compact the original Mac mini was, and I also appreciated that the underside was rubberized in order to keep the desktop from sliding around when you go to use its inputs/outputs. So, if this Mac mini redesign means a smaller Mac mini than even the original, I'm all for it. I would love to be able to have my Mac mini sit even closer to my display. Just, hopefully it stays put when you plug a peripheral in.
 
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The complete rumour says this

"The new Mac mini is slated for release later this year and will be “far smaller than its predecessor” with a new form factor similar to the Apple TV, the report explains.

The new Mac mini will be available in two configurations, one with an M4 chip and one with the M4 Pro chip. Apple has reportedly tested models with “at least three USB-C ports on the back” alongside the power cable and an HDMI port.

The M4 Pro version of the Mac mini will also be configurable with more RAM and more powerful graphics.
Would be brilliant if it was both and Apple TV and Mac Mini. One form factor to rule them all.
 
That's your response? My 2012 model has it and you're completely missing the point about a trend towards a version no one asked for or wants. Small is for laptops.

It's clear the Mini was hurting vastly more profitable Studio sales in their eyes, but that's because they don't know how to make a actual desktop computer like the old PowerMac series, one of the best cases ever designed.

The Mac Pro is another abomination with nearly useless expansion slots in an insanely overpriced POS.

All that progress towards external graphics cards, game compatibility and useful features was tossed into the fire by greed monger Tim.
Your post makes zero sense.

On the one hand you claim that a bigger desktop case is better…yet you identify that the Mac Mini format is more popular than the larger Studio.
 
I agree with you about the overarching issues but disagree that Apple's earlier design decisions are irreversible and everyone should give up advocating. A few Apple reversals from memory:
-Mac 7,1 chassis after Mac 6,1 (6 years later)
-MacBook Pro 2021 jetisoned Touch Bar for function keys as well as restoring HDMI and MagSafe after 5 years
-Scissor-switch keyboard after multiple attempts at butterfly keyboard
I think Apple is going back on their latest MacBook Pro design and going back to their thin design language of the 2016 MacBook Pro because they enjoyed more sales with their thinner designs.

There were many reports that came down that said the new iteration of the MacBook Pro isn’t enjoying much success , so it makes sense for them to go back to what worked monetarily
 
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The current Mac Mini enclosure is bigger than it needs to be. It was introduced in 2010 and could handle a quad core Intel i7. It’s fair to say that the M4 is not in any way similar to a quad core Intel i7 from over a decade ago.
 
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If the PSU is an external unit, as it is on the M series iMacs, I will not be thrilled. Further, if it’s a proprietary connector I’ll be even less thrilled.

What does it matter? The power cord is not something you need to fiddle with, much less replace or bring around.
 
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What real advantage is there to it being smaller? You still need monitor, keyboard etc.
Many would love to have a portable/luggable desktop (and silent) computer that is not a laptop. But not at the cost of losing too much performance and too many I/O ports. It would be better if it was introduced as a separate product, e.g. Mac Tiny (lol) or even make it the next Apple TV. I always believed that Apple do not offer enough options to people and I am not talking about colours.

In an ideal world we would have a Mac Mini/Studio compact desktop that is still user-upgradable like in the old days (or even better, like the incredible G4 Cube) and an even smaller™ portable computer that you can carry in your bag, at work, at University, when switching jobs/cities every few months or years, when you go for long vacations, etc. Or fill a few needs at home (small server, retro game machine, AV media player, etc. As much as I like SBCs, there are too many times that they do not get the job done.
 
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Half the size - double the price!

We think you’re going to love it!
This should be double the price from the cheap Chinese nucs you can buy, so $399 seems to be right.
Less material, a cheaper Apple CPU compared to Intel so I am confident it should be the above amount.;)

It really should cost that much if you think about it, $699 is too much.
 
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The base model Mac Mini is actually comically oversized considering how compact and power efficient its SoC is. That aluminium box is nearly empty. However, what does this mean for the M4 Pro model that could actually use a bit of a power supply and some cooling.
 
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What does it matter? The power cord is not something you need to fiddle with, much less replace or bring around.
Hey, if it doesn’t bother you, great! For me, it’s a marker of shoddy aesthetics/design and I don’t want it. I already hate all of the devices I have which have external power bricks and I’d rather reduce, rather than increase, the amount I already have.
 
I’m not sure you know how this works. The performance of the iPad will be almost identical to the Mac mini, it’s not scaled back at all. And, I’d argue any small changes in benchmarks due to thermal constraints would not be perceivable by the end user. The differentiating factor here is the OS. I’d suggest if iPad performance doesn’t work for you, don’t screw yourself and buy a more powerful Mac. However, the iPad is plenty powerful enough to type uneducated comments on online forums.

Extended benchmark tests on the M2 Mini vs M2 iPad Pro do not support your statement at all. Heck, benchmark tests on the M2 Mini vs M2 MacBook Air even show a marked difference as a result of the active cooling.

Not sure why you imagine the M4 iPad will perform the same as an M4 desktop with active cooling.
 
Happy with my Mac mini M2 Pro, wont be updating to the M4 yet as I'm still not sure they fixed that CPU bug…
I have been wondering the same thing. Maybe the push to the M4 as the “standard” chip across the Apple device lineup is because they did fix it.

Unfortunately, maybe they didn’t.

Im not sure how to find verify… anyone out there know how?
 
Many? 🤯 Care to estimate a percentage of total buyers? 👀


Because the current one is too large and heavy to move on an annual basis? 👀
I estimate more than those who would buy 21" iMacs, is that good enough for you?

It is not, but it doesn't harm to have something even smaller/lighter. As I've stated, there should not be a need to replace the existing MacMini, better to introduce a separate product. Apple now has AppleTV, Mac Mini and Mac Studio with many configurations and still fails to satisfy everyone, most buy something just because there is no alternative.
 
I truely love the fact that Apples least popular Mac (according to reports) seems to produce the longest threads on Macrumors ! Wonder what percentage of Mac Mini owners post here? Perhaps the Mini is the ultimate enthusiast Mac. Can't wait to see what they come up with this time...

I enjoyed hearing about the poster who carries their Mini from home to office and back, the idea of powering it from the USB port of a display, Ethernet in the power brick like the iMac (2.5GB or more standard please) amongst others.

Here's hoping for a new display in October, M5 in the Mac Studio next year and upsetting nobody when testing the new Beats Pill in a cave on the Brittany coast this evening 😁
 
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