I need my mini to turn off after , apart from giving my mini a rest I have an external data ssd, a Time Machine (spinning) Backup Drive and a Monitor Attached.
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M4 Mac Mini's Power Button Has New Bottom Location
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There’s no peripherals running off the ATV so why would they complain?
Apples and potatoes as the saying goes. A set top box has no need of one, a personal computer does.
Not really sure how the peripherals affect the fact that you keep the Mac in sleep mode or you turn it completely off.
For me, it isn't about the mythical daily reboot. I do shutdown at night however due to sleep issues with external devices. My current mini doesn't play well with many of them.
When sleeping it, it causes issues with external drives, which I have many of. And many other reasons.
I just find it really, well stupid that they'd even think of doing that unless it's very clearly reachable underneath, which it definitely does not look to be. Just no reasoning. Is a button that's visible but looks fine really that horrible?
According to the Apple stans yes and you’re horrible for even suggesting this. But really- it was a corner they cut so as to not spend a bunch of money on cutting another hole and assembling the internals in some sensible fashion. It would be trivial but cost probably 4$ more per mini. Accounting for Apple funny money that’s a 200$ cost passed on to the customer.
You are right, a power button on a computer might be more needed than on an Apple TV. In fact there is one: it’s probably just that Apple has data that a Mac mini is turned off nearly as much as you would turn off your Apple TV, so they placed it accordingly.
Let’s not fool ourselves it was a cost savings measure they could’ve put an aluminium button on the side or back
I would love to see a teardown done by the folks over at I Fix It to get a better idea on what convinced Apple to add the power button to the bottom of the chassis...
It makes no sense...
It makes no sense...
It’s the Internet so people will find reasons to be outraged. Just like now they can’t complain about the base configuration 8 GB of RAM so it’s the storage they’re outraged about.
Turn off "Put hard disks to sleep whenever possible" in System Settings.
Better yet, disable sleep altogether. Computers have always had issues with it. Your Mac mini will sip power at idle without sleeping. I promise.
I agree it's a poor user experience to have the power button on the bottom. But it's also a relic of the past to constantly shut down your desktop anyway. This isn't 1995.
I can imagine the huge savings… It’s probably because in this way they will keep selling more Mac Studios with the claim “and the power button in premium aluminum is conveniently placed on the back”
Oh buddy, please do some offsite. I’d hate for you to lose precious memories or something. I’m being serious here, Time Machine is no backup. Check the 3-2-1 backup method out. Please don’t rely exclusively on Time Machine it will let you down.
Yes you are correct, I do also backup my images to Amazon Photos, my vids are on YouTube.
macOS still has a major issue with third party Thunderbolt and USB-C docks so I regularly power off or restart my system every single day. This is why I need to use a Mac Studio or just about to be pushed to a Mac Pro for IO. I wish Apple had their own dock that works better, I have tried dozens, even the $400 ones from OWC and they all have issues once my system goes to sleep. The power button location is quite horrible due to this.
Nope, that does not fix the issues. I've tried that and just about anything else you can think of.
Before I had this Mini, I had a Mac Pro (intel) which worked perfectly with everything externally. With the M1 Mini, these issues started on day one and continue to this day unfortunately. It is just compatibility issues with at least the M1 Mini, but I will assume that it will be a problem on this new one as well until proven wrong (which I sure hope to be proven wrong. If so, I'd be very happy!).
So yes, a reachable power button is an absolute necessity for my uses.
Maybe you think I’m silly for fretting but I’ve had to deal with people after they lost cherished memories. It pains me every time. Glad you’re covered
This has to be some of the worst advice I’ve read online today and the internet is a big, dark place. Do NOT do this it WILL increase wear and tear on drives and shorten their lifespan unless you’re running enterprise NAS drives like ironwolf or reds
Please spare me. I don't need to hear from the peanut gallery. Hard drives, like everything else at motion, prefers to stay at motion.