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The base M4 MacBook Pro will probably have 8GB of RAM.

Still a great choice for many people and more than enough for general productivity, photos, web email, MS Office, light video. That said - it will still cost at least $200 more to get more RAM which sucks given what it costs Apple. I've long maintained that 8GB is a decent amount with Apple silicon (much to my personal surprise) but Apple really does need to stop overcharging for RAM.

For most consumers practically nothing of note 😆

Agree. It's hard to tell between my wife's base M1, my M1Pro and my M2 Air. They all cruise through daily workloads. I know the benchmarks say otherwise, but only specialist activities such as Video Editing, Rendering, etc. can show a difference between any of the Apple silicon chips. If I was blinded as to which machine was connected to my monitor, I wouldn't be able to tell them apart!

still broke af, and still using my MacBook Pro 2015 :D

It's still a fine machine and probably worth running until it no longer serves your needs because Intel Macs aren't worth anything these days. When it finally needs replacing, the early Apple silicon machines will be cheap and all will represent an order of magnitude performance boost for you!
 
Maybe, if they are releasing them by the end of the year, Apple will use N3P for M4 Pro, Max and Ultra SoCs?

If the M4 Max is two M4 Pro SoCs stitched together (as rumored about elsewhere on these forums), then I would think the base M4, the M4 Pro, and the M4 Max will stick to N3E; the M4 Ultra and the M4 Extreme could most likely be on N3P for preview/release at WWDC 2025 though...?
 
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Considering that this means about half a year delay since the release of the M4 for iPad, can you please also remove the notch?
 
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I'm still holding onto our 14" M2. It came with 16GB/512GB standard, and Amazon charged $1749 for it (and gave us 5% credit on our Prime account on top of that). For our use, there's no logic in upgrading, as it's still under AppleCare warranty, and we don't see any lag at all in our usages.
 
Apple's M4 chip is built on an upgraded 3-nanometer node, with Apple first introducing 3-nanometer technology with the M3 line. In Geekbench 6 benchmarks, the M4 chip is up to 25 percent faster than the M3 chip when it comes to multi-core performance, so we could see similar gains for the M4 Pro and M4 Max chips.
I'm not planning to upgrade from my M1 MacBook Pro until 2026 at the earliest, but these performance gains sure are tempting. 😩
 
As much as I love the performance gains are probably gonna come from the M4 Pro chips, the introduction of the Tandem OLED on the iPad Pros has got me waiting for those to come to the MacBook before I upgrade my 2021 M1 Pro 14in.

OLED, Vastly improved response times, plus less burn in from stacked oled panels is a dream combination.

Super happy with my current macbook too so no problem waiting it out.
 
I think it is safe to say that the Mac Studio will not be getting an off-the-shelf Max chip going forward, otherwise they would have already added an M3 Max or an M4 Max later this year.

I fully expect Mac Studio will get the M4 Max next year as it's base chip (and the Mac mini an M4 Pro option). There is no real benefit to Apple to develop a dedicated desktop chip when the Pro and Max models work very well.

That being said, I could see Apple developing the Ultra model into a dedicated chip to provide better overall performance than the current "two Max" configuration. We have seen that the "two Max" solution does not scale linearly and the Mac Studio and Mac Pro offer sufficient cooling and power headroom to support an SoC that is mostly performance CPU cores, GPU cores and Neural Engine cores along with higher memory bandwidth.
 
Why is Ross Young commenting on panel shipments for an M4 MacBook Pro if its design is staying the same? 🤔

To me, this suggest there will be a different panel in the new M4 MacBook Pro.
 
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Dynamic Island coming to Mac?
No please. If removing the notch means having a much more intrusive huge pill, I'd say keep the notch. But the notch should be removed. If not having bezels is so critical for the survival of humankind (which, if true, would show how dumb humankind is), I'd say just use a minimal punch hole that doesn't interfere with the well designed Mac interface. No notch, no dynamic island, please.
 
Why is Ross Young commenting on panel shipments for an M4 MacBook Pro if its design is staying the same? 🤔

To me, this suggest there will be a different panel in the new M4 MacBook Pro.

His sources are in the supply chain, so he is likely seeing panel suppliers ramping production sharply, which would be logical if Apple is starting full-scale production of the new model on top of current model production to have sufficient stock on hand at launch to meet the initial demand.
 
Why does Apple just, hate the iMac? Compared to the other product lines it looks neglected. Give your eldest child some attention, Apple!
 
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...and here I am, still hoping Apple will bring back the 17+" MBP....

As an alternative, maybe Apple could come out with a 'hood' of sorts that will slide over the sides of the main display to provide two 16" screens to the left and right. There are already such accessories, but they require external wiring - an Apple designed product would, of course, attach to a future port Apple built in somewhere on the main display's edges...

Back to reality: I'm wondering what the max RAM will be on those M4-equipped MBPs?
 
Still a great choice for many people and more than enough for general productivity, photos, web email, MS Office, light video. That said - it will still cost at least $200 more to get more RAM which sucks given what it costs Apple. I've long maintained that 8GB is a decent amount with Apple silicon (much to my personal surprise) but Apple really does need to stop overcharging for RAM.
Until the introduction of Apple Intelligence
 
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Get an M4 ultra on MBP 16 inch with 256 GB RAM, or i will just keep my M1 Max. I am curious to see what they will do with mac Studio and Mac Pro.
 
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His sources are in the supply chain, so he is likely seeing panel suppliers ramping production sharply, which would be logical if Apple is starting full-scale production of the new model on top of current model production to have sufficient stock on hand at launch to meet the initial demand.
Right. But he usually only comments on panels for products when there's a change in the design. And to prove that point he didn't mention about the M2 or M3 MacBook Pros, or when the MacBook Air design went from M2 to M3. But he did talk about the change from M1 to M2 with the larger panel. And same thing for the new iPad Pros. So my point is his comments on panel shipments typically foreshadow a new design.
 
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Well, if many of us (including me) who have insisted they don’t care about AI (at least for the first few years) are telling the truth, we should be able to pick up a brand-new M3 MacBook Air or base MacBook Pro at really good price soon. They should be more than capable enough for our needs and last long enough to determine whether we need (or should) jump onboard with AI - or run away from it as fast as we can.
 
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...and here I am, still hoping Apple will bring back the 17+" MBP....

As an alternative, maybe Apple could come out with a 'hood' of sorts that will slide over the sides of the main display to provide two 16" screens to the left and right. There are already such accessories, but they require external wiring - an Apple designed product would, of course, attach to a future port Apple built in somewhere on the main display's edges...

Back to reality: I'm wondering what the max RAM will be on those M4-equipped MBPs?
Hoping 192 gb or 256.
 
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