Hopefully these are coming sooner rather than later so I can get a good discount on an M3 Max MBP to replace my broken 2013 model.
You already have 0 trade in valueI'm still on an intel 16". I'm considering pulling the trigger on an M3 refurb (14" pro or 15" air, haven't decided yet) but now I might just wait. The downside is my trade-in value might be even less by then.
Apple's priorities are not the same as yours.What a mess. Priorities are skewed.
He thinks it's going to be OLEDWhy is Ross Young commenting on panel shipments for an M4 MacBook Pro if its design is staying the same? 🤔
To me, this suggest there will be a different panel in the new M4 MacBook Pro.
If it is true the mac Studio will get upgraded next summer then I think it will launch M5 Ultra on N3P. Maddening performance. Air wont get it until the rest of the series gets M5 late 2025.If the M4 Max is two M4 Pro SoCs stitched together (as rumored about elsewhere on these forums), then I would think the base M4, the M4 Pro, and the M4 Max will stick to N3E; the M4 Ultra and the M4 Extreme could most likely be on N3P for preview/release at WWDC 2025 though...?
OLED in the MacBook Pros this year would be awesome but the rumor consensus has been for 2025 at the earliest.He thinks it's going to be OLED
Do you think then that the M4 gen will last until late 2025? I mean, given the huge improvement with the M4, it makes sense that it will be a long generation.If the M4 Max is two M4 Pro SoCs stitched together (as rumored about elsewhere on these forums), then I would think the base M4, the M4 Pro, and the M4 Max will stick to N3E; the M4 Ultra and the M4 Extreme could most likely be on N3P for preview/release at WWDC 2025 though...?
Can't imagine it will be that big of an improvement over the M3Watching this. I'll keep waiting for the Air, as I don't want a MBP, but I am curious what the M4 will bring over the M3.
Do you think a yearly refresh is needed?If the M4 Pro and Max comes out this fall and in a new MBP already, it’s safe to assume we will get a new M chip every year (9-18 months). Whenever it’s ready and a new product needs to be updated. They will have established their cadence.
Right now they are making do with Ultra chips for their AI servers, while at the same time developing a server-specific chip based on the M4. I think it makes more sense to have the server chips do double duty as Mac chips rather than the other way around. As it is, the Ultra is two glued-up mobile chips that do not scale properly, making them highly inefficient for proper desktop workloads. Having their server chips be true high-performance chips finally makes the Mac a viable product in and of itself, but more importantly, better performance for the server farms and the professionals whose work requires them. With chips having utilization for both servers and desktops, it would offer better economies of scale and finally make them worthwhile for Apple to produce.I fully expect Mac Studio will get the M4 Max next year as it's base chip (and the Mac mini an M4 Pro option). There is no real benefit to Apple to develop a dedicated desktop chip when the Pro and Max models work very well.
That being said, I could see Apple developing the Ultra model into a dedicated chip to provide better overall performance than the current "two Max" configuration. We have seen that the "two Max" solution does not scale linearly and the Mac Studio and Mac Pro offer sufficient cooling and power headroom to support an SoC that is mostly performance CPU cores, GPU cores and Neural Engine cores along with higher memory bandwidth.
I don’t think it’s needed with phones either, but here we are.Do you think a yearly refresh is needed?
Priorities skewed in the sense of, why did they launch it in the iPad Pro first? And they updated the Macbook Air with M3 just like 2 months before that launch?That Apple's best selling computers get updated first is a skewed priority?
What are you talking about? It is the only Apple desktop with an M3 chip, all of the other desktops (mini, studio, Pro) are still chugging along with just M2 generation chipsWhy does Apple just, hate the iMac? Compared to the other product lines it looks neglected. Give your eldest child some attention, Apple!