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M4 MacBook Pro Uses Quantum Dot Display Technology

EDS66 said:
I agree, there is little family resemblance between "quantum dot" and "quantum computing". "Quantum" just means something very very small. You wouldn't accuse of Schrödinger or Heisenberg of shameless appropriation when they named their theory of particle interactions Quantum Mechanics.
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Apparently some would.
 
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CarAnalogy said:
It's really just the one poster. Check the post history. It's a personal crusade.

I feel for the (dozens of us! (not me though)) that are affected, but I doubt posting so much about it here is going to change the global supply chain realities Cook and co are considering.
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Almost everyone is affected the only difference is how long your eyes tolerate it. PWM screens tire the eyes faster. He's an extreme case whose eyes tire the fastest with PWM, but I recommend doing an experiment. If you have access to Air (no PWM), work one day 8h on Pro and then a whole day 8h on Air.
 
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kerplunknet said:
The new MacBook Pro displays also use PWM (pulse-width modulation), even at 100% brightness. Embarrassing.
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Imagine upgrading from another M MBP and wondering what the hell is wrong with your eyes all of a sudden.
Even better, imagine having sold your previous Mac so now you’re stuck.
 
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Kylo83 said:
The last part isn’t true it’s not up to 1000nits from 600nits, it’s only 1000 nits when on auto brightness and outside in bright light, in door or with auto brightness off it’s the same 600nits max brightness and there’s no new tech it’s a software unlock. Apps like vivid let my M1 Max use full 1000nits all the time even indoors and without auto brightness on. All they have done it removed some software locks. It’s not because of new hardware at all. The old m1 MacBooks can go full brightness so why say it’s a new feature. Just let the m1 MacBooks and newer go full 1000nits all the time without 3rd party apps or each year they will improve it and say it’s another new feature when it’s not
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Because you need M4 to let the sensor be able to calculate whether you are outside or not. M1 isnt powerful enough to do this.

Its the sole reason iPad has a calculator now.
 
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CarAnalogy said:
Damnit just keep making me want one even more. The MacBook Pro M1 Pro I'm typing this on is perfectly fine!

But...mmmm those new ones look good!

If there's one thing I've learned about Apple, it's that there are "seasons" to "pick".

This is the season.
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One thing I’m learning is, the longer you keep your Apple stuff, the better your options are down the road. Last year I decided I wouldn’t get anything less than an iPhone 15 Pro, after my 11 Pro served me well.
This year I decided I wouldn’t get anything prior to the M4 MBP, should my 2017 MBP die in the next few years. Looking at what’s “possible nowadays” (2017 was a strange year) makes it worth while holding out while waiting for innovation and user feedback to do their thing.
An used M4 is probably priced Ok two years from now on 😀
 
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Parowdy said:
One thing I’m learning is, the longer you keep your Apple stuff, the better your options are down the road. Last year I decided I wouldn’t get anything less than an iPhone 15 Pro, after my 11 Pro served me well.
This year I decided I wouldn’t get anything prior to the M4 MBP, should my 2017 MBP die in the next few years. Looking at what’s “possible nowadays” (2017 was a strange year) makes it worth while holding out while waiting for innovation and user feedback to do their thing.
An used M4 is probably priced Ok two years from now on 😀
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Would argue base iterations are keeping their value quite well, whereas the upgraded ones would drop a bit more. "Shifts in paradigms" changes that picture somewhat, but sellers seems to pretend that isn`t the reality. Would argue there will be a split between iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Pro/iPhone16. For Mac Minis, there are 2 notable splits. Intels, M1/M2 and M4.

A base Mini M2 Pro should be a bit less worth than the base M4. About the same performance (M2pro better on graphic and have abt 2 years shorter software update period). Base M1 Max has a even shorter update period and also has somewhat better performance than the M4 Mini which is competitive on CPU, Neural and probably media engine (haven`t checked).

In my opinion, they are a quite bit overpriced in the 2nd hand market, as much as I like both M2 Pro and M1 Max, both would have to be cheaper than the new M4 Mini to trigger any sort of interest from yours truly. The intels would be interesting for running Linux, (not for me, they require USB A cables which I want to loose completely).
 
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terminator-jq said:
I KNEW this screen looked different compared to my old M1 Max. I thought it was just my imagination or the new tech honeymoon phase. Glad to see my eyes aren’t playing tricks on me. The difference is slight but it’s definitely there. Everything looks a touch richer especially when working with DCI-P3 content.

M4 lineup continues to prove itself as the best laptop for creators.
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Agree. I've still got my M1 MBP Pro (which I plan on selling) and when I switch between my M4 and the M1 there is a noticeable difference (granted I also have the nano texture display on the M4). overall this M4 screen seems superb.
 
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Was looking at them in the Apple Store and thought they looked better than ever. Now I know why. Wonder why Apple didn’t mention this. Weird.
 
I'm assuming that this is a QD film between the miniLED backlight and the colour filters in the same way that the Samsung QLED displays operated (i.e. the QD film is not producing the actual colours in a manner similar to the recent QD-OLED technology).

PODshady said:
They could mix the 2 technologies. My Samsung S95C TV is an OLED with a layer of Quantum Dots and the color is absolutely amazing!
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They would then be tied to a single producer as Samsung Display own the patents (and likely the trade secrets) on how to produce QD colour filter displays.
 
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