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I have the most recent Intel MacBook Pro, and I don’t wanna have it another day, much less the next five years. It will not receive OS updates beyond Tahoe. It’s slow. It’s hot all the time. It has a fraction of the power of the M5. Nobody in their right mind would want an Intel MacBook Pro now, nor would they want one any day forward from now either.
You are 100% correct. This was precisely my experience with my 2020 i7 Intel MBP. I feel a little guilty for selling it to a nice lady for $550. I'm typing this on a new M5 MBP. It's heaven! Oh, and yes, I did need to update some software—big whoop. C'est la vie.
 
Why do people still talk about Bill Gates when talking about Microsoft? He stepped out of the CEO position in 2000 and left the company in 2006! You could say he was in the board of directors until 2020, but he was not even an employee anymore!
Because he was the one that oversaw the restrictive practice contracts that tied enterprise users into Windows.
 
I don’t believe consumers who work with general office documents, surfing the web, emails etc care about the things mentioned. At the end of the day a computer is a tool to complete a basic office task and nothing more which is based on price. It’s like saying well this hammer has a nicer handle compared to that one but it cost double the price. The question in these types of consumers mind is it able to complete the task at hand and for how much less.
Not all consumers using computers for the office are like that. Some like build quality, smooth operation, etc. The presumption that price is all important is pretty much nonsense. In environments where people choose their own machines I see a good proportion of Macs.
 
Games are a lot more complicated. GUI apps are much more forgiving, the biggest hurdle with older non-game stuff is if they have a 32-bit installer or not. If they do then they can often work with no trouble. Photoshop 5.5 for example from 1999 works just fine even on Windows 11 on ARM. Literally just tested it for giggles. Could even use the pen, no pressure sensitivity though.

With tools like winevdm you can even get through 16 bit installers or run 16 bit apps.


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Interesting, so not fully functional, but definitely usable. Yeah with Oni, it was not the installer, but some of the other underlying frameworks.

It also kind of highlights the original issue though. That software SUCKS at this point. If I did a project in current photoshop, and you did one in that, and we compared time and results, no one would be using that old software anyway.
 
I don’t agree with this at all… we shouldn’t hinder future advancements solely for background compatibility unless it’s mission critical to the core experience.

As time goes on, things, like maybe some APIs for example, will be updated in ways that inevitably break certain old software - requiring the developer to make the appropriate changes to restore the functionality on newer OS’s versions.

If I discontinued my own software from 10 years ago, I’m likely not going to go back to update it when either A) newer versions are available (which there are many of in OP’s case) or if B) there are only a small subset of users for said software since it can take a lot of time and effort - especially when one has more important or mission critical projects to work on. I don’t believe that this should be forced on a developer.

Obviously there are some cases, however few, where I could agree that developers should update older software, but this isn’t one of them.
it is actually quite simple to keep the support going by adding translation/emulation layers like roseta, no need to 'hinder future advancements' (whatever that is), but it is much more profitable to simply force people to pay again and again for the same things. It is working wonderfully for apple.
 
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On the flip side, my observation is that developers (in general not just Adobe) worked harder to release better .0 versions when they were packaged. Now it just seems like an ongoing stream of fixing things that shouldn't have shipped while breaking new things, followed by releasing fixes for those things...

Regardless like the previous poster I am uninterested in having to pay rent to retain access to my property.
Yes also true. Developers just need to be better. It is probably something that needs to happen industry wide -- stop with the meaningless feature grab and start actually fixing things that haven't been fixed in forever and start optimizing the code more.
 
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Just couple of years, maybe 3-4 while covid. but I paid a lot and I am happy with it.
Welcome to the new pricing model for everything. Pay us for the rest of your life, otherwise we’ll hold your files hostage and lock you out of something you’ve paid for decades. And also you have to pass these new costs onto your customers, who will be fewer afterward. You own nothing, ever again. Be happy!
 
None of this makes any sense. I’ve spent a couple of days on this, and literally nothing works. The only things I managed to get working are Office and Affinity—which, to be polite, is a bad joke compared to any version of Photoshop I’ve used since the 1980s. Even the iPad I’m using offers better photo-editing capabilities than Affinity.

People need to understand this: I work on MacBook Pros—work, not gaming or entertainment. Releasing the latest MacBook Pro without proper photo and video editing software support on Tahoe 26.2 is ridiculous. That is why they are dusting any stores, and yes I am using Costco because of super return option (90 days) but not because of green bananas there. Enjoy!
 
None of this makes any sense. I’ve spent a couple of days on this, and literally nothing works. The only things I managed to get working are Office and Affinity—which, to be polite, is a bad joke compared to any version of Photoshop I’ve used since the 1980s. Even the iPad I’m using offers better photo-editing capabilities than Affinity.

People need to understand this: I work on MacBook Pros—work, not gaming or entertainment. Releasing the latest MacBook Pro without proper photo and video editing software support on Tahoe 26.2 is ridiculous. That is why they are dusting any stores, and yes I am using Costco because of super return option (90 days) but not because of green bananas there. Enjoy!
So what you are saying is that you do not check or research to make sure the software you "have to" run on your systems actually works correctly on the latest OS releases? I feel like nearly all professionals using Macs for anything in the graphic design space know this; mostly from being burned so many times by Apple and Adobe.
 
None of this makes any sense. I’ve spent a couple of days on this, and literally nothing works. The only things I managed to get working are Office and Affinity—which, to be polite, is a bad joke compared to any version of Photoshop I’ve used since the 1980s. Even the iPad I’m using offers better photo-editing capabilities than Affinity.

People need to understand this: I work on MacBook Pros—work, not gaming or entertainment. Releasing the latest MacBook Pro without proper photo and video editing software support on Tahoe 26.2 is ridiculous. That is why they are dusting any stores, and yes I am using Costco because of super return option (90 days) but not because of green bananas there. Enjoy!
Can you please tell us the version of Photoshop you are trying to run.
 
So what you are saying is that you do not check or research to make sure the software you "have to" run on your systems actually works correctly on the latest OS releases? I feel like nearly all professionals using Macs for anything in the graphic design space know this; mostly from being burned so many times by Apple and Adobe.
This is not just an Adobe-related issue. Try running an older or latest version of CorelDRAW—try anything, really. It feels more like Apple’s shift away from Intel: dropping support for important software titles that people have happily used on Macs for decades. And yes, I was sure it will work! Because my 2 previouse macbooks pro been super and support anything.
 
This is not just an Adobe-related issue. Try running an older or latest version of CorelDRAW—try anything, really. It feels more like Apple’s shift away from Intel: dropping support for important software titles that people have happily used on Macs for decades. And yes, I was sure it will work! Because my 2 previouse macbooks pro been super and support anything.
It is not Apple's job to make sure the developers of CorelDRAW update their software to run on the latest OS. Apple does not operate like Microsoft. Microsoft will keep aged APIs in Windows forever because they have to with the market share they command. Apple does not and has no problems dropping old APIs for newer ones. Anyway here is the list of compatible Adobe stuff that runs on Tahoe (supposedly). I can not confirm since I am not running Tahoe on any of my systems.

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It is not Apple's job to make sure the developers of CorelDRAW update their software to run on the latest OS. Apple does not operate like Microsoft. Microsoft will keep aged APIs in Windows forever because they have to with the market share they command. Apple does not and has no problems dropping old APIs for newer ones. Anyway here is the list of compatible Adobe stuff that runs on Tahoe (supposedly). I can not confirm since I am not running Tahoe on any of my systems.

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It is just a words in chart. I am not sure even for what people are getting macboocs pro now, waiting for years untill all will rewrite software for the M5? People could get Windows and run anything, I don't care what model or API they are running, I am customer and I am always right.
 
It is just a words in chart. I am not sure even for what people are getting macboocs pro now, waiting for years untill all will rewrite software for the M5? People could get Windows and run anything, I don't care what model or API they are running, I am customer and I am always right.
The customer isn't always right; and doubly so when it comes to computing. I will say it again, it is not Apple's job to make sure developers update their software to work with the latest abortion of an OS that Apple releases. Just about everyone knows that Apple has no problem whatsoever dropping APIs. And this has nothing to do with PowerPC/Intel/Apple Silicon. It has been this way since I have used Apple Macintosh products. And I have been using them across all 3 CPU architectures; and have been burned at least once or twice on every one.
 
He may have set up his new Mac from the old one, carrying across all sorts of cruft and junk?
That is a possibility. Not sure why anyone would think that crossing stuff over from an Intel Mac would work going to an Apple Silicon Mac, at least application wise. Now if my Mom or Grandma did that I would not be surprised; but someone who claims to be a professional graphic artist -- they ought to know better by now.
 
That is a possibility. Not sure why anyone would think that crossing stuff over from an Intel Mac would work going to an Apple Silicon Mac, at least application wise. Now if my Mom or Grandma did that I would not be surprised; but someone who claims to be a professional graphic artist -- they ought to know better by now.
Agreed. I went from i9 Intel to M4. Set the machine up as new. It took longer, but everything works.
 
Interesting, so not fully functional, but definitely usable. Yeah with Oni, it was not the installer, but some of the other underlying frameworks.

It also kind of highlights the original issue though. That software SUCKS at this point. If I did a project in current photoshop, and you did one in that, and we compared time and results, no one would be using that old software anyway.
I'm not sure if PS 5.5 supports pressure sensitivity to begin with, definitely not with the newer different APIs the Surface Pen is using at least. Maybe an ancient Wacom would work?

And yeah, it's not the best choice these days for sure. I think Paint.net will pretty much steam roll it for $0 and supports Hi-DPI, pressure sensitivity, etc. But depending on what your doing it might make sense, like opening old projects or if it was a program long since forgotten with no newer alternative. I'd imagine CS6 is still perfectly usable for a lot of workflows too so there's definitely still some value in being able to run old software.
 
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I do not think anyone is arguing that there may be some value in running old software -- but that has never been the way Apple works. If you need to run that old stuff then you need an older machine to run it on. That is just the fact of life working within Apple's ecosystem.
 
I'm not sure if PS 5.5 supports pressure sensitivity to begin with, definitely not with the newer different APIs the Surface Pen is using at least. Maybe an ancient Wacom would work?

And yeah, it's not the best choice these days for sure. I think Paint.net will pretty much steam roll it for $0 and supports Hi-DPI, pressure sensitivity, etc. But depending on what your doing it might make sense, like opening old projects or if it was a program long since forgotten with no newer alternative. I'd imagine CS6 is still perfectly usable for a lot of workflows too so there's definitely still some value in being able to run old software.
Yeah I actually have CS6 and it is so painful to install I haven't done it to any of my Windows installs in YEARS.

That said, the OP need to either use an old *** Mac and use the software in question with old *** software, or just switch to Windows. (Good luck!)

I just use other products such as Affinity Photo (now Affinity...).
 
OP does not tell which version of the software he allegedly owns. A lot of people uses the same software on M5 (including myself) with no problems, except for this Movavi that I never heard of

It is legit, founded in 2004 although i have never seen it or heard about it until now.
 
I don’t believe consumers who work with general office documents, surfing the web, emails etc care about the things mentioned. At the end of the day a computer is a tool to complete a basic office task and nothing more which is based on price. It’s like saying well this hammer has a nicer handle compared to that one but it cost double the price. The question in these types of consumers mind is it able to complete the task at hand and for how much less.
of course they might not, but this is a post specifically replying to someone complaining about the professional image- and video processing software he needs for work that supposedly isn't working on his expensive Mac when a "similarly specced $700 windows laptop" would do the trick "perfectly". I'm not talking about general consumers, I'm talking about people claiming they do professional video editing with plugins and professional software needed.
 
Try running an older or latest version of CorelDRAW—try anything, really.
The latest version of CorelDraw (from their website) claims to work on Tahoe.
Indeed.
Compatibility
Works on this Mac
My Mac mini is running macOS 26.2
Compatibility
Mac
Requires macOS 12.0.0 or later.

And, of course, the latest/recent versions of Photoshop are also macOS Tahoe compatible.

Now, they are subscription based. I’d rather not be tied (i.e., subscriptions) to something, although, I realize that it’s reasonable in at least some cases. However, despite your @Breitling65 you’re a good candidate for the subscription model. That is, you’re dedicated to the app(s).

In other words, earlier single-up-front price Photoshop versions were several hundred dollars. For example, the original was $895 and version 7.0 was $609. If, whenever you wanted to upgrade, it would be another couple hundred dollars (e.g., $149, $199).

Even sticking to the attitude/position of rarely or never upgrading versions, it would be about two years at the current pricing (i.e., $20-30 per month) to equal what you were paying in the previous expense model for a single (major) version of Photoshop. Plus, as others have mentioned, with the current Adobe Creative Cloud plans you have access to cloud storage and other services. Furthermore, the $20 Photography package/plan includes Lightroom and Lightroom Classic as well as Photoshop.


Ultimately, the situation isn’t that none of your (mentioned) necessary/essential/critical software applications are not compatible, won’t work with your latest/new Mac; it’s seemingly that you’re too unwilling to accept a solution, which is to pay the recent expense. Presumably, because you mention necessary and for work (“People need to understand this: I work on MacBook Pros—work, not gaming or entertainment.” Post #133), these tools provide revenue, which compensates (and hopefully overcome) the expenses; that’s just business 101.

In other words, continue doing business as usual.
 
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