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No unless Apple has been able to reengineer the component to be much much thinner. The current FaceID is almost as thick as a phone. Both are much thicker than the lid of a MacBook. Unless you want a thick bump on the lid, we aren’t getting FaceID in the near term.
 
What's the benefit of this change?

User choice? And these are rumors, don't forget.

Another rumor is that there will be a separate "thin" iPhone. If this notion carried over to Macs, then not all MacBooks would be thinnest and lightest possible as a rule. Just one or some.
 
No one has commented the obvious: they might get rid of the notch.
I hope you're right. Fact is, they could get rid of the notch tomorrow if they wanted to. Multiple manufacturers have shown that a 1080p camera can be made to fit in very thin bezel, e.g., Dell, Microsoft.
 
Makes you wonder how they're going to achieve that 'thinner' MacBook Pro, smaller silicon..? Are we going to see a return of the teardrop style that the Air and rMB had a few years ago? I'd upgrade my old 12 rMB to a Pro if the redesign results in a more compact and portable device without sacrificing performance of the current Pro.
 
You can but that takes smart engineering and I’m not so sure Apple has the talent it needs to pull it off. They have chased away some good talented engineers.
I can see this. Overall the product and engineering team is no longer quite the same one that built the original iPhone and Mac.

They're still very damn good and quite ahead relative to competitors, but I won't say they have the same level of clarity as the previous generation.
 
The problem is that Max doesn't help, Ultra2 is meaningless today. You try Baldur's Gate 3 on an MBP 16" M3 Max 40-core, and with not full (2.5K) resolution, the game barely gives a stable 60fps, heats up like in Averno or “breathes” coolers like a dragon throughout the whole room. With such inputs, make the device even thinner to weaken the already failing cooling system?
Worth noting that I was not supporting the ‘make MacBooks thinner’ initiative in the first place.
 
Thinner will mean less KB travel, which makes a laptop LESS useful for many people.
I played with both the Air and the M2 Pro at a store not that long ago. If there is a difference in keyboard travel between the two, I didn't feel it. They both seemed to have the same very-low-travel keys. My 2010 Macbook feels great by comparison.
 
I played with both the Air and the M2 Pro at a store not that long ago. If there is a difference in keyboard travel between the two, I didn't feel it. They both seemed to have the same very-low-travel keys.

I'm pretty sure the entire line-up has the same keys, yes.

One exception would be 2015, where the MacBook had the Butterfly Keyboard, and the Air and Pro didn't yet (the Pro got it in 2016, and the Air in 2018, or maybe went straight to its successor?).

My 2010 Macbook feels great by comparison.

It took me some getting used to, and it may be a little worse, but… I just tried in Monkeytype, and reached 138 wpm at 97% accuracy, so I gotta say, it's fine.

I would be curious what I would've reached with the Butterfly Keyboard. Never had one.
 
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I play plenty of games at 30+ FPS on my M1 Pro MBP. Civ VI and BG3 run well with at least high detail, hitting 60+ fps. There are maybe rare frame drops, but I've had random frame drops on my RTX 3070 / 5900x Ryzen system as well.

Sure, you might not hit 300 FPS with Ultra quality at 6k resolution in Cyberpunk 2077, but for the games that work on Mac, most will play well. This is quite impressive for what's effectively an iGPU solution.

If you really want to game on a Mac though, get an M3 Max.
Hello, May I ask you a question ?

Does your MBP get loud when you play games like BG3 ? Do you often hear the Fan noise when gaming ?

Thanks.
 
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