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Simply put, a blockchain is just a distributed ledger. You can record data in a “block” and it can’t be changed later on.

While the most common use of a blockchain is currency, that doesn’t mean it’s the only thing it can be used for. You could use a blockchain to keep track of any type of data/transaction you choose.

We have that already. Its called a database. The incentive to secure the network for a cryptocurrency in an immutable structure is the mining reward.
 
Not only a plague, but also a scam. How can you create currency by running a GPU? Normally money is based on I-ow-you (with a certain standard, gold, silver or holding some other assets to back it up), this is just warm air blown up your...... It is just a pyramid game, and you should not be holding the short-stick when the music stops.

It may not be Bitcoin, but you've got to be pretty short-sited to think that once they get past this volatile time, there won't be a crypto-currency that begins to replace fiat in a real way.
 
Any app that has mining in any form in the app, be it 'opt-in' or not, should not be allowed on the app store. Period.
 
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How is the Bitcoins that is mined on my device depositet in to my bankaccount?
Obviously the app-maker would never take Bitcoins mined on MY device using my hardware an my paid electricity, that would be stealing!
 
It’s like yeast. Yeast by itself is nothing new, or special. But combine it with flour and water and you make (open source) bread.

You can and will have non-currency applications off the bitcoin blockchain.

The blockchain doesn’t serve a purpose without a token/currency. Non-currency applications can/should be built off existing (and most secure) blockchains like bitcoin.


I don’t pretend to know nearly enough about blockchain (yet) to support a more detailed argument, however there are a lot of rumblings in my industry that blockchain could be the next big thing.

An industry, (Architecture/Construction) that is slowly embracing the advantages of technology and BIM (Building Information Modelling) which would benefit from a secure and legally binding way in which to track development and changes in a building design throughout its design and construction. As you can imagine, every change has a cost and depending on the contract value can quickly enter the realms of tens of thousands....
 
Bitcoin mining is a plague. Such a wasteful wasteful wasteful use of resources to create what only amounts to an agreement between people. Its like burning down an entire forest so a few people can say they're richer than the others. Despicable.

Doesn't that also apply to mining metal to make into coins, or mashing trees to make into bank notes? Or indeed the entire monetary system on which you bought the Mac with which you type?!
 
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Do something nefarious without user permission, then blame it on "bugs" when you're caught. Wow.

Maybe. It could be done on purpose, but it could also easily be a bug. Statements like yours are easy to make since it's almost impossible to prove either way.
 
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Strange explanations from them. They didn't stop to think about wasting electricity etc BEFORE rolling it out? What comes to the 'CPU issue', what do you expect? Mining consumes power.
 
But in order for a block chain to exist, you need a token. You cannot separate the ‘currency’. When will you people get it?
I’m quite well aware of how blockchaining works. The issue is that the token doesn’t need to be open to the world. In fact, many applications of block chain are restricting the use of the token generators to selected trusted entities. While it may sound nice to say it’s all federated and all, the reality is that real-world use of blockchain won’t resemble the mining for bitcoin. Bitcoin is an application of blockchain. Bitcoin is not blockchain. That seems to be something that gets mixed up a lot and especially of those who are fans of crypto currencies.
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You have to reward the nodes for storing and verifying the information and provide an incentive for them to not try screwing things up. I can't think of a way to do that without it being a currency and without it being centralized somewhere. But I've also forgotten for the 10th time some of the details on how this works, so someone oughtta prove me wrong if I'm wrong.
Look up pokitdok and how they’re implementing blockchain. It uses ethereum but is not currency based, bitcoin based, and it doesn’t use a ledger available to just anyone. This is how blockchaining will look when it grows up.
 
Man... how much money would running that calendar app have generated them?

Hook me up with a money generating app, I'll buy an iMac Pro and never turn it off.

I await everyone's loving comments about my ignorance!
 
The intern that ran the Mac App Store has left the company so unlikely to get a response.
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Gold standard ended in 1973. Fiat currencies are worth whatever someone is willing to pay for them, just like crypto.

Actually fiat currencies are backed by the entire economy that uses them - which is protected by the military of the government overseeing that economy. The US dollar is as legit as the US military says it is and it is also the default currency for the global oil trade. Crypto currencies have no economy, oil or military backing their value.
 
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Not only a plague, but also a scam. How can you create currency by running a GPU? Normally money is based on I-ow-you (with a certain standard, gold, silver or holding some other assets to back it up), this is just warm air blown up your...... It is just a pyramid game, and you should not be holding the short-stick when the music stops.

How can you create currency by running a paper press (or even more simple to enter some figures in a computer)?
 
Im afraid in the future will be Ads vs Miners

Vs Pay for it all up front Vs Subscriptions Vs Pay per Feature Vs Installment Payments/Financing

What's the problem here? It's all choice for the consumer. We always had choices anyways - we could have paid debit or credit, either paying now with money we received in the past, or paying later with money that we potentially haven't received yet.

And cars have a variety of ways you can own them. You could either pay up front, or you could lease (which is basically just a subscription) or you could finance. You don't complain about those options... what makes these options any worse?

Between the two, I think I'd rather do the mining than the ads.
 
Actually fiat currencies are backed by the entire economy that uses them - which is protected by the military of the government overseeing that economy. The US dollar is as legit as the US military says it is and it is also the default currency for the global oil trade. Crypto currencies have no economy, oil or military backing their value.

The military oversees the economy? lol
 
This made me think. Could this be the future? You buy a computer, and then use apps for free because the apps can use your computer to generate money while you're not using it... making it pay for itself? That would be interesting. Would this work?
 
Basel is a non binding set of regulations relating to the legacy fiat system that failed spectacularly if you recall. Not relevant to the topic at hand.

Incorrect, as Basel has been converted into local laws like in the Netherlands. So over here, you money is asset back-up: very relevant.
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It may not be Bitcoin, but you've got to be pretty short-sited to think that once they get past this volatile time, there won't be a crypto-currency that begins to replace fiat in a real way.

The point is that this currency does not represent anything, is is just made up. As in previous post discussed, money was back-up with gold or silver in the past. Nowadays money is back-up with assets, at least with reliable banks. This whole crypto thing is just fiction of people making money in an easy, making you believe you can do the same. The volatility just represent the inherent risk of this type of currency: extremely high. This is never going to change.
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How can you create currency by running a paper press (or even more simple to enter some figures in a computer)?

Money was invented by gold smiths in the past issuing "I-ow-you" papers which were back-up by their gold (hence the gold standard. So it was not just running a press. Economies doing this anyways, like Germany around the 1900 tried this and they faced inflation rates of astronomic proportions. (I actually owned a 1.000.000 Deutsch Mark bill worth absolutely nothing). When money is not back-up properly (just have a look at Lehman Brothers in 2008), the whole financial system collapse. So, monetary economics is just a bit ore then just running a press or hitting a key on your computer. Crypto currency are very dangerous and equal to a pyramid game: just waiting to collapse.
 
The intern that ran the Mac App Store has left the company so unlikely to get a response.
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Gold standard ended in 1973. Fiat currencies are worth whatever someone is willing to pay for them, just like crypto.
Fiat currencies are backed by the government-- the only entity that can legally print money from nothing, and has more of it than any one else on earth. It is in their interests to maintain order by maintaining the value of the dollar. Bitcoin is backed by nothing and nobody.
 
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Cryptocurrency is an interesting gimmicky thing. It only has value because the lot of us have decided it does. For me it feels like Beanie Babies. Everyone was buying them and then they lost all their value. Hell some were going on ebay for 50k (stupid princess the bear). But is any of it worth the value we've assigned to it. Sure, if you pay that much for it than it is. It's all a gimmick. What is nice about this one is that the only people making money are the ones with the currency. I don't think the originator of the currency makes money. If they did, that would be an interesting story...
 
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I’m quite well aware of how blockchaining works. The issue is that the token doesn’t need to be open to the world. In fact, many applications of block chain are restricting the use of the token generators to selected trusted entities. While it may sound nice to say it’s all federated and all, the reality is that real-world use of blockchain won’t resemble the mining for bitcoin. Bitcoin is an application of blockchain. Bitcoin is not blockchain. That seems to be something that gets mixed up a lot and especially of those who are fans of crypto currencies.

Wrong. By limiting token generators to select trusted entities, you lose the decentralized qualities (more nodes) and the system can still be compromised via a computing power attack.

So the security is lost. Making the application of the blockchain useless.
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Actually fiat currencies are backed by the entire economy that uses them - which is protected by the military of the government overseeing that economy. The US dollar is as legit as the US military says it is and it is also the default currency for the global oil trade. Crypto currencies have no economy, oil or military backing their value.
What happens when the USD isn’t the default currency for oil trade? What happens when countries start backing their currency by gold and bitcoin?
 
Mining by default is bad, but generally, CC mining is good alternative to advertisements. But this needs to be customers choice.
Especially on webpages on the desktop I'd rather have webpage mine for 5 mins on my CPU or GPU rather than having 5 gazillion ads on the page -which, ironically, also often consumes ridiculous amounts of CPU power.
 
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