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This is the first release of OS X & related software I'm not interested in installing.

The mess they've made of iOS was bad enough. I can't have an office full of workstations that look like android phones for hyperactive 9 year olds.


This may be where we get off the train.
 
I would have thought Apple would have announced the GA Yosimite for developers. This previously has occurred a day before general availability?
 
this is the first release of os x & related software i'm not interested in installing.

The mess they've made of ios was bad enough. I can't have an office full of workstations that look like android phones for hyperactive 9 year olds.


This may be where we get off the train.

+1
 
I have never been one to notice bugs, however I am having crazy graphical problems with finder were I can't click things unless I expand the window more. I can't believe in a RC I am still seeing blatant problems like that.


Empty windows too? Black blocks instead of text under the icons?


Welcome to the club.
 
I am planning to order a new MBP 15" Retina. I'd like it to come with 10.9 so I can move to 10.10 on my own time frame. How long after 10.10 officially ships, will it appear on new Macs?

If there are no changes tomorrow to the 15" MPB, I assume that even if I get one with 10.10, I can install 10.9 on it as long as I can boot into 10.9 from an external drive that I already have, right?
 
I am planning to order a new MBP 15" Retina. I'd like it to come with 10.9 so I can move to 10.10 on my own time frame. How long after 10.10 officially ships, will it appear on new Macs?

If there are no changes tomorrow to the 15" MPB, I assume that even if I get one with 10.10, I can install 10.9 on it as long as I can boot into 10.9 from an external drive that I already have, right?

1) I'm really hoping for broad well MBPs tomorrow so I'm not on your side
2) it all depends on stock but you should have about a month to get a MBP with 10.9 pre installed. That may change and may not.
 
I am planning to order a new MBP 15" Retina. I'd like it to come with 10.9 so I can move to 10.10 on my own time frame. How long after 10.10 officially ships, will it appear on new Macs?

If there are no changes tomorrow to the 15" MPB, I assume that even if I get one with 10.10, I can install 10.9 on it as long as I can boot into 10.9 from an external drive that I already have, right?

They'll have it on day one I would imagine.

But, yeah, it's easy enough to downgrade if you wipe your SSD and start clean with Mavericks.
 
10.10 is likely to be first supported version on newly released Macs... Because usually it comes out with OS that is released that year. But you might be lucky :)
 
You mean the bug when you wake your computer and it doesn't conntect to the network, and you have to reboot your computer to get it to work? Me too!

Uhhhhh yessss! This was the biggest bug that found while using the beta. Because of this, I had to go back to Mavericks. I couldn't take it anymore! Lol.

I plan on going back when it officially releases though.
 
I'm not upgrading

I tell you one thing. IOS8 is a sluggish piece of big black :apple:

NEW OSX, will wait for a review from you guys, and still will wait a month to make sure this piece of :apple: will work.

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:
 

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Can't wait to see how Pixelmator 3.3 will make it on Yosemite.

They promised some UI changes, which are long overdue because Pixelmator 2 (and 3) is what it never should have been.
 
I have never been one to notice bugs, however I am having crazy graphical problems with finder were I can't click things unless I expand the window more. I can't believe in a RC I am still seeing blatant problems like that.

There are several Finder glitches. I don't know if they are working on them, but a couple of my bug reports have been closed, because they were the same as previous reports. Maybe they just have a quota of eliminating so many bug reports per month.
 
Oh wow. I wasn't expecting them to approve apps until Yosemite was released. My app is still stuck in review and this was 10 days ago. Wonder when they will approve it.
 
 Mac OS X 10.6.8 Snow Leopard. Best OS X Yet.

Word!

Mavericks is still so damn buggy and dumbed-down compared to Snow Leopard, it's frustrating.

And before anyone falsely accuses me of being a grumpy change-hater, know that I have a big, long list of legitimate problems with post-Snow Leopard OS X on file and I won't hesitate to use it!
 
Well I guess OS X mail will be released broken again.

And to clarify, to all those who say it works...
hook up to an exchange server and watch it suck in front of your eyes, along with IMAP with multiple folders.

At least Airmail works pretty damn good though.

Oh, and wifi sucks too.

:mad:

I used an exchange server with mail. . . And it works. Wifi rocks for me.

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Word!

Mavericks is still so damn buggy and dumbed-down compared to Snow Leopard, it's frustrating.

And before anyone falsely accuses me of being a grumpy change-hater, know that I have a big, long list of legitimate problems with post-Snow Leopard OS X on file and I won't hesitate to use it!

Use it :p I agree os x snow leopard was the windows xp of that day though.
 
I used an exchange server with mail. . . And it works. Wifi rocks for me.

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Use it :p I agree os x snow leopard was the windows xp of that day though.

Mountain Lion was pretty stable. Mavericks has been a train wreck for me. Snow Leopard is too past it today, especially if you want to use Safari or a number of other applications which are 10.7 and up.
 
Why oh why do people still recommend reinstalling OS X, this is not Windows, problems are almost always fixed without a reinstall.

Developing since 10.0, that was the case as development required a clean install with each beta release over 1-2 years. Since 10.7, delta updates have caused issues as development progresses (third party app's, plug-ins, poorly executed updates). Since Federighi took over with annual release cycles, clean installs and only restoring personal data from a backup, then installing app's makes a huge difference (it's not a placebo effect, I've run enough tests against various systems and installs with significant results). I've been running 10.10 on a sep. partition on my nMac Pro 8-Core, iMac, 2012 Mac Mini HTPC, and rMBP. I've performed a clean install on my Mac Pro and Mac Mini around DP7; memory management was taking a system graphics stammered severely (should not be an issue on a dual FirePro D700 system).

Now I highly recommend a clean install for OS X updates.
 
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