sunfast said:
The whole review sounds like a complete bald-faced lie to me written by a kid. I'm sure there will be other more realistic reviews up there soon enough.
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The whole review sounds like a complete bald-faced lie to me written by a kid. I'm sure there will be other more realistic reviews up there soon enough.
Almost certainly a Windows ZealotBlue Velvet said:
Although i agree with the 'limitations' part. Mac limits the amount of viruses and crases you have - the windows platform has none of those limitations
Chip NoVaMac said:
Oy, vey! REALLY?!!!! I hope you and the other Mac folks over there have given this person a demonstration or two in what the reality is.... You've got a Mac there in the store; have someone bring in a Windows PC laptop or something and run comparative tests.... you know, do some multitasking with both machines, and then let that person see who comes out smelling like a rose! LOL!!!
I doubt it. That model has kinda been discontinued anyway. Let's see what happens with the Intel Mac that's replacing it.Blue Velvet said:
It all depends
Reality is for computers just as it is for cars. We each form broad opinions based on the very limited sample set we have to work with. I worship at the altar of Steve (and to a lesser extent Clarus the Dogcow), and I'll never own anything but a Mac, but...
If my opinion was unbiased and based solely on the three computers at my work station at work (two Wintels and one iMacG5), I'd be basing my conclusions on two XP machines that rarely ever crash and a Mac that crashed on a daily basis. Now, owning my own Mac at home for many many years, I know that it's a RevA iMacG5 problem and not a "Mac" problem (and hopefully the new logic board that the fine folks at CompUSA just gave me will help), but if I didn't have my reliable Pismo at home, I would probably conclude that XP is more stable than OSX.
Just like anyone who has had trouble with one Ford and a good run with one Chevy will say Chevy's are better, and someone who has had trouble with one Chevy and a good run with one Ford will say Fords are better.
Clix Pix said:
Reality is for computers just as it is for cars. We each form broad opinions based on the very limited sample set we have to work with. I worship at the altar of Steve (and to a lesser extent Clarus the Dogcow), and I'll never own anything but a Mac, but...
If my opinion was unbiased and based solely on the three computers at my work station at work (two Wintels and one iMacG5), I'd be basing my conclusions on two XP machines that rarely ever crash and a Mac that crashed on a daily basis. Now, owning my own Mac at home for many many years, I know that it's a RevA iMacG5 problem and not a "Mac" problem (and hopefully the new logic board that the fine folks at CompUSA just gave me will help), but if I didn't have my reliable Pismo at home, I would probably conclude that XP is more stable than OSX.
Just like anyone who has had trouble with one Ford and a good run with one Chevy will say Chevy's are better, and someone who has had trouble with one Chevy and a good run with one Ford will say Fords are better.
Apple Hobo said:
These are by far the most common arguments I hear.
Reponse: Windows users have considerably more software available to them. The market is flooded with the stuff and as we all know competition is a good thing. But the competition in the Windows world stick to the platforms overall ethos: pile 'em high, sell 'em cheap.
That is not to say that there aren't some fantastic pieces of software out there for Windows, but to get to them you have to wade through so much sh*t.
Macs come with enough software to make me happy, but there is some incredibly well built, functionality rich and simple to use software out there that is so easy to find.
Then my argument is response starts to overlap with the second criticism. What are the three main things that I do with my mac besides surfing the net?
- I manage and edit my photos
- I edit and burn my own movies
- I develop my own websites
All of those can be seen as graphically related if you want them to be. But we all know that movies and websites are much more than a series of pictures. If the Windows argument was re-phrased as 'Macs are only good for creativity' then I would fail to find a decent reponse as apart from games, work, watching media and creating the above I can think of few uses for a computer. Now the mac excels at the creative and media watching bit.. I've never had the chance to use a mac at work and so I can't say what they would be like for the kind of work I do and my new MBP will play games to a level that I am more than happy with, but it could be better.
So in conclusion I would challenge the argument and ask the proponent for some clarity. I think that most of them do not realise that they are close to the truth and that the truth is about creativity..If they care nothing for creativity then they will more than likely care nothing for macs as it is an appreciation of the creative process that draws us to them and makes them such a pleasure to use.
http://www.mac-sucks.com/ also contains some very enlightened and not at all biased opinions *cough*
Hilarioussunfast said:
The funniest part about this sarcasm of his is that it's actually correct - the PB100 was the first proper laptop (instead of a luggable)
Yeah... China and the aforementioned India. I wouldn't be suprised if these are rented servers. And the comment about only using X on the main site because they'd look bad is bs - the main site get's a shedload more hits
Well, duh! The UNIX CLI was never meant to be userfriendly. If you're going to tout it as horrible to work with, at least move away from Terminal
Many people have done this with Macs of various sorts
Wow, that was a waste of time
One of the argumenst that I always hated was the one-button mouse.
See, the thing is, Windows would be entirely impossible to use with a one button mouse. Doing so is unimaginable (spelling?). People always assumed the same must be true for Macs, even though Macs were always designed from the ground up for one mouse button operation.
I still like one mouse button. I only bought a MightyMouse for the horizontal/vertial scroll ball. I have it set as a one button mouse.
Besides two button mice were always available anyway.
I also can't stand that a lot of PC people think the iMac is the only Mac. When the MacBook Pro came out, somebody actually said to me "Apple came out with a laptop!" ????
I brought my 1400c to an office once several years ago and someone there said "theres no such thing as an Apple laptop" even though clearly I had it in my hands. I think he thought I modified it or something.
See, the thing is, Windows would be entirely impossible to use with a one button mouse. Doing so is unimaginable (spelling?). People always assumed the same must be true for Macs, even though Macs were always designed from the ground up for one mouse button operation.
I still like one mouse button. I only bought a MightyMouse for the horizontal/vertial scroll ball. I have it set as a one button mouse.
Besides two button mice were always available anyway.
I also can't stand that a lot of PC people think the iMac is the only Mac. When the MacBook Pro came out, somebody actually said to me "Apple came out with a laptop!" ????
I brought my 1400c to an office once several years ago and someone there said "theres no such thing as an Apple laptop" even though clearly I had it in my hands. I think he thought I modified it or something.