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I’ve been eyeing my husband’s mac since I created a video on it 9 years ago. Pages is wonderful, mail just works (better than outlook). Contacts works correctly, unlike the past 20 years with outlook. Things airdrop with my ipad and iphone. Currently I have to hook up either to get photos off. icloud just seems to work - icloud for pc and outlook is broke. The only thing holding me back is a $3000 scanner that uses twain and 24 tb of data that I’ve simply stuck in my pc case and use syncback pro for backups in lieu of raid. I think the mac mini might be able to help me get off the pc train. I really hate windows 7 and Win 10 with forced upgrades is not an option.
 
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Its the first time I will be adding a MacOS device in several years to my tech devices since I last had a macbook pro. The mac mini is appealing so I will order it this week and get a 4K monitor for it and a additional external ssd to complete my list of having all of the domestic mobile/desktop operating systems in one form or another. If only apple made a hybrid iPad that included iOS and MacOS, I wouldnt have to buy this product but wishful thinking.
 
USB-C and Thunberbolt 3 are the same thing.

Kinda, but sorta not. Thunderbolt 3 uses the same connector as USB type C. USB-C devices can be plugged into a Thunderbolt 3 port and work, but the inverse is not true. So, for example, you can plug a USB-C peripheral into a MacBook Pro and have it work, but the same isn't true for plugging a Thunderbolt 3 peripheral into a MacBook.
 
The Hades Canyon has 2 TB3 ports, two mini-DP ports, 2 1GB Ethernet ports, 2 HDMI ports, 6 USB-A ports (one designed for higher amp charging), 1 USB-C port, and an SD card slot. It also has 2 SO-DIMM slots, which support slower memory (DDR4 2400), and two M2 slots. It doesn't support 64GB of ram.
And Tom's Hardware said the new mini wiped the floor with the Hades Canyon NUC.
 
Don't forget - You got Windows as well, right? Or are you running Linux?
I did get Windows but I transferred over the license from an old PC (which still used Windows 10 Pro)
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You didn’t watch the video I posted, did you? Why? There’s loads of data supporting my assertion. The 2015 5K iMac does not throttle. Why are you obfuscating?
Here is someone with the same Mac rendering out 4K video and the temps go up to 95 degrees! Anything over 85 affects performance. Export a 4K video, time it and then do the same thing again and see the temps and compare the time. It will be slower
 
Anyone seriously considering buying the maxed out 64GB/2TB SSD/10GbE should be looking at an iMac Pro unless they have an incredibly special use case that demands a separate display and/or such a small computer.

That's still a 50% increase in price, which is silly if your workload is any combination of CPU, Memory, I/O heavy, but has minimal graphics load. (i.e. Build servers, most developer workstations, etc)
 
I find it interesting that ALL the people who are complaining about the the shortcomings of the Mac Mini don't understand they are NOT the target market.

Want a dedicated GPU? Mac Mini is not for you.
Want a 8 core i9? Mac Mini is not for you.
Want 12 TB SSD? Mac Mini is not for you.
Want an expresso machine? Mac Mini is not for you.

There's only so much you can fit into that size form factor.
 
@jclo any chance macrumors could do a news piece with regards to the mini's noise and throttling? I think that would be tremendously useful.
 
I think it's called choices - and we don't have one. We get all the CPU, and none of the GPU. I would go for Iris Plus in a heartbeat (eGPU is definitely not viable, I get that), offer it as an upgrade option. Just because YOU are happy doesn't mean that everyone is.

There is no Iris Plus upgrade option for 6-cores:

https://ark.intel.com/products/series/122593/8th-Generation-Intel-Core-i7-Processors

One could make an argument that maybe Apple should have offered a 4-core Vega CPU as a sidegrade but the level of animosity and confusion that would have caused is a major reason they didn't.

Again, I think folks would be better served redirecting this outrage towards Intel not meeting their own performance targets for years.

Also, perhaps direct some rage towards the Apple/NVIDIA webdrivers in Mojave debacle that is impeding truly exceptional bang-for-the-buck eGPU upgrades right now.
 
"Geekbench results are very strong. The i7 Mac Mini scored better on single-core performance than every other Mac today (!) at 5912, and its multi-core score of nearly 24,740 beats every Mac to date except the iMac Pro and the old 12-core 2013 Mac Pro."

Ah the 2012 Mac Pro with dual Xeon X5690 processors is still faster, it has a multi-core score of up to 27,029.
 
I find it interesting that ALL the people who are complaining about the the shortcomings of the Mac Mini don't understand they are NOT the target market.

Want a dedicated GPU? Mac Mini is not for you.
Want a 8 core i9? Mac Mini is not for you.
Want 12 TB SSD? Mac Mini is not for you.
Want an expresso machine? Mac Mini is not for you.

There's only so much you can fit into that size form factor.

You are correct. My windows 10 desktop is loaded with all of this and more. I am getting the mac mini just to have a decent MacOS device since I haven't used MacOS since 2009.
 
There's only so much you can fit into that size form factor.
I think a lot of people are still hooked on the old theory of Apple's "PRO" definition meaning film makers, photographers, etc - where it's assumed a powerful graphics card is required.. (because its visual.. so GPU.. right.. right!? Really, I have no idea what those people use or need.)

Even in the announcement, Apple highlighted a bunch of CPU/Memory/IO heavy workloads where GPU means diddily squat.
 
Just a heads-up that Safari and Firefox likewise gobble up RAM on my 2012 i7 Mac Mini 16GB RAM running Sierra. . . I've seen both top 10GB. Safari seems to be more consistent about being a RAM hog.
Well Safari must have done something amazing on my ipad 12.9 (and before) because I can have 30 tabs open without a care in the world. I take it I’ll need 32 or 64 gb memory on the mini then? (Newbie to macOS)
 
Apple has become tone deaf to the Mac community. We wanted a BUDGET computer, not including graphics card is fine IF the price was not 80% of the way towards a VR gaming rig. Because right now it is a crippled desktop machine with no dedicated graphics card costing $300 USD more than last ye....sorry, 2014 model. Which wasn't faster on some tests than the 2012 model.

We are getting less relative bang for buck than we were 4-6 years ago. These deltas get worse every release (I use 'release' as 'year' isn't really applicable to the Apple line up any more)
Wrong.

ALL the people on this Forum and others INCESSANTLY whined about for the past few YEARS is "Apple has ABANDONED the PRO USERS.

Not a DAMNED word about "We want a BUDGET computer!" Not ONE.

Give it a rest, willya?!?
 
I'm surprised that they didn't create a similar size case with a proper GPU that maybe sits under the case and connects via usb-C. I think that would look nice.

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