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I use Office 2010 and it is horrible. Firefox and Chrome use up my 16gb memory like nobody’s business. I’m on Win 7 because I don’t want forced upgrades of Win 10. Looking at switching to mac mini with 4k monitor and some sort of external case for all of my hard drives that I’m currently using syncback pro on windows for backup rather than raid.
Ahhh. We use office 2016 with 0 problems. How is it my 9yr old hp with 6gb hddr3 runs chrome fine with no memory issues?
 
I'm surprised that they didn't create a similar size case with a proper GPU that maybe sits under the case and connects via usb-C. I think that would look nice

I will eat your hat if a third party (e.g. like OWC) doesn't make at least some accessories like this. Storage is the obvious one. eGPU I'm not sure if they'd be constrained by the size.
 
In the lifetime the processor will be useful, the GPU will have been surpassed at least 3 times even if it was a top of the line RTX. The system with the minimal GPU needed to get it up with the fastest CPU they can shove in the space is the best use of the space. This way you can get a 580 and I can get a Vega 56 for instance. No compromises.

If that were at all relevant, the mini would have had a socketed GPU daughterboard of some sort. An external GPU box on a desktop is unforgivable.

Apple leaving out a GPU does not make a better computer than including a GPU. The mental gymnastics involved to always make Apple's actions seem good and generous are mind-blowing.
 
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Yeah, people say that theres no space but they fit radeon r480 in a macbook pro so im not buying that

Agreed. In fact I’d bet the mini actually has as much or more cubic inches of usable space inside of it (due to its height), compared to the 15 inch macbook pro.

If you look at outside dimensions, the macbook pro is 79 cubic inches, the mini is 83 cubic inches, and the macbook pro is taking up a chunk of those cubic inches with a screen! So indeed, if a 15 inch macbook pro can fit a 6 core i7 and a great dgpu, then certainly there's space inside the mini for that as well.
 
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That would take sales away from imacs
Wrong.

That would REALLY make the mini expensive.

Want a gaming GPU. Go external. The message is clear.

Do you really think those people like MacStadium, with THOUSANDS of Mac minis racked-up WITHOUT A SINGLE DISPLAY ATTACHED TO ANY OF THEM, give even the SLIGHTEST care about the GPU in the mini?

Not every one is a gamer.
 
I will eat your hat if a third party (e.g. like OWC) doesn't make at least some accessories like this. Storage is the obvious one. eGPU I'm not sure if they'd be constrained by the size.

Yep, OWC Mini Stack, just needs to be Space Gray and TB3 :D

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re: th eGPU, there's a modular notebook GPU spec called MXM, very small, used by Sonnet in their almost Mini sized eGPU "puck".
 
Ahhh. We use office 2016 with 0 problems. How is it my 9yr old hp with 6gb hddr3 runs chrome fine with no memory issues?
Because you are on win 10 with office 16. I’m on win 7 with office 10. I can’t afford a subscription to office and I refuse to use win 10 due to forced upgrades. And I’ve been running Window since before Win 3 when it was practically a concept and an obvious attempt to rip off the Mac.
 
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I will eat your hat if a third party (e.g. like OWC) doesn't make at least some accessories like this. Storage is the obvious one. eGPU I'm not sure if they'd be constrained by the size.
They fit a decent Radeon Pro 560 4096 MB I'm my MacBook somewhere - so I don't think it would be too difficult - it doesn't need to be a monster just a laptop version - with some cooling.
 
The good news is they reported to have spent $14 million on R & D this past year, so, after the Mac Mini Update, they still have $13,999,994 left for R & D for the rest of their products.

I'm curious to see how long it'll take to capsize a trillion dollar company.
That's 14 BEEELION dollars; not...

Oh, never mind.
 
I use Office 2010 and it is horrible. Firefox and Chrome use up my 16gb memory like nobody’s business. I’m on Win 7 because I don’t want forced upgrades of Win 10. Looking at switching to mac mini with 4k monitor and some sort of external case for all of my hard drives that I’m currently using syncback pro on windows for backup rather than raid.
How can I have edge, firefox and chrome and still have 5.48gb out.of 6bg still usable when you have 16gb are run out of space? Just trying to understand
 
They keep selling the old non-retina MacBook Air for $999, but they killed the dual-core Mac mini at $499 and also at $699. Okay, no one should have bought those sluggish bastards with their spinning disks! But that’s what Fusion Drive is for, a technology to provide fast enough storage in a budget desktop computer. Why can’t we have a 2014 Mini with a 1TB Fusion Drive at a reasonable price?
 
The mental gymnastics involved to always make Apple's actions seem good and generous are mind-blowing

No more so than the mental gymnastics involved to assume you know every use-case for a computer.

In fact I’d bet the mini actually has as much or more cubic inches of usable space inside of it (due to its height), compared to. macbook pro

The Mac Mini also has a 65W CPU, compared to the 45W one in the MacBook Pro.

Just because they could shoehorn a discrete GPU into the Mini doesn't mean they should.
 
They fit a decent Radeon Pro 560 4096 MB I'm my MacBook somewhere - so I don't think it would be too difficult - it doesn't need to be a monster just a laptop version - with some cooling.
In fact - isn't the Mac Mini just the guts of a MacBook in a box without keyboard, trackpad, screen, batteries etc.
 
The iMac Pro, released last December and the MBP released in 3 months ago are "hopelessly outdated"?

The iMac Pro was mentioned as one of the two it didn't beat, and a laptop has less thermal headroom. There is one other machine that should beat the Mac mini - the iMac - and it is outdated both wrt. CPU, graphics and design. Most thought it would be updated at the event this autumn, but it wasn't.

If I could dream, it would improve the screen, use the latest CPUs, switch to Nvidia and add FaceID. Maybe even an inch or two larger than 27".

And at the time of the event, everything except the MBP was outdated. The MacBook Air was just embarrassing (premium price for a product that was outdated 3 years ago), the iMac was outdated, the Mac mini was ancient, the MacBook is still outdated and the Mac Pro is rather out of date.
 
If that were at all relevant, the mini would have had a socketed GPU daughterboard of some sort. An external GPU box on a desktop is unforgivable.

Apple leaving out a GPU does not make a better computer than including a GPU. The mental gymnastics involved to always make Apple's actions seem good and generous are mind-blowing.
You need to adjust your thinking to:

1. 2018, not 1988. eGPU is REALLY a thing now.

2. The Mac mini's form-factor. IT ISN'T A TOWER!

3. What a Thermal Design Budget is. Look into it.
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In fact - isn't the Mac Mini just the guts of a MacBook in a box without keyboard, trackpad, screen, batteries etc.
Not this one. It is an entirely new design on the inside.
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They keep selling the old non-retina MacBook Air for $999, but they killed the dual-core Mac mini at $499 and also at $699. Okay, no one should have bought those sluggish bastards with their spinning disks! But that’s what Fusion Drive is for, a technology to provide fast enough storage in a budget desktop computer. Why can’t we have a 2014 Mini with a 1TB Fusion Drive at a reasonable price?
If you wait about a month, I predict that there will be a buttload of them on eBay and CL for CHEEEEP!
 
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No more so than the mental gymnastics involved to assume you know every use-case for a computer.



The Mac Mini also has a 65W CPU, compared to the 45W one in the MacBook Pro.

Just because they could shoehorn a discrete GPU into the Mini doesn't mean they should.

I am just arguing they ‘should’ offer the choice, since they ‘could’ do it. Its up to any of us whether we’d pay for that config. I would though.
 
In fact - isn't the Mac Mini just the guts of a MacBook in a box without keyboard, trackpad, screen, batteries etc.

Not unless the MacBook has a 65W CPU.

The iMac Pro was mentioned as one of the two it didn't beat,
In multi-core, yes.

There is one other machine that should beat the Mac mini - the iMac - and it is outdated both wrt. CPU, graphics and design

Well, the graphics is irrelevant. The CPU is 1 generation behind.
 
I am just arguing they ‘should’ offer the choice, since they ‘could’ do it. Its up to any of us whether we’d pay for that config. I would though.

The problem is, would that config be additional or in place of e.g. the i7. You might assume 'additional' but it's not like Apple has a history of tons and tons of options for these things. It's only the Mac Pro and iMac Pro lately where they've had more than 2 or 3 choices.
 
How can I have edge, firefox and chrome and still have 5.48gb out.of 6bg still usable when you have 16gb are run out of space? Just trying to understand
Because you are on win 10 with office 16. I’m on win 7 with office 10. I can’t afford a subscription to office and I refuse to use win 10 due to forced upgrades.
 
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