Well... Apple sold 2,000 units of the Shuffle. They couldn't just make 50,000 and HOPE that people would go for them. Having 2,000 ready to go was a pretty happy medium in my opinion.noel4r said:
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JGowan said:
Er, you're off by a factor of ten or so. I heard that there were 20,000 available at the SF Apple Store on release day, sold out within hours, and they're scheduled to manufacture 500,000 a month. I'm sure hundreds of thousands are preordered at this point.
Why in the world would you do that?
Just go into system prefs and set the perferred language to French... All your Apple apps will speak French just by turning that pref on. I could never understand people ordering a French version in America... Je parle de nous, évidemment.
The only benefit you will have will the French print on the box, the small highly illustrated manual (it is real tiny) and a delay.
On the other hand someone has to ask for a French box, but you realize you get the system that is sold in France, thus the delay.
c'est beaucoup plus rapide de prendre ce qui vient. Mac OS X est un système multilingue.
Laurent said:
Just go into system prefs and set the perferred language to French... All your Apple apps will speak French just by turning that pref on. I could never understand people ordering a French version in America... Je parle de nous, évidemment.
The only benefit you will have will the French print on the box, the small highly illustrated manual (it is real tiny) and a delay.
On the other hand someone has to ask for a French box, but you realize you get the system that is sold in France, thus the delay.
c'est beaucoup plus rapide de prendre ce qui vient. Mac OS X est un système multilingue.
Alexander said:
Actually, that report was later corrected to the 2000 figure quoted here. That said, I hope Apple gets up to production capacity ASAP to meet demand very quickly.
I'm looking forward to the Mac Mini details that will emerge when real people actually GET them. Are they cheaply made? Poorly packaged? Difficult to set up? OK, probably not.... 
And what will first-time Mac owners' impressions be? (I hope they went for 512 MB...)
And what will first-time Mac owners' impressions be? (I hope they went for 512 MB...)That's the backorder that built up, but the iPod Shuffle DOES already exist--people have them. What quantities exist? THAT is the big questionnoel4r said:
Ditto for iLife 05. Come on, don't keep me waitingsord said:
Anyone notice that they are being shipped from China?
Shenzhen China to be exact. Also, unlike with other services, the tracking on Fedex doesn't give a projected delivery date.
Hopefully we all have ours by Friday - I got an 1.42 mini with a SuperDrive - my first Real Mac (although I have a blueberry iMac - but it runs OSX pretty poorly)
Shenzhen China to be exact. Also, unlike with other services, the tracking on Fedex doesn't give a projected delivery date.
Hopefully we all have ours by Friday - I got an 1.42 mini with a SuperDrive - my first Real Mac (although I have a blueberry iMac - but it runs OSX pretty poorly)
mlrproducts said:
I can understand you are frustrated, but but your delay more or less has to do with the fact that when you change BTOs, you need to cancel the order. When Apple builds machines they don't do them in the order they are received, they do them in identical batches. You gave up your slot on the BTO SD+BT build, and other people had already taken the timeslots for the BTO SD+BT+512 builds. These machines are built like this for a reason; its alot easier to do 1000 identical machines in a row, when items such as drives or ram are hand inserted, because there is less chance that you get the wrong configuration. So suck it up, face the fact that it was your screwup, and you should have ordered memory from Crucial or Kingston instead of having them change your order after the BTO order was in the system. You would have saved time and probably money as well. You know, I just don't get it... Apple is shipping early, they dont have a 3 month wait, and you are upset at them because you changed your mind. Anyone would remember from the iMac G4 (I bought one a few hours after the keynote) how it was over a month before the first unit shipped, and they were backordered forever. And of course the Mini is going to be much more popular; I'd say be happy you are still within the first 100,000 units, or you'd really be waiting.
If anyone is interested I have posted a video on how to disassemble a Mac mini in order to add ram etc. See this thread:
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/105812/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/105812/
jkelling said:Anyone notice that they are being shipped from China?
Shenzhen China to be exact. Also, unlike with other services, the tracking on Fedex doesn't give a projected delivery date.
Hopefully we all have ours by Friday - I got an 1.42 mini with a SuperDrive - my first Real Mac (although I have a blueberry iMac - but it runs OSX pretty poorly)
Thats how it was when the first G4 iMacs shipped; they came from Tiawan (*sp). Of course, mine was headed towards customs in Alaska, I beleive it was identified as the second main shipment from Apple. and then all of a sudden it got a 1-day delay by turning around mid-ocean and going back to Japan. After calling Fedex and asking what was going on, they said it was a medical emergency (I doubt there are too many people on the plane, so there arent too many choices there). You can imagine how frustrating that was after waiting a month for it to ship and seeing it go the wrong direction around the world
I ordered on the 12th at about 8pm CST. My order is to go out "on or before 2/11"
I went with 1.25/40/combo/512. I'm a proud switcher (at least tester) and a first time poster. How do you think the Mini compare to my current notebook: Mobile Intel Pentium 4, 2400 MHz 400MHz external bus 512MB? Any feedback would be welcome.
I went with 1.25/40/combo/512. I'm a proud switcher (at least tester) and a first time poster. How do you think the Mini compare to my current notebook: Mobile Intel Pentium 4, 2400 MHz 400MHz external bus 512MB? Any feedback would be welcome.
kkapoor said:
Neat video. I see the apple logo on there, but it doesn't look like its apple produced. Did you make the video? If so, where'd you get the Mac Mini to take apart? I'm sure they wouldnt let you do that at MacWorld....
MmmPancakes said:I ordered on the 12th at about 8pm CST. My order is to go out "on or before 2/11"
I went with 1.25/40/combo/512. I'm a proud switcher (at least tester) and a first time poster. How do you think the Mini compare to my current notebook: Mobile Intel Pentium 4, 2400 MHz 400MHz external bus 512MB? Any feedback would be welcome.
Remember, On or Before is On or Before
So don't feel too bad yet; if its 2/7 you can begin to be upset for waiting a bit. But in reality, Apple, like Dell and everyone else, tries to make a worse case scenario and tries to ship before that date.I would have to think that will be a bit slower. I've got a Pentium M, which smokes the desktop Pentium 4. If you have the Pentium M in your notebook, then it will definately be faster. If its really a Pentium 4, they will be closer in speed; the G4 may be faster in multimedia. Overall the general responsiveness of the Mac will probably seem the same or faster just because all the elements of the UI are accelerated.
My shuffle arrives today!
There was an original rumor that they sold 20,000, but then it got reduced to 2000. Either way, these things appear to be flying off the eShelves. According to FedEx my 512 shuffle arrives today. I can't wait. Even though my mini is small, I still don't like running with it. I should be able to just hold the shuffle in my hands.
iLife still hasn't shipped for me, but is support to ship by Friday. Really hope it ships sooner, but I won't die if it doesn't.
Alexander said:
There was an original rumor that they sold 20,000, but then it got reduced to 2000. Either way, these things appear to be flying off the eShelves. According to FedEx my 512 shuffle arrives today. I can't wait. Even though my mini is small, I still don't like running with it. I should be able to just hold the shuffle in my hands.
iLife still hasn't shipped for me, but is support to ship by Friday. Really hope it ships sooner, but I won't die if it doesn't.
dguisinger said:
Hi,
I found the video on an obscure FTP (not the FTP the video is hosted on). I'm not sure if it is official but at least now we know how easy it is to open the Mac mini. Oh, and I didn't make the video.
I am definitely going to get me one of those things and put in a 7200 rpm drive and a gig of ram to juice it up a bit. I'll just order the least amount of ram possible from Apple.
Cancel and Reorder
I had a similar problem with my order. I decided to upgrade to the larger hard drive, but for some reason they were unable to modify the order and cancelled it to start over from scratch. Unfortunately, I had to wait for the cancellation to clear through my bank, so I couldn't order until the next morning (the 12th). In the meantime, I also decided to upgrade to the faster processor. Unlike you, though, I got a shipment notice today. Don't know why you didn't, since you must have ordered at close to the same time. I guess I did reorder first thing that morning, about 6:30 AM Pacific time.
As for the doubters, I've checked the FedEx tracking, and something has shipped, anyway.
mlrproducts said:
I had a similar problem with my order. I decided to upgrade to the larger hard drive, but for some reason they were unable to modify the order and cancelled it to start over from scratch. Unfortunately, I had to wait for the cancellation to clear through my bank, so I couldn't order until the next morning (the 12th). In the meantime, I also decided to upgrade to the faster processor. Unlike you, though, I got a shipment notice today. Don't know why you didn't, since you must have ordered at close to the same time. I guess I did reorder first thing that morning, about 6:30 AM Pacific time.
As for the doubters, I've checked the FedEx tracking, and something has shipped, anyway.
dguisinger said:Remember, On or Before is On or Before
I would have to think that will be a bit slower. I've got a Pentium M, which smokes the desktop Pentium 4. If you have the Pentium M in your notebook, then it will definately be faster. If its really a Pentium 4, they will be closer in speed; the G4 may be faster in multimedia. Overall the general responsiveness of the Mac will probably seem the same or faster just because all the elements of the UI are accelerated.
Thats true about the shipping. I've just read some pretty good things and I'm excited like everyone else. In retrospect, I'm really glad I went for the 512, although I skimped on the other features. I should have gone 80 gigs and maybe even with the SUperdrive, but I'm scared to be bumped back down in the shipping queue. Now that we're certain we can open the case relatively safely per the video, how easy do you think future upgrades (SD, New HDD, Ram,) etc?
Based on the processor "Notes" link in this comparison, the 1.25 G4 is approximately equivalent to a 1.6 Ghz desktop Pentium 4, making the Mini slower than a 2.4 Ghz Pentium 4. But mobile Pentiums are not the same as desktop Pentiums--so the Mini will fare better than just 1.6 Ghz when compared to your laptop. And there are many other factors, like the video board.MmmPancakes said:
Anyway, welcome! And stop back with questions when they come up. Best advice: poke through all the Preferences and View Options to find lots of power tucked away in OS X.
SuperDrive? Maybe someday. RAM? Easy. HD? I suggest a Firewire external drive: it can be 3.5" instead of the internal 2.5". That means more space cheaper, and faster rpms. Plus flexible portability and backups--AND you get to keep the original 40 too.MmmPancakes said:
Or just add an iPod for extra storage
RAM will be a piece of cake. Hard drive will be harder, as from what I've heard it's harder to get at, plus it's a 2.5" drive, not a standard 3.5" desktop drive. I wouldn't hold my breath on upgrading the optical drive at all.MmmPancakes said:
tubedogg said:
Actually, notebook components are easier to get these days; he could probably swap the hard drive out if he felt like it, but there may be some heat grease to put back on for proper cooling.
Also, the notebook CD drives that apple uses aren't Apple exclusive, he should be able to find slot-loading drives on the market that fit....in theory.
iLife shipping today?
Just checked my card. Looks like Apple charged me yesterday for iLife, so I'm guessing that's set to ship as well. My wife already has a bunch of photo's set up for the new books.
I suspect that the .Mac update scheduled for Saturday is related to iLife '05? Here's hoping the previous rumor of 1 GB .mac space updates (vs. 250 MB now) are also true and will show up on Sunday morning.
Just checked my card. Looks like Apple charged me yesterday for iLife, so I'm guessing that's set to ship as well. My wife already has a bunch of photo's set up for the new books.
I suspect that the .Mac update scheduled for Saturday is related to iLife '05? Here's hoping the previous rumor of 1 GB .mac space updates (vs. 250 MB now) are also true and will show up on Sunday morning.
nagromme said:SuperDrive? Maybe someday. RAM? Easy. HD? I suggest a Firewire external drive: it can be 3.5" instead of the internal 2.5". That means more space cheaper, and faster rpms. Plus flexible portability and backups--AND you get to keep the original 40 too.
Or just add an iPod for extra storage
Good tips. I wouldn't try to replace the HD, but I've been looking at some external drives later, and it's good to know I can up the RAM if Tiger calls for it.
I gotta say I haven't even received my Mac yet, but I'm already sold on it as the result of the sense of community in the Mac population, particularly on this board.
LinuxGigolo said:
3Memos said:
I'm confused. The 512mb/80gb/AE/BT/1.25GHz deal costs US $753. The 1.42GHz version costs US $599, includes an 80GB hard drive, but is without the extra RAM, AirPort Express or Bluetooth. When these are added, the price goes to US $803. That's $50 more expensive. How could he have saved money by going with the 1.42GHz version, unless you are suggesting LinuxGigolo leaves out the RAM upgrade and the AirPort and Bluetooth?