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FFTT said:
The answer is YES, but it's worth the effort for major purchases.

Apple educational discounts are available for all schools, teachers and college students.

In the process of completing your order, qualified individuals are usually
required to show or fax a student/teacher photo I.D.

Your sister-in-law can order the system in her name, then have it shipped
to your address.
This will not prevent you from registering the new system in your name.

If you'd rather not involve someone else, there's nothing wrong
with taking a course or two at your local community college.

I ordered my Powerbook a little over a year ago, using the educational discount through the Apple online store, and was never asked to send any ID, just that I was faculty. When going into the store, however, and using the edu or government discount, you must show ID.
 
nightowl said:
I ordered my Powerbook a little over a year ago, using the educational discount through the Apple online store, and was never asked to send any ID, just that I was faculty. When going into the store, however, and using the edu or government discount, you must show ID.
I think their main concern with the discount would be people buying with it and then selling it on eBay or something for a profit. (I hear that they track that by the serial numbers when the machine get's registered.)
 
Kramer said:
How does the ed. discount work? My sister-in-law is going to college, could I use her name? Or could I use my name? However I graduated from college in 98.
Does Apple actually check to see if you’re enrolled?

as far as I know, apple does not check. I currently go to NJIT, and ordered a mini over the phone. All they asked was what aschool I went to, I told them, and that was that. Easy enough. So i guess if you don't actually still go to school, its worth a try.
 
I think it's worth it

Just some thoughts after reading this very long thread:

I have a B&W G3 that I bought in 1998 for about $2000. Upgraded the chip to a G4 450 ($250), upgraded the hard drive x 2 ($150) and the cd drive ($75), ram ($100) and it's lasted me almost 7 years. That is $2575 about or $350 per year. It was fast when I got it, but really slow now and crashes all the time. I don't know why. I've never opened a computer before to upgrade it and I don't think I'll do it again. I like using computers but not tinkering with them. So my thought is I can get a mini every two years for that price, have a new and stable computer all the time. While it won't be the fastest compared to a new powermac now, in seven years a new mini will be faster than a continously upgraded powermac (I think) and more stable. And I don't have the money to buy a new powermac every 3-4 years. Does that make sense? I think the mini is for me.

But having said that, my B&W G3 (now G4) has 16mb vram. It seems things should have progressed a little more over 7 years. But I'm going to go from a 450 mhz processor to 1.42 with bluetooth, wifi, iLife, usb2, firewire, tiger (eventually), quicken 2005 etc so I can't wait. I am confused though how I will plug my guitar into my mac to use garageband without an 1/8 inch audio in jack. Is there such a thing as a 1/4 inch to USB converter? Any thoughts? Oh, I'm also excited about hooking it up to my (crt) TV (I'm not sure how yet) and showing my iPhoto slide shows to friends on my TV.
 
Mac Mini Forum/Website

Can anyone recommend an alternate "quality" Mac Mini forum or website?

Now that I have ordered my Mac Mini, I would prefer to discuss the Mac Mini, not how it compares to other product offerings.

I know this request is pre-mature being the product has not been released yet. Not having owned a Mac, I have only been looking at MacRumors and Macdailynews for the past year. I am unfamiliar with Mac sites.

I want to know about tech issues, iLife 05 tips and tricks, accessories etc.

Something like ipodlounge.com, but for the Mac Mini.

Of course, I'll still visit MacRumors daily.
 
I want one of these so badly
I haven't owned an apple since the Apple II, so this might finally be the one that will re-convert me
So much power in such a small package
 
SoccerEBA3 said:
I want one of these so badly
I haven't owned an apple since the Apple II, so this might finally be the one that will re-convert me
So much power in such a small package

Yes, it is quite lustworthy. And also, are you looking to get banned?
 
iKWICK7 said:
as far as I know, apple does not check. I currently go to NJIT, and ordered a mini over the phone. All they asked was what aschool I went to, I told them, and that was that. Easy enough. So i guess if you don't actually still go to school, its worth a try.

Apple does check… a certain (low) number of orders, at random or if their suspicions have been raised somehow. Either way, why? It's a discount for people who are not you. Don't be "that guy". Maybe you won't get caught, but that doesn't make you not an ass.

Or if they always left the register open at the physical stores, would you just snag a couple of twenties?

~J
 
macidiot said:
Umm, no. It was supposed to be a merger of equals when it happened. But what actually happened is that most of Chrysler senior management(including the president and board chairman) was replaced by Mercedes people. It is effectively now run by Mercedes. This has been well documented.

As the joke goes:

Q: How do you pronounce "Daimler-Chrysler?
A: It's pronounced "Daimler". The "Chrysler" is silent
 
Marx55 said:
We were set to switch and place a large corporate order of Macs mini to replace our aging PC-Windows systems, but such move has been postponed since we cannot boot the Macs mini from fast (7200 rpm) external drives (400 GB) and then have at least one real FireWire port free (not hub-like shared). The internal Mac mini disk is too slow (4200 rpm) and small for us. And no, we cannot afford the expensive and noisy PowerMacs G5.

Hey man, I know how you feel. I'm the CIO for a Fortune 100 company, and we were all set to replace over 10,000 desktop Intel/Windows systems until we found out that the Mac mini had only one FireWire port. What a bummer. You see, in our current network we use a robust, multiply redundant system of fileservers, network attached storage and storage area networks. We can centrally control access privileges across our whole organization, have a central place for file distribution rather than have stuff scattered over thousands of desktop systems, do centralized backup and file recovery, centralized storage upgrades, and keep all our IT management infrastructure in one place.

This was all going great until a few weeks ago when one of our junior office assistants sent me an e-mail saying that he would prefer it if his desktop machine had a few hundred gigabytes of local storage instead of using the high-speed, multiply redundant, centrally administered, centrally backed-up, securely managed corporate file server. "Rebooting would be faster", he explained in his e-mail. "...and I can store...umm...stuff".

Hmm...faster rebooting. Even though the Mac OS X systems we were considering generally only needed to be rebooted after applying system updates, and could be placed into sleep mode reliably day-in, day-out, he had a point. Why not reboot all the time? I had to admit it, that Apple startup chime was pretty catchy. Who was I to deny him this right? And if he was going to reboot constantly, then dammit, time is money in my organization, and I wasn't going to have him wasting valuable seconds by waiting for a 4200rpm drive to squeeze Mac OS X across a constipated parallel ATA/100 link into RAM. Then I considered his second point. Eureka! Everyone wants to store stacks of 'umm...stuff' locally. I had to admit to myself...having all our valuable corporate information stored so securely, so centrally...it was getting boring. I thought about the raw, seat-of-the-pants thrill I could obtain by shifting the entire organization's data storage architecture onto overly-large, low MBTF consumer-grade, easily portable, hard-to-backup, impossible to reliably share local storage devices, located right there on top of user's desks. Brilliant!!

I fired off a quick response to the young lad congratulating him on his fine idea and granting him a masssive pay rise (in the form of $175,852 worth of unredeemed Pepsi iTunes Music Store bottle caps). Starting on the 22nd of January, we would not only be transitioning from Intel/Windows to Mac OS X, but we would uproot our entire storage architecture! I went straight to Apple's web page to place an order for 10,000 Mac minis, and of course some iPod Socks for myself. But then my delight turned to horror. Only one FireWire 400 port? But how would each individual user hook up a second, multi-terabyte RAID box to their existing external 400GB boot drive and then shuttle files meaninglessly back and forth all day? What if they wanted to bring in their FireWire DV video cameras from home and edit movies instead of working? AND WHAT IF THEY WANTED TO REBOOT WHILE THE WHOLE THING WAS HAPPENING?!?!?!

The realization slapped me across the face like a blow from a searing hot 11-pound PowerBook G5. The Mac mini would be USELESS! I called my assistant to bring a box of bran flakes, a jug of milk, and a Zip-loc baggie. Within a few hours I had filled the baggie with exactly what I thought of Steve Jobs and his storage-crippled Mac mini, and had my assistant express freight it to Cupertino. You almost had my order Jobs...but the single FireWire 400 killed the deal. And no. We can't afford PowerMacs. Too expensive. Too noisy.

I feel your pain, little dude.
 
Check out Apple's Discussion forums

BanditBill said:
Can anyone recommend an alternate "quality" Mac Mini forum or website?

Now that I have ordered my Mac Mini, I would prefer to discuss the Mac Mini, not how it compares to other product offerings.

I know this request is pre-mature being the product has not been released yet. Not having owned a Mac, I have only been looking at MacRumors and Macdailynews for the past year. I am unfamiliar with Mac sites.

I want to know about tech issues, iLife 05 tips and tricks, accessories etc.

Something like ipodlounge.com, but for the Mac Mini.

Of course, I'll still visit MacRumors daily.

I suggest the Apple discussion forums. They're here:

http://discussions.info.apple.com/
 
do not understand

oingoboingo said:
Hey man, I know how you feel. I'm the CIO for a Fortune 100 company, and we were all set to replace over 10,000 desktop Intel/Windows systems until we found out that the Mac mini had only one FireWire port. What a bummer. You see, in our current network we use a robust, multiply redundant system of fileservers, network attached storage and storage area networks. We can centrally control access privileges across our whole organization, have a central place for file distribution rather than have stuff scattered over thousands of desktop systems, do centralized backup and file recovery, centralized storage upgrades, and keep all our IT management infrastructure in one place.

This was all going great until a few weeks ago when one of our junior office assistants sent me an e-mail saying that he would prefer it if his desktop machine had a few hundred gigabytes of local storage instead of using the high-speed, multiply redundant, centrally administered, centrally backed-up, securely managed corporate file server. "Rebooting would be faster", he explained in his e-mail. "...and I can store...umm...stuff".

Hmm...faster rebooting. Even though the Mac OS X systems we were considering generally only needed to be rebooted after applying system updates, and could be placed into sleep mode reliably day-in, day-out, he had a point. Why not reboot all the time? I had to admit it, that Apple startup chime was pretty catchy. Who was I to deny him this right? And if he was going to reboot constantly, then dammit, time is money in my organization, and I wasn't going to have him wasting valuable seconds by waiting for a 4200rpm drive to squeeze Mac OS X across a constipated parallel ATA/100 link into RAM. Then I considered his second point. Eureka! Everyone wants to store stacks of 'umm...stuff' locally. I had to admit to myself...having all our valuable corporate information stored so securely, so centrally...it was getting boring. I thought about the raw, seat-of-the-pants thrill I could obtain by shifting the entire organization's data storage architecture onto overly-large, low MBTF consumer-grade, easily portable, hard-to-backup, impossible to reliably share local storage devices, located right there on top of user's desks. Brilliant!!

I fired off a quick response to the young lad congratulating him on his fine idea and granting him a masssive pay rise (in the form of $175,852 worth of unredeemed Pepsi iTunes Music Store bottle caps). Starting on the 22nd of January, we would not only be transitioning from Intel/Windows to Mac OS X, but we would uproot our entire storage architecture! I went straight to Apple's web page to place an order for 10,000 Mac minis, and of course some iPod Socks for myself. But then my delight turned to horror. Only one FireWire 400 port? But how would each individual user hook up a second, multi-terabyte RAID box to their existing external 400GB boot drive and then shuttle files meaninglessly back and forth all day? What if they wanted to bring in their FireWire DV video cameras from home and edit movies instead of working? AND WHAT IF THEY WANTED TO REBOOT WHILE THE WHOLE THING WAS HAPPENING?!?!?!
PowerMacs. Too expensive. Too noisy.

I feel your pain, little dude.

Chain the Firewire drives, there is no reduction in speed. You do not need multiple firewire ports, they can be chained. If you need a raid box then probably a Mac Mini is not what you want anyway. But, alas your joking right.

Brian
 
BillD222 said:
If you're doing all that and need a monitor($300+), kb/m ($50), etc. you may wanna go 4 the iMac. If you are or know a student or teacher and can get the ed. discount - all the better. The $300/400 difference (i u can swing it) goes a long way in specs (G5, GPU, RAM cost (upgradability).

Just a thought.

Thank's for the advice..
But i allready have a 17" LCD DVI and only need a set of USB keyboard and mouse (will use the DVI for the mac and VGA for my pc..as long as i need it :p )

And i dont live in the US either ;) so can get the edu dsicount :mad: :( :(

But if I had the money i would proberly get a G5 :D would be nice but.......
 
Chip NoVaMac said:
If he is not a student, he can become one by taking any course at the community college level. Sure if might cost upwards of $200, but he will also learn something in the process. :)

thank you but I am not in the US
 
aswitcher said:
Ok, it looks like your sorted. Lets us know what you end up going with. Like someone else said, you may want to take another look at the 17" iMac with the superdrive if your after that configuration.

Want the G5 ofcourse but $$$ Like the G5 and ram options++ but I have a 17"LCD allready so :confused: i don't know
Will keep you informed with what I do ;)
 
Eastend said:
Not sure, but I think Apple gives educational discounts anywhere, at least they do here in Japan.

Brian

Think that is becasue they have Apple retail stores in Japan? or :confused:
 
Platform said:
Think that is becasue they have Apple retail stores in Japan? or :confused:

at least edu stores are available in those online stores i checked ... i've ordered mine with an edu discount....(sure not much at 600€ ...but 50€ are 50€)...
 
takao said:
at least edu stores are available in those online stores i checked ... i've ordered mine with an edu discount....(sure not much at 600€ ...but 50€ are 50€)...

I'll back you up on that, every store I checked also has the education discounts. It's not much always, but sometimes it makes a big difference.

Brian
 
Eastend said:
I'll back you up on that, every store I checked also has the education discounts. It's not much always, but sometimes it makes a big difference.

Brian

So you are saying that all of the stores on apple.com have avaibility of edu discoint :confused:
 
oingoboingo said:
Hey man, I know how you feel. I'm the CIO for a Fortune 100 company, and we were all set to replace over 10,000 desktop Intel/Windows systems until we found out that the Mac mini had only one FireWire port. What a bummer. You see, in our current network we use a robust, multiply redundant system of fileservers, network attached storage and storage area networks. We can centrally control access privileges across our whole organization, have a central place for file distribution rather than have stuff scattered over thousands of desktop systems, do centralized backup and file recovery, centralized storage upgrades, and keep all our IT management infrastructure in one place.

This was all going great until a few weeks ago when one of our junior office assistants sent me an e-mail saying that he would prefer it if his desktop machine had a few hundred gigabytes of local storage instead of using the high-speed, multiply redundant, centrally administered, centrally backed-up, securely managed corporate file server. "Rebooting would be faster", he explained in his e-mail. "...and I can store...umm...stuff".

Hmm...faster rebooting. Even though the Mac OS X systems we were considering generally only needed to be rebooted after applying system updates, and could be placed into sleep mode reliably day-in, day-out, he had a point. Why not reboot all the time? I had to admit it, that Apple startup chime was pretty catchy. Who was I to deny him this right? And if he was going to reboot constantly, then dammit, time is money in my organization, and I wasn't going to have him wasting valuable seconds by waiting for a 4200rpm drive to squeeze Mac OS X across a constipated parallel ATA/100 link into RAM. Then I considered his second point. Eureka! Everyone wants to store stacks of 'umm...stuff' locally. I had to admit to myself...having all our valuable corporate information stored so securely, so centrally...it was getting boring. I thought about the raw, seat-of-the-pants thrill I could obtain by shifting the entire organization's data storage architecture onto overly-large, low MBTF consumer-grade, easily portable, hard-to-backup, impossible to reliably share local storage devices, located right there on top of user's desks. Brilliant!!

I fired off a quick response to the young lad congratulating him on his fine idea and granting him a masssive pay rise (in the form of $175,852 worth of unredeemed Pepsi iTunes Music Store bottle caps). Starting on the 22nd of January, we would not only be transitioning from Intel/Windows to Mac OS X, but we would uproot our entire storage architecture! I went straight to Apple's web page to place an order for 10,000 Mac minis, and of course some iPod Socks for myself. But then my delight turned to horror. Only one FireWire 400 port? But how would each individual user hook up a second, multi-terabyte RAID box to their existing external 400GB boot drive and then shuttle files meaninglessly back and forth all day? What if they wanted to bring in their FireWire DV video cameras from home and edit movies instead of working? AND WHAT IF THEY WANTED TO REBOOT WHILE THE WHOLE THING WAS HAPPENING?!?!?!

The realization slapped me across the face like a blow from a searing hot 11-pound PowerBook G5. The Mac mini would be USELESS! I called my assistant to bring a box of bran flakes, a jug of milk, and a Zip-loc baggie. Within a few hours I had filled the baggie with exactly what I thought of Steve Jobs and his storage-crippled Mac mini, and had my assistant express freight it to Cupertino. You almost had my order Jobs...but the single FireWire 400 killed the deal. And no. We can't afford PowerMacs. Too expensive. Too noisy.

I feel your pain, little dude.

Wanted: Valuable seconds lost from booting from a 4,200 rpm drive :D

You will gain much more time by improving typing skills in your organization!

Servers are meant to act as central repositories for fortune 100 companies; not external HDs

You can do an emergency boot from a system disk in case you need to or you can boot from the server, in addition to the fact that, as many here have already told you, most external HDs have a second firewire port for daisychaining as well as a USB 2 connector.
 
Platform said:
So you are saying that all of the stores on apple.com have avaibility of edu discoint :confused:

Can you make it easy for us and tell us which country you're from? Apple does offer educational discounts in many countries. I have purchased both hardware and software using my student card to gain a discount here in Australia.
 
oingoboingo said:
Hey man, I know how you feel. I'm the CIO for a Fortune 100 company, and we were all set to replace over 10,000 desktop Intel/Windows systems until we found out that the Mac mini had only one FireWire port. What a bummer. You see, in our current network we use a robust, multiply redundant system of fileservers, network attached storage and storage area networks. We can centrally control access privileges across our whole organization, have a central place for file distribution rather than have stuff scattered over thousands of desktop systems, do centralized backup and file recovery, centralized storage upgrades, and keep all our IT management infrastructure in one place.

This was all going great until a few weeks ago when one of our junior office assistants sent me an e-mail saying that he would prefer it if his desktop machine had a few hundred gigabytes of local storage instead of using the high-speed, multiply redundant, centrally administered, centrally backed-up, securely managed corporate file server. "Rebooting would be faster", he explained in his e-mail. "...and I can store...umm...stuff".

Hmm...faster rebooting. Even though the Mac OS X systems we were considering generally only needed to be rebooted after applying system updates, and could be placed into sleep mode reliably day-in, day-out, he had a point. Why not reboot all the time? I had to admit it, that Apple startup chime was pretty catchy. Who was I to deny him this right? And if he was going to reboot constantly, then dammit, time is money in my organization, and I wasn't going to have him wasting valuable seconds by waiting for a 4200rpm drive to squeeze Mac OS X across a constipated parallel ATA/100 link into RAM. Then I considered his second point. Eureka! Everyone wants to store stacks of 'umm...stuff' locally. I had to admit to myself...having all our valuable corporate information stored so securely, so centrally...it was getting boring. I thought about the raw, seat-of-the-pants thrill I could obtain by shifting the entire organization's data storage architecture onto overly-large, low MBTF consumer-grade, easily portable, hard-to-backup, impossible to reliably share local storage devices, located right there on top of user's desks. Brilliant!!

I fired off a quick response to the young lad congratulating him on his fine idea and granting him a masssive pay rise (in the form of $175,852 worth of unredeemed Pepsi iTunes Music Store bottle caps). Starting on the 22nd of January, we would not only be transitioning from Intel/Windows to Mac OS X, but we would uproot our entire storage architecture! I went straight to Apple's web page to place an order for 10,000 Mac minis, and of course some iPod Socks for myself. But then my delight turned to horror. Only one FireWire 400 port? But how would each individual user hook up a second, multi-terabyte RAID box to their existing external 400GB boot drive and then shuttle files meaninglessly back and forth all day? What if they wanted to bring in their FireWire DV video cameras from home and edit movies instead of working? AND WHAT IF THEY WANTED TO REBOOT WHILE THE WHOLE THING WAS HAPPENING?!?!?!

The realization slapped me across the face like a blow from a searing hot 11-pound PowerBook G5. The Mac mini would be USELESS! I called my assistant to bring a box of bran flakes, a jug of milk, and a Zip-loc baggie. Within a few hours I had filled the baggie with exactly what I thought of Steve Jobs and his storage-crippled Mac mini, and had my assistant express freight it to Cupertino. You almost had my order Jobs...but the single FireWire 400 killed the deal. And no. We can't afford PowerMacs. Too expensive. Too noisy.

I feel your pain, little dude.

Priceless... :D
 
oingoboingo said:
Can you make it easy for us and tell us which country you're from? Apple does offer educational discounts in many countries. I have purchased both hardware and software using my student card to gain a discount here in Australia.

OK but i dont live anywhere that apple have listed their edu discount's checked just now othewise thank you :D
 
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