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thanks for the knowledge.
You're welcome.

dual core w/ hd 5000 vs quad core w/ 4600. what would be more ideal for medium photo/video editing?

would apple be significantly 'gimping' the mini if it chose to go with a quad 4600 over a dual 5000?
Having been involved in the design of Intel CPUs in the distant past, I would not try to guess that. It's the sort of question that only benchmarking will answer. All we can say is that the HD 4600 graphics will be better than the HD 4000 graphics in the current Mini. What do you use now for your photo/video editing?
 
I would love to see a cheaper version of the mac mini. More people could getting into osx
 
I would love to see a cheaper version of the mac mini. More people could getting into osx

You mean like the original? £499 now v £339 then. Computer absolute pricing has always remained inflation-proof but the Mini has bucked that for some reason.

Shame as I'd always have two on the go if the price had stayed near where it was at the start.
 
The only real question for me is, can I live with the new form. It's obvious that it'll have the airport form factor. If you are going to update the board for a new processor architecture and Ssd chip drive, then you're going to change the form since you are no longer chained to fitting in the legacy cd/dvd drive. Technologically, of course it will be a MacBook Air in a cube. But can they shrink that hideous 3.8 x 6.6 thing down to perhaps half the height? I doubt it, so I just have to hope it'll be black. And I'd say odds are at least 50/50 that it will be.

Perhaps silly to say but if its black I'll be getting one to finally setup a Plex box.
 
How is that even possible?

iTunes lags for a second or two whenever you press "Play" or change tracks. It's off doing whatever iTunes does, inefficiently. Spotify, on the other hand, on a decent internet connection is as near to instant as it gets. It probably does some clever caching or some such.
 
How cool would it be if it was something like the mockup I've put together? :D

Can I have four of those . . . for the Lego car I am building? Seriously, it looks like a tire with a flat spot. Nice mockup, though.


Retail stores must be clearing out Apple computers across the board for a major refresh before back to school... BestBuy has the 15" MBPr i7 for $1249 (regular price of $2099!) BestBuy Link

That price is unbelievable. Same model in 12 stores in my area sells for $1839.99 on clearance/open box. That is a steal.
 
Doubt it will get any dedicated GPU. That is what apple is gonna try and push external thunderbolt GPUs. Maybe apple will update it with an even smaller form factor with blade type SSDs and soldered memory.
 
it'll be a pretty design, a pretty little box. very small -

it will be thing on your desk right in front of the HUGE RAT's NEST of wires and dongles and cables that you MUST use because they made it too pretty and small.
 
It originally was $500. And most consumers don't consider $600 (plus monitor, keyboard, and mouse) to be a bargain.

Especially a cumbersome tool for serving needs. Don't misunderstand, I have a 2012 running as an HTPC connected to an actual media server. It runs very well with Plex or XBMC. Sure a custom built may have been cheaper, but for the size it fits perfectly in my media cabinet, communicates with all my Mac and Windows based systems, and the 1000+ digitized SD and BD movies with DTS or ACS surround sound play beautifully (spent 1 year learning, studying, mastering advanced settings then using handbrake (and other apps), mp4 codecs now support full DTS, with a 12-Core Mac Pro, converting DVD rips was well worth the trouble).

As an HTPC, sure. As an alternative to the X-Serve rack mounts or any rack mount system for true hot swapping and server features, these don't suffice.
 
it'll be a pretty design, a pretty little box. very small -

it will be thing on your desk right in front of the HUGE RAT's NEST of wires and dongles and cables that you MUST use because they made it too pretty and small.

Thus the irony of the iMac and "new" "Mac Pro".
 
Retail stores must be clearing out Apple computers across the board for a major refresh before back to school... BestBuy has the 15" MBPr i7 for $1249 (regular price of $2099!) BestBuy Link

WoW if this is true then I am very tempted to pick one up. I'm a college student who was planning on shelling out $2k+ for the equivalent Haswell model but for $1300 that's a different story.

I know the LG image retention issue is bad but I'm willing to take it to Apple right after I buy it and get it replaced if it's only $1300. Anyone have any opinions?
 
Having been involved in the design of Intel CPUs in the distant past, I would not try to guess that. It's the sort of question that only benchmarking will answer. All we can say is that the HD 4600 graphics will be better than the HD 4000 graphics in the current Mini. What do you use now for your photo/video editing?


2010 Core 2 Duo Macbook. the 2013 Mini will be a significant upgrade regardless lol.

choosing to stick with a quad 4600 makes sense from both a business & logical perspective seeing as the 4600 is looking like a significant upgrade vs the 4000.

coincidently, whichever route the Mini ends up taking reminds me a bit of the whole why didn't Apple put a Core i3 on the Macbook Pro 13"? discussion back in 2010. because the technology wasn't yet there to fit an i3 in the 13" motherboard, Apple chose to upgrade the GPU instead with a custom nVidia card.

Iris 5100 would of been really nice (almost too nice for the price range lol) but I can't hate on a quad core 4600 seeing as the 2012 Quad Core Mini already puts in work.

if Apple sticks with the current design of the Mini which allows user-installable memory along with a dual hard drive mount, the 2013 refresh is looking like a thumbs up purchase wise and would make an excellent 'stop gap' before saving up for a Mac Pro.

..then again, a 13" rMPB with Iris 5100 is looking pretty tempting haha.

thanks again for the insight.
 
I highly doubt that Hasswell is going to help anything with current Mac Mini in terms of performance improvement.
 
Update, or death. Stay tuned...

Not that this is any indication, but the same three Mini's have been sitting at the Local Worst Buy for nearly the past 6 months. (Granted Worst Buy has a notorious PeeCee bent, but still)
 
Dude, you may not be as far from what they have planned. The Mac Mini has kept this rounded corner square form for over five years now. I can easily see a new design in place. Last round the CD player became an option.

My guess on this is we'll see a longer and shorter mini while keeping the same width. Updated expansion is a quad core processor, two HDMI ports with front and back USB 3.0 ports.

Good thinking. I just wish a Mac mini + Thunderbolt Display were cheaper than a base iMac. Probably not going to ever happen, even if Apple ever releases a 21.5" Thunderbolt Display.

As for a round future iMac mini, I think it could be done. There's no need to keep a rounded-square form factor. And, if anything, Apple seems to be moving away from "square" to "circular" for some things. E.g. the future circular "mothership" Apple HQ building and the cylindrical Mac Pro. Remember: Apple has made semicircular motherboards before. For the original flat-panel "sunflower" iMac G4 (2002).
 
As long they don't change up iMacs soon because I just bought one last weekend. Love it and it runs way cooler than my late 2009 iMac.
Great! The heat wave of summer 2010 put black spots on the display of my 2009 iMac, fortunately while still in Apple Care. Weather forecast for this weekend predicts new temperature records in Berlin. So now I'm looking for fan control apps.

Besides the heat problem my biggest complaints about the old iMac design were, glossy reflexions, dust behind the glass, loudness of speakers and failing optical drive. I'm not saying they solved all those problems, but they addressed all of them.

The new iMac is a wonderful machine. Still not buying one until 4K retina displays. :cool:
 
I love my 2011 middle range Mac mini :)

Same here... Just love it :)

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I got the mac mini from 2011 with an amd graphic card.
GPU is very important for me. And i would love to buy a mini for my daughter.. But all the newer mac mini 2013 are slower than my mini..
 
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