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what will the price point be?

given that the mini now is about 300 bucks less expensive than the white MB the new mini would be $900-$1000:eek::eek:

i think it's clear that there will be no firewire and mini display port. that makes it quite expensive for people who have a monitor and want to switch from PC to Mac. $900 for a mini and $50-100 for an adaptor.
 
With the option of 2 HDDs, if Apple enabled hardware RAID support and added in a PCIe x16 slot for optional dedicated graphics, even just a low-profile one, it'll probably satisfy most people's need for an upgradable low-cost Mac. Maybe make the CPU socketed instead of soldered too. And with 4GB SODIMMs, even 2 SODIMM slots is enough.
 
...and almost definitely no firewire
...and possibly only display port video out

I've been considering buying a Mac Mini for a LONG time, but if either of the above are true then Apple will continue to not see more of my money. In fact, given the way Apple has been headed I wouldn't be surprised if in addition to those 2 major flaws if they also raised the price at the same time!

Yea, those 2 points are gonna be very important to people.
 
Rumors all the major sites have been reporting:

1. New mac mini.
2. Possible new media server.
3. Standalone software for AppleTV functionality on any mac.

Can it be that all three are ONE product, ala the iPhone intro?

Maybe the real answer is:

You can order a mac mini (with two hard drives even with lots of storage) with a software option that turns it into a AppleTV/home media server solution out of the box?
 
what will the price point be?

given that the mini now is about 300 bucks less expensive than the white MB the new mini would be $900-$1000:eek::eek:

i think it's clear that there will be no firewire and mini display port. that makes it quite expensive for people who have a monitor and want to switch from PC to Mac. $900 for a mini and $50-100 for an adaptor.

This is the one thing I think that is going to turn a lot of people off to it. Not only does there monitor not work, now they have to purchase more equipment to make it work.
 
Without blu-ray, the mac mini is irrelevant in terms of being a home theater device.
 
The optical drive bay should be big enough for a slim 3.5", non?

I'm VERY interested in how this would play out (I'm dubious if it will). If you do install an extra hard drive, would you still have the unused disc slot at the front?

Doesn't sound like a design Apple would go for...

But...Apple has already gone with this design on the new notebooks why not with the new Mac Mini?

My Only concern at this point is the I/O. Mainly IM hoping this does not include the proprietary DVI port of which it appears Apple does not make the adapter available ( read this yesterday on a referral link).

All other things aside IM in on one or two of these babies! ;)

No they will be using DisplayPort or mini DisplayPort, DVI is out.

This is the one thing I think that is going to turn a lot of people off to it. Not only does there monitor not work, now they have to purchase more equipment to make it work.

But everyone is basing this off of the fact that the new notebooks (which have a built in monitor) don't come with an adapter, however the Mac Mini doesn't have a built in monitor so it is much more likely that they will include an adapter.
 
Without blu-ray, the mac mini is irrelevant in terms of being a home theater device.

Lot's of people (including me) were waiting to see if the mini would be a suitable price and spec for a high res home theatre device.

I'm not fussed about blu-ray or any optical drive, but I can't see any way of getting hd sound out of these new macs, which is a massive (no sale) issue for me.
 
Because they haven't gone with this design. They use SATA for the ODD, but they don't offer dual HDDs on the website. He's saying that if Apple were to offer dual HDDs, the slot for the ODD may or may not be left regardless of its use.

Well I think the BTO part in the main article is...just wrong, but it will be like the notebooks where you can do it yourself.
 
Well I think the BTO part in the main article is...just wrong, but it will be like the notebooks where you can do it yourself.

Bingo, but it would be un-Apple to leave a useless slot on their computers. The point isn't that you can do it as an aftermarket upgrade, the point is that Apple offering dual HDDs BTO hinges on their desire to make two lines of case; one without an ODD slot and one with an ODD slot.
 
I'd say no FireWire and Mini-DisplayPort out are both guarantees

I agree that no firewire is almost guaranteed (and is an absolute deal breaker for me) but I think it's slightly more possible that a non-displayport video out will be offered. My reasoning is that the Mini is marketed as a simple and economical Mac that you have to "BYODKM: Bring your own display, keyboard and mouse."

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So having only a display port video output destroys the majority of the market that the Mini is supposed to be aimed at. Obviously people in this market don't already have a monitor that accepts display port video input, and requiring a relatively expensive video port converter means the Mini is no longer at all simple and easy to just set up and go, and it's now even more expensive when the price is already right on the edge of being too expensive for the economical buyer.

But all of that is not to say that Apple won't do it. It's to point out that it would be another huge misstep in Apple's recent product decisions. For me personally it doesn't make a difference though, because since it almost definitely won't have firewire then there's no way I would buy it anyway.
 
Lot's of people (including me) were waiting to see if the mini would be a suitable price and spec for a high res home theatre device.

I'm not fussed about blu-ray or any optical drive, but I can't see any way of getting hd sound out of these new macs, which is a massive (no sale) issue for me.

Unless of course it has an HDMI output! If it doesn't have a blu-ray player we could always buy one and then use the HDMI. I doubt it will, but we can hope.

I am wondering if this machine will be the server/apple tv/ all rolled into one. Long shot I know.. but hey.
 
This is the one thing I think that is going to turn a lot of people off to it. Not only does there monitor not work, now they have to purchase more equipment to make it work.

There is a Display Port to DVI adapter so you could use the monitor you have. The problem is, these newer LED monitors are expensive, probably will cost more than the mini itself.

I just got a 20" ACD because I have older MBP (no LED for me lol) , but if they include an adapter or way to easily hook it up to my monitor, then i'll look into getting a mini to use as a home base station.
 
Bingo, but it would be un-Apple to leave a useless slot on their computers. The point isn't that you can do it as an aftermarket upgrade, the point is that Apple offering dual HDDs BTO hinges on their desire to make two lines of case; one without an ODD slot and one with an ODD slot.

I (as previously stated by someone else in this thread) just hope they make it more accessible like they did with the new MBPs, I don't care about a BTO 2nd HDD as long as I can install one myself aftermarket and keep the internal ODD and make it into an external ODD.
 
Unless of course it has an HDMI output! If it doesn't have a blu-ray player we could always buy one and then use the HDMI. I doubt it will, but we can hope.

I am wondering if this machine will be the server/apple tv/ all rolled into one. Long shot I know.. but hey.

Yeah, I'd like to see a properly configured hdmi output on it, alongside the display port.

I think the mini should be a desktop/storage device/atv all rolled into one, it's just a a few software apps.
 
I could see this being the start of the DVI to mini display port adapters

It would have been long enough to get the people to start buying the new display and could come bundled with the mini and on sale separately for the rest of the lines.

OR>>>...... DVI could be dropped and no adapter and this will also be the announcement of the 20 and 30" displays

D:apple:
 
I will be really disappointed if Firewire is gone, and I think it will be, But I'd bet it will also ditch DVI. If you think about apple doesn't really worry about the Consumer anymore. They want you to buy a new mini with a LED cinema display, apple keyboards and mice.
 
what will the price point be?

given that the mini now is about 300 bucks less expensive than the white MB the new mini would be $900-$1000:eek::eek:

i think it's clear that there will be no firewire and mini display port. that makes it quite expensive for people who have a monitor and want to switch from PC to Mac. $900 for a mini and $50-100 for an adaptor.

Actually, the DVI and VGA adapters are only $29. Only the dual-link adapter is $99. My guess is that very few people who buy the Mini are going to need the more expensive adapter.

Also, the white macbook is currently $999, so $300 less would be only $699, not the $900-$1000 you predicted.
 
I'd be very surprised if there isn't a 'whatever' output to dvi included in the box.

Not so sure about firewire, I'd guess it's a few pence to add the hardware in the grand scheme of things and hopefully the macbook outrage from people that use it has filtered through their customer feedback .

Whatever happens, I'm pretty sure I'll be back on the day of release, complaining about the sale price.
 
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