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and the point is? Does that mean fathergll is wrong & you’re right?

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I am simply stating facts that most videophiles know and most professional reviewers acknowledge. There is little in the way of performance differences when all panels used are exactly the same, especially when each display is ISF calibrated. What ever differences there are may be small, but one person may pick unit A as slightly better whereas the next person may pick unit B. Differences are primarily in motion handling and how the manufacturer chooses to display HDR.

If you’re trying to make an argument out of this or something more than it is (judging from your tone), be my guest. Having been in high end video for many years, I’m simply trying to impart some experience, not start an argument. Many don’t know that all OLED TVs use the same LG panels.
 
Not at all. My attention is not to make an argument and I’m not in the high end video thingy. I just enjoy the product I buy, that’s enough for me.

There are enough brands in the market to satisfy everyone, I just don’t see the point of telling someone what you mentioned and I don’t see the point of stating that what you are saying is a fact and it is something that “videophile” & professional reviewers acknowledge.

Looks a bit like proselytism but I must have misunderstood your comment.

No harm or disrespect intended.
 
No problems, I think you did misunderstand my intent. The poster was regretting not having Panasonic as a choice and I was simply reassuring him that most professionals see little difference from one OLED brand to another, so there’s no reason to have any significant regret. Having attended these shootouts, I too see little difference.

Choices and competition are always good and I’ve always enjoyed Panasonic products, so I’d love to see them here in the U.S. too.
 
Have you tried the solution provided by Danyx, earlier?
THANK GOD! PROBLEM SOLVED! VERY SIMPLE!
Danyx's suggestion worked except the location of HDMI setting. On LG OLED65C8PUA setting screen we need to select PICTURE then select ADVANCE (or OTHER?, sorry I don't want disturb my tv settings anymore) then select the HDMI port where Mini is connected then "turn ON" HDMI ULTRA HD Deep Color. "Turn OFF" was the problem.
 
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THANK GOD! PROBLEM SOLVED! VERY SIMPLE!
Danyx's suggestion worked except the location of HDMI setting. On LG OLED65C8PUA setting screen we need to select PICTURE then select ADVANCE (or OTHER?, sorry I don't want disturb my tv settings anymore) then select the HDMI port where Mini is connected then "turn ON" HDMI ULTRA HD Deep Color. "Turn OFF" was the problem.
That's the direction I was going too in my post on the last page when I discussed color space. I called it 'wide color', not remembering the exact phraseology that LG uses. Glad to see you solved the issue, but was the final resolution to turn on deep color or turn it off?
 
There is little in the way of performance differences when all panels used are exactly the same,

Yes, everyone uses the same panels. But the electronics are different, and that can be significant for those who care. I just read an article about how the new Sony Master OLEDs do a better HDR color translation. Unfortunately can't locate the article.
 
Yes, everyone uses the same panels. But the electronics are different, and that can be significant for those who care. I just read an article about how the new Sony Master OLEDs do a better HDR color translation. Unfortunately can't locate the article.
Yes that’s true, and trust me, I’m one of those ‘who cares’, but the differences are still minor, and unless done in an A/B environment with 2 fully ISF calibrated displays from 2 different manufacturers, most people will not see the differences. Over the years I’ve attended almost every high end video display shootout in NY, watching a myriad of test patterns and real content. The top displays are often very close in PQ and the scoring reflects that. In the case of OLEDs that’s more true than ever and when you speak to fellow attendees there’s universal agreement on that. As an example, LG does a better job than Sony with peak brightness when displaying HDR, but again, if you don’t see the Sony sitting alongside, fully calibrated, you’d never know. Sony would do a bit better with motion, but this year that gap has all but disappeared.

My point is that yes, there are differences, but they’re still subtle differences. Most wouldn’t notice them unless it was pointed out while sitting alongside another TV and even then it wouldn’t be an ‘in your face’ difference. This is why most of these high end shootouts are generally close in scoring. The differences are subtle and as a result, some see one display as slightly better and others see another as slightly better. I’ve been on the AVS forum since its inception, and you’ll rarely find people in general agreement as to the ‘best’ TV. The last time there was widespread acceptance as to the ‘best’ TV, was back in the Pioneer Kuro plasma days.

Today, these OLEDs are all stunning, regardless of whose name is on the display. In actuality, I find the OS of the display more important than these minor PQ differences. I have a large screen Sony LCD with the Android OS and I find it horrible. It’s laggy, quirky, often freezes and a real PIA. Sony released many software patches to try to fix it, but it’s still bad despite some improvement. It’s detracted from my viewing enjoyment despite the very good PQ. I’m amazed that Sony stuck with Android, since other flavors of Android work well in other devices. The newest Sonys are better, but still not buttery smooth. OTOH, my LG OLED’s OS is quick, snappy, never freezes and never gets in the way of my enjoyment.
 
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Panasonic doesn’t sell in the U.S. because they were getting killed by LG, Sony and Samsung (the latter has no OLED offerings). So Panasonic could no longer financially support the U.S. operation.

With that said, keep in mind Panasonic, Sony etc. all buy the OLED panels from LG. So although there may be some performance differences in the end product, they’re all pretty minor. I’ve attended almost all shootouts hosted by Value Electronics over the years in NY, so I’ve seen this for myself. Most of the performance comes from the panel itself, and in any given model year they’re all the same. Differences between these products is splitting hairs.


I really liked Panasonic as they were the ones who picked up the plasma torch after Pioneer jumped out of the market but that proved to be a bad mistake as they probably should have been more focused on LCD. The only thing I can hope is that OLED proves sales are strong enough for them to come back into the U.S. market.

Thats true they are all extremely close and have different strengths to small degrees. The UK shootout last summer had the Panasonic as the overall winner(though its small margin as you said)....apparently Panasonic works close with some Hollywood studios and their color accuracy in their panels are excellent. It's just annoying that a panel that great is out of a huge market.

I know that calibrator D-Nice used tp bring in his souped up Kuro to those shootouts.
 
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I really liked Panasonic as they were the ones who picked up the plasma torch after Pioneer jumped out of the market but that proved to be a bad mistake as they probably should have been more focused on LCD. The only thing I can hope is that OLED proves sales are strong enough for them to come back into the U.S. market.

Thats true they are all extremely close and have different strengths to small degrees. The UK shootout last summer had the Panasonic as the overall winner(though its small margin as you said)....apparently Panasonic works close with some Hollywood studios and their color accuracy in their panels are excellent. It's just annoying that a panel that great is out of a huge market.

I know that calibrator D-Nice used tp bring in his souped up Kuro to those shootouts.
No, D-Nice actually bought a bunch of OLEDs to replace his Kuros. You're right using the term 'souped up'. He used to get the best black levels out of his by making 'modifications'. He'd do those modifications for customers if they used him for ISF calibrations. We had a lot of back & forths on AVS, he's a good guy.
 
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I’m having exactly the same issue, the TV is not recognizing the Mac Mini connected via HDMI 2.0 cable.

Any solutions?
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I have the same TV and I get the same issue. I solved it using an apple thunderbolt 3 to hdmi apdater instead of Mac mini 2018 internal hdmi port.
 
My new Mac Mini working fin with my 65” Sony KD-65XD8599. No issues at all.

Running at 60Hz rather than 30, picture does look a bit better than before. Less stuttering I think too.

Hi.
Were you able to play 4K mkv movies or 4K demo clips from 4k media org.

Am planning to get the Mac mini 2018 to connect with my Sony X90 4K tv.
 
all you have to do is turn on HDMI ultra deep color in settings for the HDMI port you use. Mac Mini outputs 30bit video signal, so this setting enables the LG TV to digest the signal.
The big question is calibration though: There are three settings for wide gamut in LG TV - auto - medium and wide (or something like that). Mac Mini outputs in HD-709 gamut by default and that could be changed to P3 as well. At default, and the wide gamut setting set to "wide" the colors look oversaturated, and what's even worse, youtube video looks DIFFERENT in all three major browsers (Safari, Chrome, Firefox). I am still fighting these issues, and looking for perfect settings short of using a hardware calibration device.

I have the same TV and I get the same issue. I solved it using an apple thunderbolt 3 to hdmi apdater instead of Mac mini 2018 internal hdmi port.
 
Anyone had any luck with this.? I also have a 2018 MacMini to an LG C6P OLED and I've tried multiple HDMI 2.1 cables, all the HDMI ports on the TV, and multiple Thunderbolt to HDMI active cables. My Apple TV 4 works fine on any cable/port combination, as does my 2013 MacPro 12 core D700 64Gb 1Tb.

Noted when I change resolutions on the MacPro I need to power cycle the LG most times however this works, although when I want specific resolutions (display properties then change the LG to default, then option click the word 'scaled') the default resolution is so incredibly tiny I have a very hard time even seeing it - on the LG the display box goes down to almost an inch hahaha - it looks like 8k.!!!.

I've even tried putting the resolution on another HDMI monitor to 1080 and multiple others then hot and/or cold swapping to the LG but no cigar. So I'll be stuffed if I know what to try next.

EDIT: Fixed - I just found 'ultra deep color' in GENERAL rather than under PORTS where I was expecting it :)
 
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