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Mac OS 10.4.7 Update Soon?
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MacBook Released Thread Now Over 2600 Posts
Congrats! Let us know how it goes over at the MacBook Released thread - now over 2600 posts. 🙂stuartluff said:
maybe they'll start learning from MS and get a previewer that can browse through directories, without selecting all the files first and then opening them. Safari could use a few new features similar to firefox. Can't wait to see whats next!
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Any sort of functionality in Leopard would be cross-platform compatible. If it works with Intel, it'll work with PPC. Otherwise, there'd be no point in releasing it as a universal OS, as software products would have to specify "Leopard for Intel" as a requirement. (Specific hardware utilities excepted, of course.)JW Pepper said:
For the record, I can't imagine PPC being dropped until 10.7 unless there is some radical new CPU technology announced within the first few months of Leopard's release that is fundamentally incompatible with PowerPC (we're talking something like what the FPU did to computers when it was introduced). Any announcement of that type after the first few months will probably be too late to require of 10.6, leaving no technical reason why PowerPC can't continue to be supported at least until 10.7.
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mtrctyjoe said:
Welcome to day one with Safari. It's an awesome app but its such a memory hog, and like you said has multimedia plugin problems up the wazoo. Firefox isnt that great on the Mac and Camino never seems to be developed anymore. Im trying Opera soon tho...
yahoo messenger and mac war?
can anyone explain why just two days ago yahoo all of a sudden doesnt allow mac book pro users to access and broadcast webcams??
pao
can anyone explain why just two days ago yahoo all of a sudden doesnt allow mac book pro users to access and broadcast webcams??
pao
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When I first got my Powerbook, it had Panther on it for about a month, then Tiger went on. The Panther mail client was lovely - and I went straight to thunderbird once I got Tiger.bretm said:
More intergrated syncing for my Symbian 60 device would be good, perhaps RSS feeds or my email inbox?
Where is this upgrade? I am having a lot of problems with the sound in my new MacBook (kernel panics & volume control).
So where IS 10.4.7 already?
Its release was "imminent" over a week ago-no known issues, documentation written etc.
Its release was "imminent" over a week ago-no known issues, documentation written etc.
Peace said:
I think this is one of the longest delays of an update I've ever seen. They must really be running into issues with it.
MDA
10.4.7 Core Audio woes
I know that the company Apogee (which makes high end audio recording interfaces and such), has a pairing with Apple at the moment for their upcoming product called the Ensemble, which is a Mac only high quality audio interface. The retail on it is around 2,000.
Anywho, I do know that the Ensemble is also delayed due to Apple's core audio driver issues, which they are supposed to be working on with 10.4.7. Apogee has basically hinted that 10.4.7 is the key to their device working, but it seems that there are some major holdups or issues. This "software issue" has been going on since Feb 06' so it's well beyond 10.4.7.
I'm thinking that there is some massive core audio issue that Apple has promised Apogee that they will resolve in 10.4.7 and it simply isn't getting done right. I am guessing that they seeded 10.4.7 to developers and gave it to Apogee accordingly and Apogee was like "WTF?, it still isn't working!"
So maybe Apple has had to go back to the drawing board with the Core Audio issues. It's not just a "driver issue" but I think something fundamental about Core Audio not working right (a few things haven't ever been quite right with it!)
The purpose of the Ensemble is to have a high quality interface meant to work with primaraly Logic Pro, and set Apple/Apogee up to compete with Digidesign's Protools (FCP is already competing with the parent company Avid that makes video editing software). Apple is basically trying to set themselves up to tackle a giant in the audio/video industry.
It might not sound like a big deal for most of you, but for Apple and a lot of Audio people it is a big deal.
Apogee was commenting on release dates and such, and their hardware is finished. They have stopped commenting now however, and basically are just saying that the ball is in Apple's court. My pure guess would be that lawyers have been called (at least for quick advice) and that there is a chance that this partenership might fade away really quickly, or at least be strained, because Apple hasn't had their **** together.
Lots of guesses. We'll have to wait and see.
I know that the company Apogee (which makes high end audio recording interfaces and such), has a pairing with Apple at the moment for their upcoming product called the Ensemble, which is a Mac only high quality audio interface. The retail on it is around 2,000.
Anywho, I do know that the Ensemble is also delayed due to Apple's core audio driver issues, which they are supposed to be working on with 10.4.7. Apogee has basically hinted that 10.4.7 is the key to their device working, but it seems that there are some major holdups or issues. This "software issue" has been going on since Feb 06' so it's well beyond 10.4.7.
I'm thinking that there is some massive core audio issue that Apple has promised Apogee that they will resolve in 10.4.7 and it simply isn't getting done right. I am guessing that they seeded 10.4.7 to developers and gave it to Apogee accordingly and Apogee was like "WTF?, it still isn't working!"
So maybe Apple has had to go back to the drawing board with the Core Audio issues. It's not just a "driver issue" but I think something fundamental about Core Audio not working right (a few things haven't ever been quite right with it!)
The purpose of the Ensemble is to have a high quality interface meant to work with primaraly Logic Pro, and set Apple/Apogee up to compete with Digidesign's Protools (FCP is already competing with the parent company Avid that makes video editing software). Apple is basically trying to set themselves up to tackle a giant in the audio/video industry.
It might not sound like a big deal for most of you, but for Apple and a lot of Audio people it is a big deal.
Apogee was commenting on release dates and such, and their hardware is finished. They have stopped commenting now however, and basically are just saying that the ball is in Apple's court. My pure guess would be that lawyers have been called (at least for quick advice) and that there is a chance that this partenership might fade away really quickly, or at least be strained, because Apple hasn't had their **** together.
Lots of guesses. We'll have to wait and see.
No, i'm really not
No, the core audio isn't fixed.
There is a huge thread over at GearSlutz (a recording website), where a representative from Apogee named Max, who is working closely with Apple has been speaking with everyone for the past few months. (http://www.gearspace.com/board/showthread.php?t=58576)
Also, Apple Insider has pointed out here (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1821) that 10.4.7 contains core audio fixes. Maybe it works for you in iTunes using the built in audio interface, but there is a LOT more to core audio that audio professionals need for it to work correctly for everything.
There is also a video from MusicMeise (http://http//www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=2924#) that the Apogee representative says that the hardware is ready, but yet they are waiting for the software to be fixed. Seeing that the Apogee doesn't have any drivers on it's own and is totally supported by Core Audio, and that they have said the ball is in Apple's court, somewhat points to the fact that Core Audio is NOT ok, and that Apple should be addressing this soon in an update.
Pro Application Support 2006-1 did not take care of the issue. It's not application support, it's got to be core audio!
I've got nearly two grand tied up in trying to get this interface. If core audio was fine i'd have the interface here right now. Apple hasn't had their **** together fully on their end, or this would be working right now.
If you have any other speculations, or insider information about Apple's involvement with Apogee please educate me. I could be dead wrong and there is no ensemble and there is no core audio issue.
No, the core audio isn't fixed.
There is a huge thread over at GearSlutz (a recording website), where a representative from Apogee named Max, who is working closely with Apple has been speaking with everyone for the past few months. (http://www.gearspace.com/board/showthread.php?t=58576)
Also, Apple Insider has pointed out here (http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1821) that 10.4.7 contains core audio fixes. Maybe it works for you in iTunes using the built in audio interface, but there is a LOT more to core audio that audio professionals need for it to work correctly for everything.
There is also a video from MusicMeise (http://http//www.sonicstate.com/news/shownews.cfm?newsid=2924#) that the Apogee representative says that the hardware is ready, but yet they are waiting for the software to be fixed. Seeing that the Apogee doesn't have any drivers on it's own and is totally supported by Core Audio, and that they have said the ball is in Apple's court, somewhat points to the fact that Core Audio is NOT ok, and that Apple should be addressing this soon in an update.
Pro Application Support 2006-1 did not take care of the issue. It's not application support, it's got to be core audio!
I've got nearly two grand tied up in trying to get this interface. If core audio was fine i'd have the interface here right now. Apple hasn't had their **** together fully on their end, or this would be working right now.
If you have any other speculations, or insider information about Apple's involvement with Apogee please educate me. I could be dead wrong and there is no ensemble and there is no core audio issue.
Peace said:
I'm guessing they probably (if Apogee was smart) have some contractual obligations to get the stuff working after a 6 month delay. If 10.4.7 doesn't make the Ensemble work, I have a feeling that there's going to be hell to pay from Apogee.
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matticus008 said:
Which should be at least 3 years or so. And if it is supported during 10.7 then it would be more like 4 years or a little more. I'd love to see 10.7.9 running on my powermac 🙂 Personally I think its hard to tell how long they will support PPC, they really have to for at least a couple years, after that its a gamble. It could be as long as 5+ years as long as the PPC processors are fast enough and there aren't any major architectural changes. IE a 400mhz G4 won't be running 10.9, but a 2.7 ghz G5 might.