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gekko513 said:
I agree it would be nice to not have this debate every time there is a point upgrade to Mac OS X.

So just to say this once more. The version number isn't a decimal number. Who has heard of a decimal number with two periods? Those are three integers separated by periods.

...he said, thereby continuing the debate 😛
 
yep

iKarl said:
WMV/AVI/ETC PLUGIN FOR SAFARI AND QT

I cannot emphasize that enough. Release codecs for QT to play that crap, so I don't have to open VLC or some other third party app after trying to download some video clip. Or trying to watch clips on Yahoo Movies, which doesn't detect QT on Intel Macs, or at least mine. Any wmv/avi/etc clip that is integrated into a page and not a downloadable file, you're screwed. Safaris integrated media playing functions blow hardcore. All that stuff has to run under emulation with Safari, clogging up system resources. Can't we get a native wmv/avi/etc codec for intel macs, and have it included in QT/Safari? 😕 😕

I like Safari as a browser, I don't want to have to use IE or Firefox. I haven't had any problems with the pages loading etc., but that's probably due to 2 gigs of ram, Intel Mini or not.

So far, to get any integrated file that's one of those files to play, you have to either boot up safari and plugins under rosetta, or boot up XP with Boot Camp. And the audio bugs in Boot Camp with headphones not cutting off speakers is quite annoying, particularly in a workplace if I want to watch CNN, etc on my break.

Gah! 😡

/rant over

Just frustrating considering the ease of use that accompanies most things on a Mac, only to get a jumble of third party apps etc to run those files on new Macs. If I wanted a plethora of third party apps, I'd use XP all the time 🙄

I know AVI isn't the best of formats because it combines the a/v into one stream etc, but there are still many of those files around. The WMV one is what i'd like more for QT. Just something straight from the horse's mouth, so to speak, and not having to go third party. If new switchers buy a mac and boot up safari, only to realize half the files on news sites, yahoo, etc. can't be viewed....needless to say if I was a switcher I'd be a bit confuzzled.

And don't bother with the "well XP doesn't play AVI/Divx natively". XP is a crap OS. OSX should be above that.


I agree with most of this. I cant watch WMV from atomfilms on my mac.🙁

Tiger was running smoothly on my QS and I couldn't understand why everyone was complaining about safari. But the last update really messed things up. There's a noticeable sluggishness on my system now, and apps like safari and even itunes just up and quit by themselves even if they are the only app running.😕

So I had no bugs until the bug fixes. Hopefully this new round will restore some of my previous funtionality.
 
daneoni said:
I wouldnt be surprised if go up to 10.4.9.1 i.e version 1, version 2 (10.4.9.2) etc, Tiger is longest running OS (April 04-Present) if i remember correctly and is the most advance and apparently required/requires a lot of tweaking.


Actually...Tiger started shipping on April 29th, 2005, not 2004.😎
 
gekko513 said:
I agree it would be nice to not have this debate every time there is a point upgrade to Mac OS X.

So just to say this once more. The version number isn't a decimal number. Who has heard of a decimal number with two periods? Those are three integers separated by periods.

It's like a discussion I was having with a Mac hater, Windows lover years ago. She was laughing at how stupid it was to have a version number like 7.5.3 because numbers aren't like that. She wasn't laughing when I told her than Win95's official version number was 4.0.0.95 or something like that.

It's whatever you want it to be--just make it count.
 
the dropping wifi

Hopefully they can address the dropping AE on the mac mini intel. It doesn't last one day without just going off the map.

I really hope they can get that one fixed. If you use the mini headless, it's a real pain to need to go back and fix the airport signal. 🙁
 
anything that makes ichat better is ood in my book. on a side note, i hope it takes care of this macbook whining. it is better than it used to be but still definitly there and very annoying
andreas
 
ChrisA said:
Mac OS Xiv2a
Mac OS XB3iii
Max OS XIb3
and so on. This would insure that sites like this would have importent things to talk about for years to come

For those that missed the joke. Do you remember how UNIX version were named? Not unlike the above.

How about: "Mac OS X Pro Turbo Gold Extreme Edition Plus"? 😀

Yes, I remember UNIX versions. All too well.
 
I've noticed some javascipts or something that have been making safari incredibly slow and it'll beachball on some pages for a few minutes before letting me continue. I hope they fix this

Also it would be cool if they fixed the finder column view resize cursor bug. I know its not major but I'm really surprised they didn't catch that one in the last 4 updates!
 
Maybe they fixed Safari so I can use rich text editing in gmail and other web 2.0 apps. I've been using Camino and I'd gladly switch to Safari if they fixed this!
 
iSpud - I second that request. I currently can't use writely.com or protopage in Safari for this very reason. Hopefully it gets sorted soon!
 
brepublican said:
If Apple can fix the following, I would not be offended:

1. iPhoto. Whenever I open iPhoto, everything on my PB comes to a standstill. I know it uses a lot of RAM but c'mon, does every single app thats open have to beachball for 2 min until iPhoto is done loading my measly 1,700 photos? I'm sick. Sick and tired.
...

I have over 20,000 photos and it would bog down for 15 min. then I got an extra 2 gigs of ram (total 3 gigs) and now it takes 15 seconds

Ben
 
Am I the only one?

What's with all this Safari bashing?

Am I the only one that has no issues with Safari? I love it, as a matter o' fact! It's always fast, reliable, and compatible with every website I've ever visited.

On the other hand, although Firefox is just as fast to open webpages, it seems to take forever to launch!
 
Leopard Unleashed Is Looking More And More Like January 2007 Now

Well I thought it would be July before we saw 10.4.7. But I'm sure there are some needed MacBook bugs to be quashed. Leaves 7 months 'til MacWorld SF. With only two updates left til Leopard, The January 9, 2007 SteveNote is looking more and more like a Leopard Release Event. 🙂
 
shawnce said:
Does a little red light come on near the power button (but inside the case) when the fan are "going crazy"?

If so then the computer thinks that the air dam isn't in place. If it is in place then the one likely source of the issue is a faulty door sensor which is based on an optical sensor. Look for the silver / white covered tab on the plastic air dam (lower right tab IIRC). When the fans are going crazy try shining a flashlight down into the slot related to that tab to see if causes the fans to go back to normal (sense is toward the inside of box in the slot).

If the sensor appears to be at fault you may want to get your system serviced.

No, everything appears normal.

It's only started doing this since I updated to 10.4.6 last week.

schatten said:
What's with all this Safari bashing?

Am I the only one that has no issues with Safari? I love it, as a matter o' fact! It's always fast, reliable, and compatible with every website I've ever visited.

On the other hand, although Firefox is just as fast to open webpages, it seems to take forever to launch!

I love Safari. No issues for me here.
 
Leopard Is For Both PPC and Intel Macs No Doubt

JW Pepper said:
OSX is done really, there are few bugs and no major changes are needed fro PPC. Lepoard is really for Intel, I am sure of that and doubt I will get lepoad for any PPC machines.
OS X is done? 😱 Yeah right. Bulletin: It's just gettin' started. Leopard will be way for BOTH PPC and Intel Macs. Why you would even begin to think like that is beyond my ability to comprehend.
Peace said:
OS X is OS 10.* and is not "done"..There is no way Apple will abandon O/S support for the PPC for at least 2 more years.. Leopard is for both platforms..Trust me.I know 😉
That's a big Duh! 😛

FYI QuickTime 7.1.1 is out today.
QuickTime 7.1.1 addresses an issue with 3rd party start-up items on Intel Macs. This release also fixes an issue exporting Keynote presentations to iDVD.
 
kinless said:
No OS X series has ever ended on the same number

10.0.4
10.1.5
10.2.8
10.3.9
10.4.7?

Either stop here or press on to 10.4.10. 🙂

Why should we stop here...10.5 has not even got a release date yet....Late this year or next year...so .8 and .9 are both comming (I hope) 😉
 
I certainly hope it's not in an Internet Explorer kind of way... if you default to using Firefox as your web browser, you can't double-click (or right-click open) a .jpg file on a WebDAV share because that's dependent on IE. Stuff like that where the implanted browser as the desktop really kills me because results are unexpected at the weirdest times.

jonharris200 said:
I wonder if with Leopard, we will somehow see the boundaries blurring between operating system and web browser, in a kind of Web 2.0 way.
 
legacyb4 said:
I certainly hope it's not in an Internet Explorer kind of way... if you default to using Firefox as your web browser, you can't double-click (or right-click open) a .jpg file on a WebDAV share because that's dependent on IE. Stuff like that where the implanted browser as the desktop really kills me because results are unexpected at the weirdest times.
Totally. Using Safari as Finder would blow, I cant even imagine why anyone would think that 😕 its just so unMac
 
schatten said:
What's with all this Safari bashing?

Am I the only one that has no issues with Safari? I love it, as a matter o' fact! It's always fast, reliable, and compatible with every website I've ever visited.

I second that
 
milo said:
No. It means the tenth revision of 10.4, which is entirely different from 10.5.
Please, everybody. Please, please, please read all of the discussion about this when 10.3.9 was released before going down this path again. Please, stop now. Back away from the 10.4 numbering discussion. These aren't the droids we're looking for. You can go about your business. Move along, move along.

Now, as for 10.4.7, it would tickle me pink if Apple introduced any other variety of color choices other than Aqua and Graphite, but hey, if wishes were horses we'd all be eating steak.
 
daneoni said:
Slightly off topic but why can't they get rid of the brushed metal look in apps such as Safari, Address Book, Calender etc like they did with iTunes and the whole iLife suit of apps and replace them with Aqua. I think its way better looking

You'll have to wait until 10.5 until brushed metal finally dies, at least for Apple apps. They have been moving away from it for awhile, but I'm guessing that 10.5 will finally kill metal in whatever apps are left.
 
I hope they fix what ever is crashing Mail and Safari. Some of the crashes, which I have reported, are reproducible. This has been going on since 10.4.4.
 
bretm said:
Being a web designer I can tell ya neither FF or Opera display sites correctly. Neither does IE, but that's always been the case. FF and Opera just don't implement all the current standards. Neither does Safari, but it's a lot closer.

Plus the design of the tabs and interface is just light years ahead of anyone. They are all the same as far as speed goes as far as I can tell these days.

Something could be wrong with your system, but I think it's just all in your head. 🙂

Camino. "4 eva".
 
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