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When I get my new Powerbook I'm going to have Leopard on it and I might try to re-install Tiger on my now dying Powerbook. Just to see what happens.
 
When I get my new Powerbook I'm going to have Leopard on it and I might try to re-install Tiger on my now dying Powerbook. Just to see what happens.

If I get a new iBook G4, I will be debating on whether to install Leopard or Tiger on it! If it is the 1.33 GHz or 1.42 GHz, Leopard will probably be on it, though. For a while I just couldn't make up my mind and dual-booted my G4 with Tiger and Leopard. Eventually, I moved on (mostly because I ran out of space :p) and installed Leopard on the entire partition of my tiny 40 GB drive, which I still have not upgraded. :eek::D
 
I like the 5c, just cause it feels solid for a plastic phone. Anyway, on my G4 933MHz iBook, I'm probably gonna keep Tiger on it, unless someone has one of these that runs Leopard well and tells me. Tiger has a nice, clean UI, but Leopard has all the apps. Contrary to what most are saying, I thoroughly enjoy Leopard's Finder over Tiger.
 
I like the 5c, just cause it feels solid for a plastic phone. Anyway, on my G4 933MHz iBook, I'm probably gonna keep Tiger on it, unless someone has one of these that runs Leopard well and tells me. Tiger has a nice, clean UI, but Leopard has all the apps. Contrary to what most are saying, I thoroughly enjoy Leopard's Finder over Tiger.

If it had an up to date processor, and came is strong colours like total white, red an black, I would consider it strongly.

Who wants a pale green phone, that's black on the front???
 
If it had an up to date processor, and came is strong colours like total white, red an black, I would consider it strongly.

Who wants a pale green phone, that's black on the front???
Since this is now off the topic, I'll just say my thoughts on the 5c and move on.

I resent the 5c because Apple chose to discontinue the iPhone 5, upgrade the iPhone 5 internals a bit and put it all in a plastic case. Apple then marketed it as a "new" phone.

Apple did this instead of moving the iPhone 5 down and making the 5s the flagship. Instead it chose to keep the iPhone 4s around in that spot. This is also why I resent the iPhone 4s. A much older and far less powerful iPhone and Apple chose it over the iPhone 5.

On top of all this, this, the 5c is plastic (call it premium plastic if you want, it's not metal) and Apple didn't even have the decency to make it in black. Then you add in that cheese grater plastic case that is so poorly designed it actually covers over the Apple logo on the back…well you have a neon mess. Don't even get me started on the PlaySkool, Fisher Price inspired iOS 7!

So…there it is. My reasons for hating the 5c and 4s. That said, I don't look down on anyone who has one or prefers these phones. That's your right and your personal preference.
 
Since this is now off the topic, I'll just say my thoughts on the 5c and move on.

I resent the 5c because Apple chose to discontinue the iPhone 5, upgrade the iPhone 5 internals a bit and put it all in a plastic case. Apple then marketed it as a "new" phone.

Apple did this instead of moving the iPhone 5 down and making the 5s the flagship. Instead it chose to keep the iPhone 4s around in that spot. This is also why I resent the iPhone 4s. A much older and far less powerful iPhone and Apple chose it over the iPhone 5.

On top of all this, this, the 5c is plastic (call it premium plastic if you want, it's not metal) and Apple didn't even have the decency to make it in black. Then you add in that cheese grater plastic case that is so poorly designed it actually covers over the Apple logo on the back…well you have a neon mess. Don't even get me started on the PlaySkool, Fisher Price inspired iOS 7!

So…there it is. My reasons for hating the 5c and 4s. That said, I don't look down on anyone who has one or prefers these phones. That's your right and your personal preference.

Hey, I bought my 4s (that I'm typing this message with here) when it came out and I still love it! Don't compare it to a 5c please :p
 
Hey, I bought my 4s (that I'm typing this message with here) when it came out and I still love it! Don't compare it to a 5c please :p

LOL! Did anybody hear that Apple's speculation for the new iPhone 6 will have over a GB of RAM, an A7 or 8 processor, clocked at 2.6 GHz? That's just overkill and ridiculous.
 
Just last Sunday I picked up my replacement Powerbook. It is one model, 1.5 15" (SMS/BT2, with 64vram), above my dying PB in my sig. Almost identical. The person had Tiger on it and I forgot how fast it starts up when there isn't a lot of stuff in it :D

I'll sort of regret it but I need to move my hard drive with Leopard on it into the slightly newer PB. I can't just transfer via firewire because my HD is much larger and newer than the 80 Gig in new purchased mac. I could use time machine.
 
Just last Sunday I picked up my replacement Powerbook. It is one model, 1.5 15" (SMS/BT2, with 64vram), above my dying PB in my sig. Almost identical. The person had Tiger on it and I forgot how fast it starts up when there isn't a lot of stuff in it :D

I'll sort of regret it but I need to move my hard drive with Leopard on it into the slightly newer PB. I can't just transfer via firewire because my HD is much larger and newer than the 80 Gig in new purchased mac. I could use time machine.

You could still transfer the data over via FireWire. Boot the new one in Target Disk Mode and use Carbon Copy Cloner and selectively uncheck some of the bigger files on the old Powerbook that won't fit on the new one.
 
You could still transfer the data over via FireWire. Boot the new one in Target Disk Mode and use Carbon Copy Cloner and selectively uncheck some of the bigger files on the old Powerbook that won't fit on the new one.

I could have but didn't need to. Everything worked out perfectly. Except for the first flashing folder upon powering on. It was because I didn't connect the HD cable all the way.
 
Mac OS 10.4 Tiger v.s. Mac OS 10.5 Leopard

Another thing I've noticed about the two OSs. I don't know if this is just on my computer, or if it is common among other PPC Macs as well. While running 0-2 applications at one time, Tiger only uses 100-300 MBs of RAM at a time, while Leopard with the same amount of apps open uses 600-950 MBs, and sometimes more.
 
Another thing I've noticed about the two OSs. I don't know if this is just on my computer, or if it is common among other PPC Macs as well. While running 0-2 applications at one time, Tiger only uses 100-300 MBs of RAM at a time, while Leopard with the same amount of apps open uses 600-950 MBs, and sometimes more.

That is precisely why I don't use Leopard on a regular basis. Seeing that made me bonkers.
 
That is precisely why I don't use Leopard on a regular basis. Seeing that made me bonkers.

It also uses a lot more VRAM up. My iBook has 32 megs, and under Tiger, expose and dashboard and things like that work great. Under Leopard, it's slow and laggy. With Leopard on my PowerBook, it works great with 64 megs of VRAM.
 
So…there it is. My reasons for hating the 5c and 4s. That said, I don't look down on anyone who has one or prefers these phones. That's your right and your personal preference.


I also dislike the plastic 5c (I have a 5 currently) but would still take it over any other phone that's out there if that was the only iPhone on offer. I have a HTC One Mini as my UK phone for when I go 'home' and it's a pain. Crashing apps, really really terrible keyboard etc.

Re iPhone 6 specs, well they may seem ridiculous now but there are lots of games out which are very taxing and this will only continue, remember some people use their phones as games consoles ;)

For me all I can say is I noticed a good speed/smoothness difference moving from the 4 to the 5 but am in no hurry to change currently. Once things start slowing down I may consider it but no sign of that yet.
 
I've been tempted to install OS X 10.5 on my Power Mac G4, and even though you say that they are both very similar and aren't really much of a comparison, I'm still worried about speed drops. It is slow as it is when browsing the Internet. I know that people's experiences with different operating systems may vary.

If anyone responds with their experience, my Power Mac G4 has two 1.25GHz processors and 2GB of RAM. It's technically maxed out with the exception of hard disk storage and graphics capability.
 
I've been tempted to install OS X 10.5 on my Power Mac G4, and even though you say that they are both very similar and aren't really much of a comparison, I'm still worried about speed drops. It is slow as it is when browsing the Internet. I know that people's experiences with different operating systems may vary.

If anyone responds with their experience, my Power Mac G4 has two 1.25GHz processors and 2GB of RAM. It's technically maxed out with the exception of hard disk storage and graphics capability.

That G4 will run Leopard just fine! The UI would see improvements from a more powerful graphics card, but it will still run just as well as Tiger. It opens the door to a much greater software library as well, which is never a bad thing.
 
Leopard has better network integration in my experience, but the graphics performance leave something to be desired. For instance, Tiger's dock is really smooth even with dual monitors attached to my G5 with an ATI Radeon 9600 XT. Leopard has choppiness when opening programs.

The actual speeds of the OS are comparable. Tiger is faster to start, but Leopard feels faster in terms of opening programs. The graphics in Leopard drive me nuts though, and I have a decent video card!
 
That G4 will run Leopard just fine! The UI would see improvements from a more powerful graphics card, but it will still run just as well as Tiger. It opens the door to a much greater software library as well, which is never a bad thing.

Okay, I think I will have a look into it. I'm just not willing to spend $70+ on an older operating system. I would love to have a newer OS though. ScreenFlow came out on 10.5 too, didn't it?
 
Okay, I think I will have a look into it. I'm just not willing to spend $70+ on an older operating system. I would love to have a newer OS though. ScreenFlow came out on 10.5 too, didn't it?

Yes, you can actually still buy a license for it on their website.
 
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