Mac OS 10.5.2, Mac Pro Update At Macworld?

[mcnaugha]

Don't Ask Don't Tell

You have a link or source?

You're an Apple spy or lawyer right? As if I can name my source.

Let's narrow it down to someone who recently toured a manufacturing plant.

Unfortunately this is one of those ones where you'll need to wait til MacWorld to see if it's true. Unless some cheeky person releases a snapshot before Steve shows it.

 

[Silverhawk]

With the recent events of Hybrid CrossFire from ATI, if they do go with ATI hopefully they can integrate this technology down the road because it leaves room price wise to have a low to mid-end card and give a decent video performance.

 

[Lynxpro]

Somehow it seems nobody believes that MWSF could be the stage for this *huge* update. First Blu-Ray drives...
8 Cores over 3 GHz...
1600 MHz FSB...

No matter how much Jobs might wish that the HD transition era be managed by iTunes, I think it is time for him to be a pragmatist and put an end to the format war by including Blu-ray drives on the Macs.

The iMacs and the MacBooks could easily have DVD burner/Blu-ray readable drives standard now that the prices have dropped. Then include the BD-R drives on the Mac Pro and MacBook Pro models.

Apple has been a member of the BDA for over a year now; it is time for them to ship some product. Not only would this help out Jobs' stake in Disney, but it would also kick some more sand in the face of Microsoft since HD DVD truly is their format...and anything that hurts Microsoft pretty much is a win for Apple.

 

[Lynxpro]

All this and not to mention that HD DVD is winning the hardware war. I mean damn, did you see that Wally World had limited quantities of HD DVD players on sale for $99! Also, from what I can see a lot of studios have moved away from blu-ray exclusive releases. Even the ones that do do blu-ray only releases in the US often release the same movie in HD format overseas.

No it [HD DVD] isn't. Blu-ray is selling media wise in the States 2 or 3 to 1 versus HD DVD, even without counting the various BOGO [buy 1 get 1 free] promos. The only HD DVD hardware manufacturer is Toshiba, whereas Blu-ray decks are made by Sony, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, LG, Panasonic, and more. Overseas, it is 70/30 in Blu-ray's favor in Europe and Australia, and 90%+ in favor of Blu-ray in Japan.

And when it comes to studios, only Universal and Paramount/Dreamworks Animation are HD DVD exclusive; Paramount/Dreamworks being exclusive for 18 months because Microsoft/Toshiba gave them $150 million in cold-hard-cash for that exclusivity. Warner is format neutral, but is rumored to be going Blu-ray exclusive - even though they own intellectual property in HD DVD - after January 2008. The rest of the studios...Disney/Pixar/Buena Vista/Miramax, Fox, Sony/MGM are all Blu-ray exclusive.

HD DVD is toast, and anything that states differently is Microsoft sponsored FUD.

 

[mangoman]

No it [HD DVD] isn't. Blu-ray is selling media wise in the States 2 or 3 to 1 versus HD DVD, even without counting the various BOGO [buy 1 get 1 free] promos. The only HD DVD hardware manufacturer is Toshiba, whereas Blu-ray decks are made by Sony, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, LG, Panasonic, and more. Overseas, it is 70/30 in Blu-ray's favor in Europe and Australia, and 90%+ in favor of Blu-ray in Japan.

And when it comes to studios, only Universal and Paramount/Dreamworks Animation are HD DVD exclusive; Paramount/Dreamworks being exclusive for 18 months because Microsoft/Toshiba gave them $150 million in cold-hard-cash for that exclusivity. Warner is format neutral, but is rumored to be going Blu-ray exclusive - even though they own intellectual property in HD DVD - after January 2008. The rest of the studios...Disney/Pixar/Buena Vista/Miramax, Fox, Sony/MGM are all Blu-ray exclusive.

HD DVD is toast, and anything that states differently is Microsoft sponsored FUD.

From what I've heard, where the porn industry goes, so goeth the format...

 

[Lynxpro]

From what I've heard, where the porn industry goes, so goeth the format...

And speaking of, Digital Playground, which was famously HD DVD exclusive in that genre, has just announced that they will be supporting Blu-ray...

 

[Lynxpro]

But with Sony in charge of it, I expect it to stay at a premium over the "standardised" formats. Yes, Apple is a member of the HD DVD group and the BR Association and has stated in the past that it will back both formats.

I think you have it backward... HD DVD is proprietary. Sony has much less control over Blu-ray than Microsoft has of HD DVD. Toshiba is just the frontman of HD DVD.

As for Apple being on the HD DVD board, that's only so that their hardware isn't locked out of playing HD DVD discs if the format wins. Apple does not benefit at all from HD DVD's near exclusive use of Microsoft's VC-1 codec [aka Windows Media 9] whereas Blu-ray now almost exclusively uses H.264 "AVC" as a codec on their releases, which we all know that Apple worked on. Blu-ray uses a customized version of Java for their interactive menus while HD DVD uses Microsoft's HDi format.

If you really think Apple wants Microsoft to gain another revenue licensing stream in consumer electronics, you might want to ponder why it is that Apple's iTunes/iPod platform has yet to license Microsoft's WMA audio codec.

Why do people not understand this on a pro-Apple website?

 

[Peace]

Microsoft is switching to H.264 for their High Definition media.

 

[Eidorian]

Microsoft is switching to H.264 for their High Definition media.

Le gasp!

Not that it's that surprising.

 

[ghstmars]

Microsoft is switching to H.264 for their High Definition media.

Do you have a link of that news ? or heard it on the grapevine?

 

[jalcide]

I agree. I've got the last generation of the powerbook g4 in the 17" form-factor and am always asked by people how "portable" it is. I always point out this comparison: A 13/15" owner gets to enjoy packing up their laptop in a backpack, traveling to their destination, unpacking it and then using it. I, on the other hand, being a 17" owner get to enjoy packing up my laptop in a backpack, traveling to my destination, unpacking it and then using it.

To me, the extra weight and size become invisible once it's packed up. On the other hand, the time I spend actually in front of it trying to get work done, with the extra pixels, is very much visible.

 

[faisal]

What do we have here -- it's G4DP, shadow boxing with the invisible hand.

WHO GIVES A POO ABOUT A ULTRA PORTABLE!.

The same people who bought the 12" PowerBook, held out forever for a replacement, and are split between (a) still holding out, (b) giving up and buying a 15", (c) giving up and buying a Windows box that weighs 1-2 lbs less than the 12" PowerBook.

YOU CAN'T ACTUALLY DO ANY SERIOUS WORK ON A SCREEN THAT'S 13"

While you may not be able to do any "serious work" on a screen that's 13", I was able to do a fair amount of serious work on a 12" screen over the course of 5 years, and only gave up when I was no longer to get anything done with an 867 Mhz processor.

IS IT TOO HEAVY FOR YOU TO CARRY.

Many of the people doing this "serious work" of which you speak wind up with wrist injuries as a result -- wrist injuries which make lifting bulky laptops both painful and damaging. For that matter, many people who've followed the manly advice to just do some squats and dead-lifting found that their manly advisors don't know squat about physical health, and people who aren't careful with their weight lifting regimen wind up with the sort of spinal injuries that make it painful to carry even minor loads on their back. While it is true that these people received bad advice on the personal health front, all the all-caps typing in the world isn't going to make it a good idea for them to carry around an overweight laptop.

WELL BE A MAN AND GROW SOME.

It's a little known fact that the majority of people are not, in fact, men, and are biologically incapable of growing some. If you are able to affect low-cost sex changes at scale you may wish to commercialize it -- there's a large market (albeit probably not as large as the market for a low-weight laptop running Mac OS X).

Anger vented

Window opened, fan turned on.

 

[kaiwai]

Good lord - 'Intel's latest compilers blah blah blah' - the last time I looked, Intel's compilers didn't support objective-C and Objective-C++. They can't be using LLVM because CLANG is no where near finished.

As for Itanium - the only people supporting that thing is HP and a small handful; even Intel with its push of Xeon, acknowledge that its (Itanium) is nothing more than a giant white elephant.

 

[rosalindavenue]

From what I've heard, where the porn industry goes, so goeth the format...

That may have been true for VHS and a maybe even for DVD, but that industry is getting killed by free downloads like youpr0n and amateur stuff. Cite:

http://tinyurl.com/2sfznn

 

[G4DP]

Your funny, NOT!

faisal, god that was a good read. Thank you for brightening my day.

Apple rewrites a whole OS because of a new instruction set? I don't think so.

 

[byeehaaw]

where is it!

 

[Anonymous Freak]

Apple rewrites a whole OS because of a new instruction set? I don't think so.

See: Apple Intel transition and iPhone. (Although I do hope you were being sarcastic.)