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What frustrates me about Tahoe is that there are some genuinely nice features as far as software improvements goes (I particularly like the idea behind Control Centre and the ability to shortcut system functions), but the interface just spoils it for me.

Tahoe was a great opportunity for Apple. They wanted to update the macOS UI for a new generation of Mac. Great. But they allowed completely the wrong person - Alan Dye - to head up the operation, and his pseudo-intellectual ideas on why mimicking the properties of glass was bold, innovative: not because it improved the user experience, but because he was too preoccupied with whether he (and his team) could accomplish the feat in the first place. Classic Jurassic Park philosophy.

You only have to look at their official video to see what a load of absolute self-applauding backslapping hipster-snob nonsense these guys are. They’re focusing their multi-million dollar creative pay checks in the dumbest of details, purely so they can say they have “great attention to detail”.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, nothing wrong with an opinion that has reasoning. But I’ve yet to read a single clear argument for why Liquid Glass is better than what we had previously; and I get criticised for raising clear and obvious drawbacks.

Apple has a history of designing to “less is more”, their current hardware being perfect examples. Liquid Glass could not be more polar opposite. Apple has added more complexity in areas where it doesn’t need to exist. You can create a pleasing sense of depth without the need for distracting floating pills, inconsistent button shapes and placement, overly rounded window corners, overuse of shadows.

I’m genuinely still wrapping my head around why the dock on my desktop needs to create refractions. Why?
Tahoe genuinely shows design overriding function, not function dictating design. The missing ingredient in all of this, as I've said on many other posts and directly in feedback to Apple is there is no coherence nor understanding of information architecture in the LG implementation. It is ad hoc, subjectively poor, and ultimately less intuitive and inefficient to use. Everything is now hidden behind a disappearing control which requires additional interaction whether mouseover or mouse click in order to actually access needed functionality. The best example is the Volume control in the Now Playing bar in Music. You have to click it to open the Volume slider, but clicking it again doesn't close the Volume slider. And there isn't even a handle on the current playback position! You have to hope that you click on the appropriate segment of the track to move it forward or backward. It's clear all of this is an afterthought subsequent to the "let's show all the content underneath so it emphasizes how glassy the Now Playing bar is" mentality. It would be comically bad except that it impacts peoples' workflow so much that it's infuriating. At least they haven't completely broken Logic Pro X with LG yet.
 
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, nothing wrong with an opinion that has reasoning. But I’ve yet to read a single clear argument for why Liquid Glass is better than what we had previously; and I get criticised for raising clear and obvious drawbacks.
am not here saying it's better, just acknowledging that it's (of course) different, and at that, i find it no less useful that any previous mac OS interface (in fact, i like the look of it).

and you're right: everyone is entitled to their opinion 👍
 
At least they haven't completely broken Logic Pro X with LG yet.
why would they? i've used LP for years, and it's interface only changes with new versions of logic itself. outside of a few notiification windows for example, it looks just as it did in sequoia. anyway, am not worried about it.
 
I did not like 26.0.1, but now with 26.1, and reduce transparency on, I find Tahoe OK. I do prefer sharper window corners but I'm OK with Tahoe overall now.
 
Still have massive problems due to the Electron thing. Not really Apples fault but still .. it makes the OS quite unusable.
 
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why would they? i've used LP for years, and it's interface only changes with new versions of logic itself. outside of a few notiification windows for example, it looks just as it did in sequoia. anyway, am not worried about it.
I was merely noting that Apple hasn’t broken their pro apps with LG’s terrible UI. LP is one of few the apps that don’t look terrible in Tahoe.
 
You only have to look at their official video to see what a load of absolute self-applauding backslapping hipster-snob nonsense these guys are. They’re focusing their multi-million dollar creative pay checks in the dumbest of details, purely so they can say they have “great attention to detail”.
Bingo, perfect paragraph on !
yes this is a problem with many things live TV shows, sports games and COMPUTERS!
I have not seen anything revolutionary since 2012.
 
My biggest disappointment has been the new spotlight, which somehow they made worse.

Need to get someone who uses spotlight all day everyday to rethink it.

I jumped from high sierra to sequoia and it's already a downgrade, without what sounds like 99 more bells and whistles. and they use it all day everyday alright, just not how you got used to, because they know better, and because it's 'stunning' and 'delightful'.
 
I hate it. The whole LG experiment is a failure. And the lack of attention to the details is almost upsetting. And not the Apple I bought into years ago. Here's a few examples... what's with the wasted space...? Just one of many niggles and gripes I have with Tahoe atm... And the mis-sized icon in the Settings App... It looks ****!
 

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confusing to me, all this stress over tiny details (am not, of course, referring to the larger issues); rounded corners, mis-sized icons. space!

hopefully, apple will continue to improve OS 26. but nothing since the very-first beta has kept me from working, playing; using my apps, finding my apps, using the finder... and am having as good a time as i ever had on a mac (i started on OS X 2).

as always, just my thoughts, of course
 
I have perceived with it I can’t take anymore of it. It seriously needs a hell of a lot of work to sort out the bugs and UI work.

Spotlight I have no interest in it. I don’t want my Mac offer crap or knowing the insides of a ducks arse. I don’t like how launchpad has gone and now it’s lobed into spotlight. It’s ugly, unuserable I don’t like this Liquid Glass crap. I think the whole OS has had more bells and whistles added to it. Cosmetically. If Apple is serious about Mac OS ‘the best yet’ (🥱) they really need to sort out bugs. I don’t understand why they are hell bent of releasing new software year after year.
 
confusing to me, all this stress over tiny details (am not, of course, referring to the larger issues); rounded corners, mis-sized icons. space!

hopefully, apple will continue to improve OS 26. but nothing since the very-first beta has kept me from working, playing; using my apps, finding my apps, using the finder... and am having as good a time as i ever had on a mac (i started on OS X 2).

as always, just my thoughts, of course
The detail is all Apple is meant to care about.

And whether big details or small details (not withstanding your opinion of course) it matters. And whilst it is not the end of the world - if you have been using Apple products as long as I have (mid 80s onwards) then the downward trajectory of quality is upsetting.

Being on the spectrum these things stand out and are glaring and jarring! It's sloppy and speaks volumes about corporate profit over everything else!
 
The detail is all Apple is meant to care about.

And whether big details or small details (not withstanding your opinion of course) it matters. And whilst it is not the end of the world - if you have been using Apple products as long as I have (mid 80s onwards) then the downward trajectory of quality is upsetting.

Being on the spectrum these things stand out and are glaring and jarring! It's sloppy and speaks volumes about corporate profit over everything else!
of course. everything matters. but rounded windows should not keep anyone from working within that window. and LG is something you like, or don't... it's not a failure in the real world.

there are graphic fixes that need to be done, but they're not intrusive, horrible; they're details to fix. i get that.

as far as i'm concerned, my experiences generally get better, and i like that apple moves forward (remember, all of this is invention, there's no map for the future). am enjoying the journey...
 
of course. everything matters. but rounded windows should not keep anyone from working within that window. and LG is something you like, or don't... it's not a failure in the real world.

there are graphic fixes that need to be done, but they're not intrusive, horrible; they're details to fix. i get that.

as far as i'm concerned, my experiences generally get better, and i like that apple moves forward (remember, all of this is invention, there's no map for the future). am enjoying the journey...
I continue to use my Mac the same way as before, all apps are working as before, it continues to get the job done.
I quite frankly do not notice some of the detail people are observing, but that’s me.
Most important for me, the Mac is a tool, to get a job done, and my Mac does just fine at that.
That is my opinion and of course everyone is entitled to theirs.
 
You only have to look at their official video to see what a load of absolute self-applauding backslapping hipster-snob nonsense these guys are. They’re focusing their multi-million dollar creative pay checks in the dumbest of details, purely so they can say they have “great attention to detail”.
What's the link to this video?
 
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