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Mac OS 26 Is Utter Garbage and Apple Has truly lost its way....

Oh right the Music.app, such a nice experience.

When reopened at boot, it gets stuck and you have to manually quit it and reopen.
If you pause a song for 10 minutes or more, clicking the play button does nothing.
It doesn't remember the songs order in the songs view.
The Apple Music section UI doesn't respect the foreground/background selection color.
The Apple Music section UI is often buggy, and some rows can't be clicked.
Items in the Song menu are disabled when in the Apple Music section, the same exact items are enabled in the contextual menu.

There is a whole thread about its bugs: https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...es-bugs-issues-troubleshooting-tahoe.2458544/
 
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fisherking said:
wait, are you saying that everything apple does with their OSes is simply based on the 'existing Mac platform'? so, no innovation, invention, change? nothing shaped by other OSes, newer tech, other aspects of the world we live in? hmmm
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Liquid Glass as it is implemented on macOS just took the same step as iOS and iPadOS earlier, taking cues from the hardware to round the screen corners, then the content views. Earlier, macOS windows did not inherit this cascade. This is 'consistency' vertically ( hardware -> software ) and horizontally ( between platforms). I just think that's half-assed and does not derive from the spesifics of each platform.
 
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Jobs said "taste" was important in design.
Jobs' father once built a fence where the back side of the fence was as well-crafted as the front side.
Jobs studied calligraphy in college. Thus highlighting the importance of the humanities in his life.
All these things tie into design.
UI design is extremely closely related to 2D graphic design, like in print design.
 
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the only good thing about Tahoe is we can revert to MONTEREY!
just the lies fake promises all summer is the annoying thing about being Tahoe'd

seems to be I should ignore anything Tahoe here since I don't Tahoe anymore.

I used the word Tahoe for bad things lately in public......
"wow that person really "Tahoe d" that car stopped at a red light"
"make sure you don't Tahoe that roof replacement project"
"the current airport situation is so "Tahoe" this year!
"what, you purchased a Tahoe?"

we get the drift. enjoy being Tahoe everyone!
 
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MBAir2010 said:
the only good thing about Tahoe is we can revert to MONTEREY!
just the lies fake promises all summer is the annoying thing about being Tahoe'd

seems to be I should ignore anything Tahoe here since I don't Tahoe anymore.

I used the word Tahoe for bad things lately in public......
"wow that person really "Tahoe d" that car stopped at a red light"
"make sure you don't Tahoe that roof replacement project"
"the current airport situation is so "Tahoe" this year!
"what, you purchased a Tahoe?"

we get the drift. enjoy being Tahoe everyone!
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Sequoia is better than Monterey, tbh.
 
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SDAVE said:
Sequoia is better than Monterey, tbh.
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not on my Macs m1 for some strange reason.
I agree that Sequoia is a very stable OS but for M2 and up.
also Seq. does not like non programs and speakers.
heck even Monterey 2024 is not up to par so I'm using and older version 2023 Monterey.

if the Macs could not accept Monterey, I would have chosen Sequoia just for "open in new tab" feature.
 
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Sequoia is better than Monterey, tbh.
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My home Macbook is on Sonoma, and my work Macbook is on Sequoia. The only major differences I can see are -

1. More AI features in Sequoia, which I don't use
2. On Sequoia, when you click "x" on the nagging upgrade notification, instead of closing it opens the settings app. So basically, the system says "I'm sorry, you have selected the incorrect option. We have selected the correct option for you."

The forced AI and over-opinionated nature of these two things are very reminiscent of Microsoft.
 
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CasualFanboy said:
My home Macbook is on Sonoma, and my work Macbook is on Sequoia. The only major differences I can see are -

1. More AI features in Sequoia, which I don't use
2. On Sequoia, when you click "x" on the nagging upgrade notification, instead of closing it opens the settings app. So basically, the system says "I'm sorry, you have selected the incorrect option. We have selected the correct option for you."

The forced AI and over-opinionated nature of these two things are very reminiscent of Microsoft.
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I'm mostly talking about stability. I don't really personally use Apple Intelligence at all, and Siri still sucks.
 
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Everyone is entitled to their opinion, nothing wrong with an opinion that has reasoning. But I’ve yet to read a single clear argument for why Liquid Glass is better than what we had previously; and I get criticised for raising clear and obvious drawbacks.

I’m genuinely still wrapping my head around why the dock on my desktop needs to create refractions. Why?
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I believe this is them getting ready for the OLED push on all their remaining, and big, displays. They can point and say “look how blingy this looks!” when scrolling/moving things around, and colors are dazzling and refracted everywhere. It likely sells some extra units.

Personally I think the refractions look amazing. But there is some mind boggling UI design choices all over the place, some elements that look like Fisher Price designs, and a way too strong reliance on transparency where there should be none. But At least for my experience, the 26.1 UI does actually feel surprisingly more snappy compared to Seqouia, on my M4 Pro, and that was a great surprise. I loathe the floating round UI elements in windows everywhere, but still not as much as I hate the great-System-Preferences-scrolling-list overhaul on MacOS from yonder.
 
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CasualFanboy said:
2. On Sequoia, when you click "x" on the nagging upgrade notification, instead of closing it opens the settings app.
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where do you get the x in the notification? mine pops up randomly at the top right, near the control centre, and only has 'install now' and 'remind later' to click on. it's still enough to make me throw things.
 
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where do you get the x in the notification? mine pops up randomly at the top right, near the control centre, and only has 'install now' and 'remind later' to click on. it's still enough to make me throw things.
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The notification window has a small "x" at the top left. Yours doesn't?
 
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The notification window has a small "x" at the top left. Yours doesn't?
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haven't noticed, maybe I just thought it's a trap! I did right-click on the whole thing once, which invited me to 'manage notifications' or some such, only that nowhere in the settings can you turn this nonsense off.

ed: @!&# just popped up again, and still no x, just the two options, and the settings icon top left, which indeed takes you to - drum roll - settings.
 
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Got it with base M5 few days ago. Seems ok. Being a graphic designer myself I don't like those rounded corners, but what the heck, it's been an Apple way for years, that thing with unifying MacOS looks with iOS and iPad OS.

Apart from that, nothing gets in the way of my workflow so far. It's not too snappy but I guess it will be ok by some .3 or .4 update. Normaly I wouldn't update it from Sequoia till then but I have no choice with M5. All in all, classic Apple business. Move along, nothing to see here.

edit: only minor annoyances with external displays via Display port. I think I've read something somewhere about Tahoe being picky about quality of cables, but I'm not sure.
 
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haven't noticed, maybe I just thought it's a trap! I did right-click on the whole thing once, which invited me to 'manage notifications' or some such, only that nowhere in the settings can you turn this nonsense off.

ed: @!&# just popped up again, and still no x, just the two options, and the settings icon top left, which indeed takes you to - drum roll - settings.
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It's like the old meme about Fallout 4. You have multiple choices, but everything turns out the same no matter which you choose.
 
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arc of the universe said:
i don't think its garbage.

but i don't understand how apple could work years on Liquid Glass and yet it still be unfinished and as rough as it currently is.
the other thing that i can't understand is why apple would make it a tent-pole feature.

i have zero bugs with Tahoe that are at a level that bothers me. a couple of weird things the way they appear is all thats wrong.
its a stable OS and stable release.

but what has apple worked hard on during these two years to improve macOS even further? i can't see that.

i like the direction that Liquid Glass is going. i like it a lot. but its not finished and it shows.

there has been a lot of effort to bring iPad into a mac-like experience. that seems to be where the effort is being placed.
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I agree, and we are .2 releases in almost and it still feels unfinished. I still find weird visual issues. I hope the next release is a snow leopard release.

I'm a graphic designer/artist and I really appreciate liquid glass for what it is. But it also feels weird from a UX perspective. Sometimes its a complete distraction and other times its a delight to use.

I'm not sure where I stand on it yet.
 
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Its not perfect by any means and the UI needs a lot more refinement but overall i am having no problems with 26. Not sure why people have to go to such extremes all the time when something changes.
 
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trash eighty said:
Its not perfect by any means and the UI needs a lot more refinement but overall i am having no problems with 26. Not sure why people have to go to such extremes all the time when something changes.
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The reason is this. People want a OS where bugs are addressed and fixed instead of letting it fester in previous versions. They don’t want Liquid Glass and all the other crap which goes with it.

The OS in my opinion has more bugs than my back yard! It’s horrible. Things have changed and make it more harder to do anything. The launchpad which I liked has gone. Don’t like the new spotlight. I don’t want any of that. The Liquid Glass his a rock shoved through it. It makes the whole thing on screen very unreadable and not friendly to use.
 
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