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Update issues

Originally posted by sweetsdream
It's funny. Every time an update or upgrade comes out, I read on the forums about people having constant crashing or losing their files.

As I posted earlier, I have a large number of Macs and am responsible for a dozen others and there has never been a problem with any of them. It may well be the 3rd party issues are the root of all this as every standard off the shelf Mac would be affected if it were a problem basic to the OS. I think that if any haxies have been done to the OS, Apple cannot and should not be expected to be concerned about the potentially serious results that might follow. Standard add ons though are another story, but again, why did these issues not show up in the beta phase?
 
Re: Yeah yeah

Originally posted by Balooba
You misunderstand the issue about FW800 drives. Two FW400 is not the same as one FW800 drive.
:D

There were some scattered reports of FW400 issues.

arn
 
I just did the update and restarted and I had a new icon in the Dock labeled 'Safari' but the icon itself was a transparent questionmark. I poofed it off the dock, and no longer have the 'problem'. The regular Safari is still, and always has been, there.
 
WinXP had similar problems

For what it's worth - Windows XP had similar problems with IDE drives. Hardware related. The drive interface (on most drives) incorrectly reported back status on shutdown. In fact, WinXP still has similar issues with some drives, even Firewire, not cleanly shutting down because the drives report back incorrect information. Like Apple, MSFT's woes appear not have been their fault.
 
Still not able to install 10.3, so a 10.3.1 update is useless. Apple support said they didn't have the discs available to send me in replacement and didn't know when they would have more, but a call to the Apple Store revealed that they do have 10.3 available. I have been through two sets of discs (both from the same batch). Apple said they would overnight me a set of discs they "knew came from a good batch." This was on Thursday. I still don't have the discs. Now I'm on my third Jaguar reinstall. I guess I'll get to Panther at some point. Until then, Apple isn't on my list of favorite companies.
 
Just put 10.3.1 on a DP1000 G4 and no obvious problems or differences.

[edit:] I also noticed that for the first time ever, no permissions repairs were necessary after the update! Getting smoother, it would seem.

For those with network problems, the notes say nothing about changes to the networking code, so I seriously doubt this will make any difference (it shouldn't, anyway).

As for the FW400 issues (and yes, there have been reports of some, for example at MacFixIt--exactly what the cause or how prevalent is not common, but I'm being cautions), unless there was some bizzare and unexpected recursion in the FW800 code, I'm assuming that this update won't fix it.

Unless, that is, Apple actually updated the entire FW subsystem and just isn't mentioning it because they don't want to acknowledge there was anything wrong outside of the FW800 firmware glitch.

On a more general note, it's probably a good idea to keep the severity of the FireWire issues in perspective; one assumes there are thousands of FW800 cases out there being used by high end Mac users, and many times that many FW400 cases. Considering that, if you look at Apple's discussion boards, there are not a huge number of people actually reporting data corruption, and LaCie said they were having trouble reproducing the bug in "real world"-style testing, I'm guessing FW800 corruption isn't as automatic an issue as some people might be feeling.

And considering that there are far fewer reports of FW400 problems despite there being tens if not hundreds of times as many FW400 cases in the wild, whatever the issue is is probably very difficult to reproduce, and requires some very specific combintation of circumstances or hardware for it to happen.

My point is, I'm not assuming that whatever is going on with FW400 drives is a really obvious problem for Apple--it's severe, but very rare.
 
updated fine, no problems. ichat wouldnt open a link that someone sent me in an IM, but that seemed to only happen once and it works fine now. seemed to take longer booting up, on the waiting for network initialization or whatever. maybe that was just because i had updated the OS. i'll try rebooting later to see if it hangs again.

for what its worth: 15" powerbook, 1GHz G4, 768MB, 60GB, airport, superdrive. attached devices: 15GB ipod, Canon Powershot S230.
 
Anyone not finding the update. I open system prefs and click software update then click check now and it tells me no updates abailable. But I am still running 7B85. Any thoughts?
 
Just successfully updated to 10.3.1 ... no problems. The system "hacks" I'm running are CandyBar, VirtualDesktop, Little Snitch, Detour (thus APE), and MaxMenus. I think I may have changed something with the latest TinkerTool, but I forget.
 
Originally posted by Kirtus
Anyone not finding the update. I open system prefs and click software update then click check now and it tells me no updates abailable. But I am still running 7B85. Any thoughts?

How about the fact you're running 7B85 and are trying to update it to a final retail.
 
So has anyone been brave enough to turn on FileVault for the first time AFTER upgrading to 10.3.1?

Just curious if there is still issues.

I don't wanna be the guinea pig:D
 
I did a fresh install from the disks sent to me on the 24th. I was supposed to be a retail version. What is the buid for the retail version?
 
Just updated on a ALPB 15 and no problems so far. Of course it is ~ 10 seconds after I updated...

Weird thing, though, it made me send my registration info to Apple again. Anybody else seen this?
 
The retail version number should be on this site somewhere.
10.3.1 is now 7C107
With Kernel: Darwin 7.0.0
 
GeForce4MX/G4 Sawtooth issues

I am sorry to report that the update does not appear to have corrected the issue of GeForce4MX cards not being properly supported in G4 Sawtooth (AGP graphics) towers -- OpenGL is not working properly in almost any app (Folding@Home, Tranquility, Sonasphere, etc.), nor does Quartz Extreme seem to be fully supported (Quicktime movies play in the Dock, but I see no rotating cube effect when using Fast User Switching). General graphics performance is still worse than what I saw using Jaguar, which did properly support my card.

I did get the updated GeForce driver from OWC, so I can generally use my computer for most tasks -- but this is still really lame. Maybe Apple is waiting on re-written drivers from NVIDIA or something, who knows. *sigh*
 
Originally posted by blueBomber
How about the fact you're running 7B85 and are trying to update it to a final retail.
I updated from 7B85 w/o a problem. I hope that this isn't another 10.2.8 premature posting... still can't find it on apple.

Edit: updated from prerelease 7B85
 
Apple probably just hasn't updated it's website yet. It will probably be up later tonight or tomorrow.
 
Originally posted by blueBomber
But if he is running a developer seed version of the final release, wouldn't this stop him from seeing the patch in software update?

Developer 7B85 = Retail 7B85

7B85 is 7B85

arn
 
Xbench doesn't work...

I just installed the update and now Xbench crashes right after the graphics test. No other problems so far...
 
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