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Originally posted by Stike
I wasn´t able to browse Windows/SMB Networks up to now as it was advertized for Panther. Not even another Mac appeared in the "Network" shortcut... I hope this will be fixed now.


I'd have to believe that there is something wrong with your setup as I use this functionality every day. Might want to check your Directory Access to make sure you are using Appletalk and SMB. But I've had great luck with these features.
 
Originally posted by Stike
Very good. I have some terrible printing issues with my old Epson 740i (randomly stops while printing, making the page unusable) and I wasn´t able to browse Windows/SMB Networks up to now as it was advertized for Panther. Not even another Mac appeared in the "Network" shortcut... I hope this will be fixed now.

I'm hoping the update fixes my SMB issues as well. My Mac has a VPN setup for work, and ever since I set that up (ie, not just when the VPN is connected; 100% of the time since I first connected a month or so ago) SMB browsing has become incredibly slow to update, and my Windows machines can't print to the printer connected to my Mac ... Which is a shame, to say the least. SMB never had any problems until I threw the VPN in there (and it has no problems at work where VPN isn't an issue either ... in fact, it works better than the Windows XP and 2000 boxes!)

Then again, each of the updates since Panther has said they address SMB issues, so there's a pretty good chance the SMB/VPN conflicts aren't addressed this time either :( ...
 
I'm looking forward to the improvements to the download manager. The image dimensions thing will be a nice touch. I've never used tabbing in browsers that support it, so the fact that Safari doesn't have it is news to me. A nice addition anyways. The only thing that confuses me is this:

Option to open links from applications "in a new tab in the current window"

I thought Safari already had that. I mean...I already use this feature every day. Is my imagination just a little too overactive? :confused:

Does anybody have any specifics on the changes in 10.3.3? Any sexy new features to look forward to? :)
 
No mention of fixing the firewire drivers to be what they were like before 10.3 was released? I find that extremely disappointing.

http://www.macmaps.com/firewirebug.html

Apple needs to admit that it overdid their specification requirements for Firewire under Panther, and is going to be more
flexible on drives that haven't updated. I can name several Firewire 400 drive manufacturers who haven't made version 3.8 of the firmware available for their drives, and probably never will:

Western Digital
LaCie - I thought had done so, only to be corrected later on that they had not.
Maxtor
ADS
AIC Micro
Acomdata

If you know of an Oxford 911 chip drive maker that doesn't have a 3.8 version of the firmware, please submit feedback to their site, that MacAlly has made it available for their drives, and you think others should as well.
 
I'm most excited about the network browsing. Hopefully, they change it back to the way it was in 10.2.x.

(In 10.3.x you need to browse through the Finder to load a server. Then you CAN'T disconnect easily except by shutting off the computer. That's bad for us 'book users. The only current way around this is knowing the direct IP address of the server.)
 
i think he was just speculating about 10.3.5...i don't think even the developers at Apple know what they are going to do in 10.3.5...they probably just want to fix the bugs first before they even think of adding anything new
 
Originally posted by Spades
The only thing that confuses me is this:

Option to open links from applications "in a new tab in the current window"

I thought Safari already had that. I mean...I already use this feature every day. Is my imagination just a little too overactive? :confused:

You have always been able to middle-click on a link to have it open in a new tab (or right-click, select open in a new tab, or option-click I think).

However, is another application, like, say, Mail, tells Safari to open a link (ie, you click on a link in Mail), it always opens in a new window, never in a tab off the current window.

The latest build apparently allows the user to set a preference so that all requests from other apps go into a new tab on the current window instead.

IMHO, this still isn't the best solution, but it'll have to do. Personally, I'd like to see a right-click option on things like Mail which allow me to choose which window of Safari I should add a new tab to, or to create a new window with this link ... For now, though, dragging the link to a Safari window will do (although it would be nice to be able to drag it to the tab bar and have Safari create a new tab like Firebird does ...)
 
Re: Mac OS X 10.3.3 (7F24) and Safari 1.2 Seeded

Originally posted by Macrumors
Seed 7F24 has been posted with major changes to "....browsing networks....".


Hopefully this will finally fix Panther's problems browsing Windows (SMB) networks. Just encountered those yesterday...it's pretty annoying. Disabling Appletalk seems to fix the problem for me though (knock on wood).
 
huh?

Originally posted by jettredmont
You have always been able to middle-click on a link to have it open in a new tab (or right-click, select open in a new tab, or option-click I think).


how about just command+click? I'm not a fan of having to use menus for simple things. Watch in the status bar as you threaten a link with various key+click actions and it tells you waht will happen.
 
I hope the form fields you can tab to include drop-lists (select boxes with size = 1). I hate filling in an address on Safari. On most other browsers I can type my name, hit tab, type my address, hit tab, type my city, hit tab, hit M, scroll a few times to find MI, hit tab, type my zip. That doesn't work on Safari because the state list doesn't take the focus with tab. And that's like so last century!!!
 
it's about effing time!

i am like many users out there that have appreciated the mac and its culture but had to be a PC user for financial reasons until i could afford a mac. and one of the biggest upsets of switching to mac was the lack of support for many keys THAT COME ON THE KEYBOARD! like tab (you cant tab to elements in safari or many other programs with aqua interface), home/end (in ichat especially it bothers me that you cant home/end), and del (flaky in terminal). but this is great news, although they should have had tab-to-elements from the beginning.
 
hooray for updates... i was gettin a little worried about safari... i wish they would just include all the plug in things so i could play all those online games when i'm trying to waste time ;)
 
<CYNICAL>
I wonder how much Apple is going to charge for Safari 1.2?
</CYNICAL>

Hope WebFrame supports 'pretty' format for XML display
 
Originally posted by jettredmont
However, is another application, like, say, Mail, tells Safari to open a link (ie, you click on a link in Mail), it always opens in a new window, never in a tab off the current window.

you can in fact do this now, but the preferences don't make it very clear.

1. enable tabbed browsing in safari prefs

2. at the bottom of the general pane in safari prefs, set it to open links from other applications in the current window.

for me, with those settings, it creates a new tab in the current window whenever i click a link in mail or netnewswire or what have you...
 
Originally posted by mrwheet
I'm a little curious as to whether these "major" changes have anything to do with the new IBM XL compilers... That could make for some exciting speed bumps. Maybe yes, maybe no.

i wouldn't think so. i could be wrong, but there are two issues here that lead me to believe this won't happen. first OS X updates (major not minor) have the very marketable fact that they increase in performance. if ibm's new compilers even deliver half of what has been claimed, OS 10.4 could be an order of magnitude faster than 10.3. apple couldn't pass up on the marketing spin they'd get from that. secondly, it seems rather precarious to update your OS with a new compiler so soon after their official release.
 
Originally posted by jettredmont
However, is another application, like, say, Mail, tells Safari to open a link (ie, you click on a link in Mail), it always opens in a new window, never in a tab off the current window.

OK, that's weird, because in Safari 1.1.1, when I set it to open links from other applications "in the current window", they always come up in a new tab (Just verified this with Mail links). I always thought that was the default behavior...

[edit: It seems that this is a leftover setting from when I had SAFT installed under 10.2]
 
Networking! :) Maybe I won't get panics while trying to use our home network. I can connect... but shortly after... bamn... KP!
 
Safari is SLOWWWWW

I use to love Safari because it was much faster than explorer and just generally cooler. Then I found Mozilla Firebird and it blows Safari out of the water as far as speed. Much better Java support especially on Yahoo games. and it kills Safari on Banking sites for speed. My Safari just hangs and goes like a slug on Bank of America site. I will try out the new version but the last 3 revisions have done nothing to fix it. Apple call Mozilla and get it right!!!
 
Safari

2 reasons I'm still hanging on to Explorer and not using Safari:

1. Compatibility with my bank's website (can't access the site using Safari)
2. Mousing-over links in Safari does not give you a way to see where you will be taken (i.e., in Explorer, when you mouse-over a link, the URL or mailto link is displayed at the bottom of the window so you know if you're going to leave the site you're viewing or just go to another section).

...or am I missing something in Safari that solves those issues?
 
Originally posted by dashiel
i wouldn't think so. i could be wrong, but there are two issues here that lead me to believe this won't happen. first OS X updates (major not minor) have the very marketable fact that they increase in performance. if ibm's new compilers even deliver half of what has been claimed, OS 10.4 could be an order of magnitude faster than 10.3. apple couldn't pass up on the marketing spin they'd get from that. secondly, it seems rather precarious to update your OS with a new compiler so soon after their official release.

I agree with your first point, although we do not know what type of speed differences we will get with the new compilers and obj-c.

The second point though is not truly correct. IBM simply rewrote their compilers that they have been developing for PPC for years to support some Apple libraries and some changes (aka Altivec) to the chip. I'm sure Apple would use them if they thought it was a good idea, but chances are they won't because they have so much invested in GCC.
 
Re: Safari

Originally posted by Doozer
2 reasons I'm still hanging on to Explorer and not using Safari:

1. Compatibility with my bank's website (can't access the site using Safari)
2. Mousing-over links in Safari does not give you a way to see where you will be taken (i.e., in Explorer, when you mouse-over a link, the URL or mailto link is displayed at the bottom of the window so you know if you're going to leave the site you're viewing or just go to another section).

...or am I missing something in Safari that solves those issues?

can't help you with the first one. contact your bank and complain. (yeah, i know.)

but regarding the second: choose View > Show Status Bar. then you can see the URL of links before you click on them.

-p
 
Re: Safari is SLOWWWWW

Originally posted by arrowoods
I use to love Safari because it was much faster than explorer and just generally cooler. Then I found Mozilla Firebird and it blows Safari out of the water as far as speed. Much better Java support especially on Yahoo games. and it kills Safari on Banking sites for speed. My Safari just hangs and goes like a slug on Bank of America site. I will try out the new version but the last 3 revisions have done nothing to fix it. Apple call Mozilla and get it right!!!

3 revisions?

I only remember two except for that security update.

Safari only crashes on me or freezes is during some Java events..
Never had a slow down or memory issue.

But I do welcome all updates.

If you want to read up on the details Safari updates go here:
http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/hyatt/index.html
 
Re: Safari

Originally posted by Doozer
2. Mousing-over links in Safari does not give you a way to see where you will be taken (i.e., in Explorer, when you mouse-over a link, the URL or mailto link is displayed at the bottom of the window so you know if you're going to leave the site you're viewing or just go to another section).

...or am I missing something in Safari that solves those issues?

Go to View, click Status Bar, and Voila!


oh, and to someone upset about home/end keys on a laptop, use Command+Up Arrow or Down Arrow. Or maybe just program the function keys to do the same thing.
 
Originally posted by dwsolberg
I'm most excited about the network browsing. Hopefully, they change it back to the way it was in 10.2.x.

(In 10.3.x you need to browse through the Finder to load a server. Then you CAN'T disconnect easily except by shutting off the computer. That's bad for us 'book users. The only current way around this is knowing the direct IP address of the server.)

This isn't true. You can eject any Server just as you would a disk image. When you are going to change networks or just don't want it to be connected anymore, drag the machine name to the trash.
 
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